Comparison of Divisions: Opposition Day — [9th Allotted Day] — Business Rates and the Recession — 25 Mar 2009 at 18:52 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Opposition Day — [9th Allotted Day] — Business Rates and the Recession - 25 Mar 2009 at 18:52 - Division No. 90

I beg to move,

That this House notes with concern that the effect of the five per cent. rise in business rates and the end of transitional rate relief will mean soaring bills at a time of deflation and recession; notes the poor take-up of small business rate relief and calls for entitlement to be made automatic in England, as it is in Wales; believes the complex and shrinking Local Authority Business Growth Incentive Scheme should be replaced with genuine incentives for local authorities to promote business growth; further calls for local authorities to have the power to apply local business rate discounts; expresses concern about the effect of the 2010 rates re-valuation on retail premises and urges a review of the re-valuation plans; cautions that local firms will suffer as a result of the Government's business rate rises on empty property, new supplementary rates being imposed with no business say, and retrospective increases in rates on business by ports; and asserts that the Government's policies on business rates are harming local firms during the recession.

I beg to move an amendment, to leave out from "House" to the end of the Question and add:

"notes that the Government has recognised the problems that many businesses face and is committed to do all it can to help them through these testing times; recognises the action the Government has taken to give targeted support to businesses including a £20 billion working capital scheme, an aim to pay Government suppliers within 10 days, a cut in the main rate of value added tax to 15 per cent., a deferral in the increase in the small companies' rate of corporation tax, free business health checks, more than £100 million towards debt advice, the HM Revenue and Customs Time to Pay scheme benefiting 93,000 firms by deferring £1.6 billion in tax, and extension of Empty Property Relief; believes the Government's commitment to the annual Retail Price Index cap means that there has been no real terms increase in business rates since 1990; welcomes the Small Business Rate Relief scheme benefiting 392,000 businesses by £260 million in 2007-08; recognises that funding of almost £1 billion since 2005-06 has been provided through the Local Authority Business Growth Incentive scheme; further supports fairness in the system that ensures that properties are revalued every five years with transitional relief to phase in significant increases in bills from revaluation; and acknowledges help provided for businesses, including in ports, receiving unexpected and significant backdated rates bills by introducing an unprecedented eight years to pay, as part of a package of measures that ensures through the rates system there is certainly, fairness and appropriate relief for businesses.".

Question put accordingly (Standing Order No. 31(2)), That the original words stand part of the Question.

The House divided: Ayes 220, Noes 297.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)aye absent
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)aye absent
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)aye absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)aye absent
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)aye absent
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenConaye absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConaye absent
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)aye absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)aye absent
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)aye absent
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)aye absent
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)aye absent
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)aye absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)aye absent
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)aye absent
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)aye absent
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)aye absent
Robert WalterNorth DorsetConaye absent
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)aye absent
Michael AncramDevizesCon (front bench)absent aye
John BaronBillericayCon (front bench)absent aye
Crispin BluntReigateCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestCon (front bench)absent aye
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark FrancoisRayleighCon (front bench)absent aye
Jeremy HuntSouth West SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
Daniel KawczynskiShrewsbury and AtchamCon (front bench)absent aye
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Brooks NewmarkBraintreeCon (front bench)absent aye
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark PritchardThe WrekinCon (front bench)absent aye
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark SimmondsBoston and SkegnessCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard SpringWest SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Ed VaizeyWantageCon (front bench)absent aye
David SimpsonUpper BannDUP (front bench)aye absent
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentno aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabno aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabno aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)no aye
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)no aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)no aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLabno aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)no aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)no aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)no aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabno aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabno aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabno aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)no absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)no absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)no absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabno absent
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLabno absent
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLabno absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)no absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLab (minister)no absent
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)no absent
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabno absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)no absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)no absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)no absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabno absent
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)no absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)no absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)no absent
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)no absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabno absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLabno absent
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
Martin LintonBatterseaLabno absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabno absent
Anne McGuireStirlingLabno absent
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabno absent
Alan MealeMansfieldLabno absent
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)no absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)no absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)no absent
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)no absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)no absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)no absent
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLabno absent
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)no absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)no absent
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLabno absent
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)no absent
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLabno absent
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLab (minister)no absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)no absent
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)no absent
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)no absent
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabno absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)no absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)absent aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLababsent aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLababsent aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLababsent aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)absent aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLababsent aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)absent aye
Douglas AlexanderPaisley and Renfrewshire SouthLab (minister)absent no
Edward BallsNormantonLab (minister)absent no
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Liam ByrneBirmingham, Hodge HillLab (minister)absent no
Ben ChapmanWirral SouthLab (minister)absent no
Ann ClwydCynon ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
Andrew DismoreHendonLab (minister)absent no
Jim DowdLewisham WestLab (minister)absent no
Clive EffordElthamLababsent no
Barry GardinerBrent NorthLababsent no
Nigel GriffithsEdinburgh SouthLab (minister)absent no
Harriet HarmanCamberwell and PeckhamLab (minister)absent no
Mark HendrickPrestonLab (minister)absent no
George HowarthKnowsley North and Sefton EastLab (minister)absent no
Kim HowellsPontypriddLababsent no
John HuttonBarrow and FurnessLab (minister)absent no
Stephen LadymanSouth ThanetLababsent no
Eric MartlewCarlisleLab (minister)absent no
Rosemary McKennaCumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch EastLab (minister)absent no
Alan MilburnDarlingtonLababsent no
Meg MunnSheffield, HeeleyLababsent no
Jim MurphyEast RenfrewshireLab (minister)absent no
Paul MurphyTorfaenLab (minister)absent no
Doug NaysmithBristol North WestLab (minister)absent no
Albert OwenYnys MônLab (minister)absent no
James PurnellStalybridge and HydeLab (minister)absent no
Geoffrey RobinsonCoventry North WestLababsent no
Alison SeabeckPlymouth, DevonportLababsent no
Dari TaylorStockton SouthLab (minister)absent no
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)aye absent
Charles KennedyRoss, Skye and LochaberLDemaye absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)aye absent
Danny AlexanderInverness, Nairn, Badenoch and StrathspeyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Norman BakerLewesLDem (front bench)absent aye
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDem (front bench)absent aye
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)absent aye
David HowarthCambridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Dan RogersonNorth CornwallLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)absent aye
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)absent aye
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)absent aye
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)absent aye
Mark DurkanFoyleSDLP (front bench)no absent
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
John MasonGlasgow EastSNP (front bench)absent aye
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)absent aye
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 410 voted the same way, with 21 voting in opposite ways. There were 41 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 174 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
410
(410 + 21 + 0.2x174)
=
410
465.8
= 0.880 = 88.0 %.


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