Comparison of Divisions: Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat — 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 with Division No. 96 on 25 Feb 2008 at 19:23

(Swap the two divisions around).

Vote (a) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

Vote (b) : Lisbon Treaty — Approves of the government's policy towards the Lisbon Treaty with regards to international development - 25 Feb 2008 at 19:23 - Division No. 96

The majority Aye voters successfully approved[1] the Government's policy towards the Treaty of Lisbon in respect of the Treaty's provisions concerning international development.

This was thus a further step along the road of ratifying the Lisbon Treaty and promoting closer European integration.

The main aims of the Lisbon Treaty were to[2]:

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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Gerald HowarthAldershotCon (front bench)aye both
Gregory BarkerBexhill and BattleCon (front bench)aye absent
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestCon (front bench)aye absent
David BurrowesEnfield, SouthgateCon (front bench)aye absent
Alistair BurtNorth East BedfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)aye absent
Christopher ChopeChristchurchCon (front bench)aye absent
Greg ClarkTunbridge WellsCon (front bench)aye absent
Geoffrey Clifton-BrownCotswoldCon (front bench)aye absent
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)aye absent
Nadine DorriesMid BedfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Philip DunneLudlowCon (front bench)aye absent
Tobias EllwoodBournemouth EastCon (front bench)aye absent
Mark FieldCities of London and WestminsterCon (front bench)aye absent
Dame Cheryl GillanChesham and AmershamCon (front bench)aye absent
Justine GreeningPutneyCon (front bench)aye absent
John GummerSuffolk CoastalConaye absent
Nick HerbertArundel and South DownsCon (front bench)aye absent
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamCon (front bench)aye absent
Philip HolloboneKetteringCon (front bench)aye absent
John HowellHenleyCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew LansleySouth CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Oliver LetwinWest DorsetCon (front bench)aye absent
Peter LilleyHitchin and HarpendenConaye absent
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstCon (front bench)aye absent
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)aye absent
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)aye absent
Ian TaylorEsher and WaltonConaye absent
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichCon (front bench)aye absent
David TredinnickBosworthConaye absent
Andrew TurnerIsle of WightCon (front bench)aye absent
Peter ViggersGosportCon (front bench)aye absent
Theresa VilliersChipping BarnetCon (front bench)aye absent
David WillettsHavantCon (front bench)aye absent
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)aye absent
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)absent no
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)absent no
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)absent no
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)absent no
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenConabsent no
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConabsent no
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)absent no
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)absent no
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)absent no
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)absent no
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)absent no
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)absent no
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)absent no
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)absent no
Francis MaudeHorshamCon (front bench)absent no
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent no
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)absent no
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)absent no
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)absent no
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)absent no
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)absent no
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)aye absent
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)aye absent
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)aye absent
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPaye absent
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)aye absent
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentaye aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)aye absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)aye absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentaye absent
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)aye aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)aye aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabaye aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)aye aye
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabaye aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)aye aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)aye aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLabaye aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabaye aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)aye aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)aye aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)aye aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)aye aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabaye aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)aye aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabaye absent
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)aye absent
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)aye absent
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabaye absent
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabaye absent
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabaye absent
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabaye absent
Bob AinsworthCoventry North EastLab (minister)no absent
Hilary ArmstrongNorth West DurhamLabno absent
Vera BairdRedcarLab (minister)no absent
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLabno absent
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)no absent
Tom ClarkeCoatbridge, Chryston and BellshillLab (minister)no absent
Mary CreaghWakefieldLab (minister)no absent
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)no absent
Ian DavidsonGlasgow South WestLab (minister)no absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)no absent
Andrew DismoreHendonLab (minister)no absent
Frank DobsonHolborn and St PancrasLabno absent
David DrewStroudLab (minister)no absent
Natascha EngelNorth East DerbyshireLabno absent
Caroline FlintDon ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Paul GogginsWythenshawe and Sale EastLab (minister)no absent
David HamiltonMidlothianLab (minister)no absent
George HowarthKnowsley North and Sefton EastLab (minister)no absent
John HuttonBarrow and FurnessLab (minister)no absent
Ruth KellyBolton WestLabno absent
Shahid MalikDewsburyLab (minister)no absent
Sarah McCarthy-FryPortsmouth NorthLab (minister)no absent
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLabno absent
Alun MichaelCardiff South and PenarthLab (minister)no absent
Chris MullinSunderland SouthLab (minister)no absent
Meg MunnSheffield, HeeleyLabno absent
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLab (minister)no absent
John SmithVale of GlamorganLab (minister)no absent
Helen SouthworthWarrington SouthLab (minister)no absent
Howard StoateDartfordLab (minister)no absent
Graham StringerManchester, BlackleyLab (minister)no absent
Mark TamiAlyn and DeesideLab (minister)no absent
Emily ThornberryIslington South and FinsburyLab (minister)no absent
Kitty UssherBurnleyLab (minister)no absent
Claire WardWatfordLab (minister)tellno absent
Tony WrightCannock ChaseLab (minister)no absent
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)both aye
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)absent aye
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)absent aye
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)absent aye
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)absent aye
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)absent aye
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)absent aye
Colin BurgonElmetLababsent aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLababsent aye
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)absent aye
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)absent aye
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)absent aye
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLab (minister)absent aye
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)absent aye
Jon CruddasDagenhamLababsent aye
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLababsent aye
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)absent aye
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)absent aye
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)absent aye
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)absent aye
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)absent aye
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)absent aye
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLababsent aye
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)absent aye
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)absent aye
Margaret HodgeBarkingLababsent aye
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)absent aye
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)absent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)absent aye
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)absent aye
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)absent aye
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)absent aye
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLababsent aye
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLababsent aye
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)absent aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLababsent aye
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLababsent aye
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)absent aye
David MarshallGlasgow EastLababsent aye
Anne McGuireStirlingLababsent aye
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLababsent aye
Alan MealeMansfieldLababsent aye
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)absent aye
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)absent aye
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)absent aye
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)absent aye
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)absent aye
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)absent aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)absent aye
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLababsent aye
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)absent aye
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)absent aye
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLababsent aye
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)absent aye
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)absent aye
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLababsent aye
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLab (minister)absent aye
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)absent aye
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)absent aye
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)absent aye
Betty WilliamsConwyLababsent aye
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)absent aye
Danny AlexanderInverness, Nairn, Badenoch and StrathspeyLDem (front bench)aye aye
John BarrettEdinburgh WestLDem (front bench)aye aye
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Annette BrookeMid Dorset and North PooleLDem (front bench)aye aye
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)aye aye
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)aye aye
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)aye aye
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDem (front bench)aye aye
Don FosterBathLDem (front bench)aye aye
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDem (front bench)aye aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)aye aye
David HeathSomerton and FromeLDem (front bench)aye aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)aye aye
David HowarthCambridgeLDem (front bench)aye aye
Simon HughesNorth Southwark and BermondseyLDem (front bench)aye aye
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)aye aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)aye aye
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)aye aye
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)aye aye
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)aye aye
John PughSouthportLDem (front bench)aye aye
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDem (front bench)aye aye
Dan RogersonNorth CornwallLDem (front bench)tellaye aye
Bob RussellColchesterLDem (front bench)aye aye
Adrian SandersTorbayLDem (front bench)aye aye
Andrew StunellHazel GroveLDem (front bench)aye aye
Sarah TeatherBrent EastLDem (front bench)aye aye
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)aye aye
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)aye aye
Stephen WilliamsBristol WestLDem (front bench)aye aye
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDem (front bench)aye aye
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDem (front bench)aye aye
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)aye aye
Norman BakerLewesLDem (front bench)aye absent
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)aye absent
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)aye absent
Lorely BurtSolihullLDem (front bench)aye absent
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)aye absent
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)aye absent
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)aye absent
John HemmingBirmingham, YardleyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDem (front bench)aye absent
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDemaye absent
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)aye absent
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)aye absent
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)tellaye absent
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)aye absent
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemaye absent
Steve WebbNorthavonLDem (front bench)aye absent
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)absent aye
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)absent aye
Charles KennedyRoss, Skye and LochaberLDemabsent aye
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)absent aye
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)absent aye
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)aye aye
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)aye aye
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)aye absent
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)aye absent
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)aye aye
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)aye aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)aye aye
John MasonGlasgow EastSNP (front bench)aye absent
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)absent aye
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)aye absent

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 61 voted the same way, with 346 voting in opposite ways. There were 41 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 198 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
346
(346 + 61 + 0.2x198)
=
346
446.6
= 0.775 = 77.5 %.


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