Comparison of Divisions: Surface Water and Highway Drainage Charges (Exemption) Bill — Clause 7 — Charge and main rates for financial year 2010 — 12 May 2009 at 18:00 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Surface Water and Highway Drainage Charges (Exemption) Bill — Clause 7 — Charge and main rates for financial year 2010 - 12 May 2009 at 18:00 - Division No. 117

I beg to move amendment 1, page 3, line 16, leave out '28%' and insert '25%'.

After that rather shaky start, Sir Alan, I am sure that the rest of our Committee proceedings will move more smoothly.

The Committee having divided: Ayes 200, Noes 302.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by name

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLababsent aye
Nick AingerCarmarthen West and South PembrokeshireLab (minister)absent no
Peter AinsworthEast SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
Graham AllenNottingham NorthLababsent no
Michael AncramDevizesCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter AtkinsonHexhamCon (front bench)absent aye
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)no absent
Richard BaconSouth NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
Vera BairdRedcarLab (minister)absent no
Norman BakerLewesLDem (front bench)absent aye
John BaronBillericayCon (front bench)absent aye
Kevin BarronRother ValleyLab (minister)absent no
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)no absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)no absent
Richard BenyonNewburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul BeresfordMole ValleyCon (front bench)absent aye
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)aye absent
Hazel BlearsSalfordLab (minister)absent no
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLababsent no
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)aye absent
Annette BrookeMid Dorset and North PooleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)no absent
Colin BurgonElmetLabno absent
David BurrowesEnfield, SouthgateCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabno absent
Liam ByrneBirmingham, Hodge HillLab (minister)absent no
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLabno absent
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLabno absent
Douglas CarswellHarwichCon (front bench)absent aye
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)no absent
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
David ChaytorBury NorthLab (minister)absent no
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)aye absent
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)aye absent
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabno aye
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen CrabbPreseli PembrokeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David CrausbyBolton North EastLab (minister)absent no
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabno absent
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLabno absent
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
David DaviesMonmouthCon (front bench)absent aye
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenConaye absent
Jim DevineLivingstonLab (minister)absent no
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabno absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConaye absent
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)no aye
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDem (front bench)absent aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno aye
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)no absent
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDem (front bench)absent aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)no absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabno absent
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)aye absent
John GummerSuffolk CoastalConabsent aye
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)no absent
Stephen HammondWimbledonCon (front bench)absent aye
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)aye absent
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)absent aye
John HayesSouth Holland and The DeepingsCon (front bench)absent aye
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)aye absent
John HemmingBirmingham, YardleyLDem (front bench)absent aye
John HeppellNottingham EastLab (minister)absent no
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye
Patricia HewittLeicester WestLababsent no
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)no absent
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)no aye
Adam HollowayGraveshamCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)absent aye
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)no absent
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)absent aye
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)aye absent
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)aye absent
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConabsent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Nick HurdRuislip - NorthwoodCon (front bench)absent aye
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)no absent
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)aye absent
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabno aye
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
David JonesClwyd WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
Ann KeenBrentford and IsleworthLab (minister)absent no
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)aye absent
Charles KennedyRoss, Skye and LochaberLDemaye absent
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabno absent
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)aye absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLabno absent
Eleanor LaingEpping ForestCon (front bench)absent aye
Jacqui LaitBeckenhamConabsent aye
Mark LancasterNorth East Milton KeynesCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark LazarowiczEdinburgh North and LeithLab (minister)absent no
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Edward LeighGainsboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
Martin LintonBatterseaLabno absent
Tim LoughtonEast Worthing and ShorehamCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)no aye
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)aye absent
Fiona MactaggartSloughLab (minister)absent no
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)aye absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)aye absent
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLabno aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabno aye
Michael MatesEast HampshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Theresa MayMaidenheadCon (front bench)absent aye
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabno absent
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabno aye
Jim McGovernDundee WestLab (minister)absent no
Anne McGuireStirlingLabno absent
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)no aye
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabno absent
Alan MealeMansfieldLabno absent
Anne MiltonGuildfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)no absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)no absent
Madeleine MoonBridgendLab (minister)absent no
Margaret MoranLuton SouthLab (minister)absent no
Jessica MordenNewport EastLab (minister)absent no
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)no absent
Mark OatenWinchesterLDem (front bench)aye absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)no absent
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)absent aye
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)no absent
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)no aye
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)absent aye
Mark PriskHertford and StortfordCon (front bench)absent aye
John PughSouthportLDem (front bench)absent aye
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)no absent
John RandallUxbridgeCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)no aye
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)no absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)no aye
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)no absent
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)aye absent
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)absent aye
Joan RyanEnfield NorthLababsent no
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)no absent
Grant ShappsWelwyn HatfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Barry SheermanHuddersfieldLab (minister)absent no
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLababsent aye
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)no absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
John SmithVale of GlamorganLab (minister)absent no
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLabno absent
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)aye absent
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLab (minister)no absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)no absent
Graham StuartBeverley and HoldernessCon (front bench)absent aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
Ian TaylorEsher and WaltonConabsent aye
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)no absent
Paul TruswellPudseyLababsent aye
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)no absent
Andrew TyrieChichesterCon (front bench)absent aye
Ed VaizeyWantageCon (front bench)absent aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)no aye
Peter ViggersGosportCon (front bench)absent aye
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabno absent
Charles WalkerBroxbourneCon (front bench)absent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Tom WatsonWest Bromwich EastLab (minister)absent no
Malcolm WicksCroydon NorthLababsent no
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDem (front bench)absent aye
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDem (front bench)absent aye
Ann WintertonCongletonCon (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas WintertonMacclesfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabno aye
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)no absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 395 voted the same way, with 23 voting in opposite ways. There were 43 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 185 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
395
(395 + 23 + 0.2x185)
=
395
455
= 0.868 = 86.8 %.


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