Comparison of Divisions: Bill Presented — Clause 16 — Rates and rebates from September 2009 — 13 May 2009 at 19:00 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Bill Presented — Clause 16 — Rates and rebates from September 2009 - 13 May 2009 at 19:00 - Division No. 128

Question accordingly negatived.

Question put, That the clause stand part of the Bill.

The Committee divided: Ayes 299, Noes 48.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Adam AfriyieWindsorCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter AinsworthEast SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
Sir David AmessSouthend WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael AncramDevizesCon (front bench)absent aye
James ArbuthnotNorth East HampshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter AtkinsonHexhamCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard BaconSouth NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Tony BaldryBanburyConabsent aye
Gregory BarkerBexhill and BattleCon (front bench)absent aye
John BaronBillericayCon (front bench)absent aye
Henry BellinghamNorth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard BenyonNewburyCon (front bench)absent aye
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
Paul BeresfordMole ValleyCon (front bench)absent aye
Crispin BluntReigateCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter BoneWellingboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Graham BradyAltrincham and Sale WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Julian BrazierCanterburyCon (front bench)absent aye
James BrokenshireHornchurchCon (front bench)absent aye
Angela BrowningTiverton and HonitonCon (front bench)absent aye
Simon BurnsWest ChelmsfordCon (front bench)absent aye
David BurrowesEnfield, SouthgateCon (front bench)absent aye
Alistair BurtNorth East BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Douglas CarswellHarwichCon (front bench)absent aye
Bill CashStoneCon (front bench)absent aye
Christopher ChopeChristchurchCon (front bench)absent aye
Greg ClarkTunbridge WellsCon (front bench)absent aye
Geoffrey Clifton-BrownCotswoldCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Geoffrey CoxTorridge and West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen CrabbPreseli PembrokeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)absent aye
David DaviesMonmouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Philip DaviesShipleyConabsent aye
Jonathan DjanoglyHuntingdonCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen DorrellCharnwoodCon (front bench)absent aye
Nadine DorriesMid BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
James DuddridgeRochford and Southend EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)absent aye
Iain Duncan SmithChingford and Woodford GreenConabsent aye
Philip DunneLudlowCon (front bench)absent aye
Tobias EllwoodBournemouth EastCon (front bench)absent aye
David EvennettBexleyheath and CrayfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael FabricantLichfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael FallonSevenoaksCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark FieldCities of London and WestminsterCon (front bench)absent aye
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark FrancoisRayleighCon (front bench)absent aye
Christopher FraserSouth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward GarnierHarboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
David GaukeSouth West HertfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick GibbBognor Regis and LittlehamptonCon (front bench)absent aye
Dame Cheryl GillanChesham and AmershamCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul GoodmanWycombeCon (front bench)absent aye
Robert GoodwillScarborough and WhitbyCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael GoveSurrey HeathCon (front bench)absent aye
Chris GraylingEpsom and EwellCon (front bench)absent aye
Damian GreenAshfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Justine GreeningPutneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Dominic GrieveBeaconsfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
John GummerSuffolk CoastalConabsent aye
William HagueRichmond (Yorks)Con (front bench)absent aye
Philip HammondRunnymede and WeybridgeCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen HammondWimbledonCon (front bench)absent aye
Greg HandsHammersmith and FulhamCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark HarperForest of DeanCon (front bench)absent aye
John HayesSouth Holland and The DeepingsCon (front bench)absent aye
Charles HendryWealdenCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick HerbertArundel and South DownsCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark HobanFarehamCon (front bench)absent aye
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamCon (front bench)absent aye
Philip HolloboneKetteringCon (front bench)absent aye
Adam HollowayGraveshamCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConabsent aye
Gerald HowarthAldershotCon (front bench)absent aye
John HowellHenleyCon (front bench)absent aye
Jeremy HuntSouth West SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick HurdRuislip - NorthwoodCon (front bench)absent aye
Stewart JacksonPeterboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Bernard JenkinNorth EssexCon (front bench)absent aye
David JonesClwyd WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Daniel KawczynskiShrewsbury and AtchamCon (front bench)absent aye
Robert KeySalisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Greg KnightEast YorkshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Eleanor LaingEpping ForestCon (front bench)absent aye
Jacqui LaitBeckenhamConabsent aye
Mark LancasterNorth East Milton KeynesCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew LansleySouth CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward LeighGainsboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Oliver LetwinWest DorsetCon (front bench)absent aye
Julian LewisNew Forest EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian Liddell-GraingerBridgwaterCon (front bench)absent aye
David LidingtonAylesburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter LilleyHitchin and HarpendenConabsent aye
Tim LoughtonEast Worthing and ShorehamCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKayBracknellCon (front bench)absent aye
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne MainSt AlbansCon (front bench)absent aye
Theresa MayMaidenheadCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne McIntoshVale of YorkCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick McLoughlinWest DerbyshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick MercerNewarkCon (front bench)absent aye
Maria MillerBasingstokeCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne MiltonGuildfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MitchellSutton ColdfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MurrisonWestburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstCon (front bench)absent aye
Brooks NewmarkBraintreeCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen O'BrienEddisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
James PaiceSouth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Mike PenningHemel HempsteadCon (front bench)absent aye
John PenroseWeston-Super-MareCon (front bench)absent aye
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark PriskHertford and StortfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark PritchardThe WrekinCon (front bench)absent aye
John RandallUxbridgeCon (front bench)absent aye
John RedwoodWokinghamConabsent aye
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaConabsent aye
Andrew RobathanBlabyCon (front bench)absent aye
Hugh RobertsonFaversham and Mid KentCon (front bench)absent aye
Laurence RobertsonTewkesburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew RosindellRomfordCon (front bench)absent aye
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)absent aye
Lee ScottIlford NorthCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew SelousSouth West BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Grant ShappsWelwyn HatfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard ShepherdAldridge-BrownhillsCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark SimmondsBoston and SkegnessCon (front bench)absent aye
Keith SimpsonMid NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas SoamesMid SussexCon (front bench)absent aye
Caroline SpelmanMeridenCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael SpicerWest WorcestershireCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard SpringWest SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Anthony SteenTotnesCon (front bench)absent aye
Gary StreeterSouth West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Graham StuartBeverley and HoldernessCon (front bench)absent aye
Desmond SwayneNew Forest WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Hugo SwireEast DevonConabsent aye
Robert SymsPooleCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter TapsellLouth and HorncastleConabsent aye
Ian TaylorEsher and WaltonConabsent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichCon (front bench)absent aye
David TredinnickBosworthConabsent aye
Andrew TurnerIsle of WightCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew TyrieChichesterCon (front bench)absent aye
Ed VaizeyWantageCon (front bench)absent aye
Shailesh VaraNorth West CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter ViggersGosportCon (front bench)absent aye
Theresa VilliersChipping BarnetCon (front bench)absent aye
Charles WalkerBroxbourneCon (front bench)absent aye
Ben WallaceLancaster and WyreCon (front bench)absent aye
Nigel WatersonEastbourneCon (front bench)absent aye
Angela WatkinsonUpminsterCon (front bench)absent aye
John WhittingdaleMaldon and East ChelmsfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdConabsent aye
Bill WigginLeominsterCon (front bench)absent aye
David WillettsHavantCon (front bench)absent aye
Rob WilsonReading EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Ann WintertonCongletonCon (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas WintertonMacclesfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Jeremy WrightRugby and KenilworthCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
George YoungNorth West HampshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentaye aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabaye aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)aye aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)aye aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabaye aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)aye aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)aye aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)aye aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabaye aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)aye aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLabaye aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabaye aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)aye aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)aye aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)aye aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)aye aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabaye aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)aye aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabaye aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)aye both
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)aye absent
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)aye absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Colin BurgonElmetLabaye absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabaye absent
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLabaye absent
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLabaye absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)aye absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabaye absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)aye absent
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)aye absent
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)aye absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabaye absent
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)aye absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)aye absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)aye absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)aye absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)aye absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)aye absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLabaye absent
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Martin LintonBatterseaLabaye absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabaye absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)aye absent
Anne McGuireStirlingLabaye absent
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabaye absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)aye absent
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)aye absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)aye absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)aye absent
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLabaye absent
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)aye absent
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)aye absent
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)aye absent
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLabaye absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)aye absent
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)aye absent
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)aye absent
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabaye absent
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)aye absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLababsent aye
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)absent aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLababsent aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLababsent aye
Graham AllenNottingham NorthLababsent no
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
Hazel BlearsSalfordLab (minister)absent no
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLababsent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
David ChaytorBury NorthLab (minister)absent no
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
Andrew DismoreHendonLab (minister)absent no
John HeppellNottingham EastLab (minister)absent no
Patricia HewittLeicester WestLababsent no
Phil HopeCorbyLab (minister)absent no
John HuttonBarrow and FurnessLab (minister)absent no
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLababsent no
Fiona MactaggartSloughLab (minister)absent no
Jim McGovernDundee WestLab (minister)absent no
Madeleine MoonBridgendLab (minister)absent no
Margaret MoranLuton SouthLab (minister)absent no
Jim MurphyEast RenfrewshireLab (minister)absent no
Joan RyanEnfield NorthLababsent no
Barry SheermanHuddersfieldLab (minister)absent no
Siôn SimonBirmingham, ErdingtonLab (minister)absent no
John SmithVale of GlamorganLab (minister)absent no
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)absent no
Tom WatsonWest Bromwich EastLab (minister)absent no
Malcolm WicksCroydon NorthLababsent no
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)no absent
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)no absent
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)no absent
Charles KennedyRoss, Skye and LochaberLDemno absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Norman BakerLewesLDem (front bench)absent aye
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)absent aye
Annette BrookeMid Dorset and North PooleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)absent aye
David HowarthCambridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Simon HughesNorth Southwark and BermondseyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDemabsent aye
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)absent aye
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemabsent aye
Sarah TeatherBrent EastLDem (front bench)absent aye
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDem (front bench)absent aye
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDem (front bench)absent aye
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)absent aye
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)no absent
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)no absent
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 24 voted the same way, with 263 voting in opposite ways. There were 68 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 291 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
263
(263 + 24 + 0.2x291)
=
263
345.2
= 0.762 = 76.2 %.


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