Comparison of Divisions: Commission for the Compact — Policing and Crime Bill (Programme) (No. 2) — 19 May 2009 at 16:19 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Commission for the Compact — Policing and Crime Bill (Programme) (No. 2) - 19 May 2009 at 16:19 - Division No. 133

I beg to move,

That the Order of 19 January (Policing and Crime Bill (Programme)) be varied as follows:

Question put.

The House divided: Ayes 278, Noes 212.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)no absent
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)no absent
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)no absent
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenConno absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConno absent
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)no absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)no absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)no absent
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)no absent
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)no absent
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)no absent
Francis MaudeHorshamCon (front bench)no absent
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no absent
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)no absent
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)no absent
Sir David AmessSouthend WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Tony BaldryBanburyConabsent aye
John BaronBillericayCon (front bench)absent aye
Graham BradyAltrincham and Sale WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Angela BrowningTiverton and HonitonCon (front bench)absent aye
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Christopher ChopeChristchurchCon (front bench)absent aye
James DuddridgeRochford and Southend EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)absent aye
Tobias EllwoodBournemouth EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael FallonSevenoaksCon (front bench)absent aye
Philip HolloboneKetteringCon (front bench)absent aye
Adam HollowayGraveshamCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConabsent aye
Gerald HowarthAldershotCon (front bench)absent aye
Jeremy HuntSouth West SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
Stewart JacksonPeterboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Eleanor LaingEpping ForestCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew LansleySouth CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward LeighGainsboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Oliver LetwinWest DorsetCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian Liddell-GraingerBridgwaterCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim LoughtonEast Worthing and ShorehamCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKayBracknellCon (front bench)absent aye
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstCon (front bench)absent aye
Grant ShappsWelwyn HatfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Caroline SpelmanMeridenCon (front bench)absent aye
David TredinnickBosworthConabsent aye
Andrew TyrieChichesterCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter ViggersGosportCon (front bench)absent aye
Nigel WatersonEastbourneCon (front bench)absent aye
Angela WatkinsonUpminsterCon (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas WintertonMacclesfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)aye aye
Derek ConwayOld Bexley and Sidcupwhilst Independent (front bench)no absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)both aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Clare ShortBirmingham, Ladywoodwhilst Independent Labourno absent
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabaye aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)aye aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)aye aye
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabaye aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)aye aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)aye aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabaye aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)aye aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLabaye aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)aye aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)aye aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)aye aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)aye aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabaye aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabaye aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabaye aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)aye both
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)aye absent
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)aye absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Colin BurgonElmetLabaye absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabaye absent
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLabaye absent
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLabaye absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)aye absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabaye absent
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabaye absent
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)aye absent
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)aye absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)aye absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)aye absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)aye absent
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabaye absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)aye absent
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)aye absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)aye absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)aye absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabaye absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLabaye absent
Martin LintonBatterseaLabaye absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabaye absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
Anne McGuireStirlingLabaye absent
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabaye absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)aye absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)aye absent
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)aye absent
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLabaye absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)aye absent
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLabaye absent
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)aye absent
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)aye absent
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)aye absent
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLabaye absent
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLab (minister)aye absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)aye absent
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)aye absent
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)aye absent
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabaye absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)aye absent
Gordon PrenticePendleLab (minister)no no
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)absent aye
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)absent aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)absent aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLababsent aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)absent aye
Nick AingerCarmarthen West and South PembrokeshireLab (minister)absent no
David AndersonBlaydonLab (minister)absent no
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
Roger BerryKingswoodLab (minister)absent no
Liz BlackmanErewashLab (minister)absent no
David BorrowSouth RibbleLab (minister)absent no
Kevin BrennanCardiff WestLab (minister)absent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Colin ChallenMorley and RothwellLab (minister)absent no
Ben ChapmanWirral SouthLab (minister)absent no
David ChaytorBury NorthLab (minister)absent no
Michael ConnartyLinlithgow and East FalkirkLab (minister)absent no
Jim CousinsNewcastle upon Tyne CentralLab (minister)absent no
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
Jeff EnnisBarnsley East and MexboroughLababsent no
Barbara FollettStevenageLab (minister)absent no
Paul GogginsWythenshawe and Sale EastLab (minister)absent no
Harriet HarmanCamberwell and PeckhamLab (minister)absent no
John HeppellNottingham EastLab (minister)absent no
Patricia HewittLeicester WestLababsent no
John HuttonBarrow and FurnessLab (minister)absent no
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLababsent no
Sally KeebleNorthampton NorthLab (minister)absent no
Sadiq KhanTootingLab (minister)absent no
Mark LazarowiczEdinburgh North and LeithLab (minister)absent no
Andrew LoveEdmontonLab (minister)absent no
Shahid MalikDewsburyLab (minister)absent no
Eric MartlewCarlisleLab (minister)absent no
Sarah McCarthy-FryPortsmouth NorthLab (minister)absent no
Pat McFaddenWolverhampton South EastLab (minister)absent no
John McFallWest DunbartonshireLab (minister)absent no
Margaret MoranLuton SouthLab (minister)absent no
Jessica MordenNewport EastLab (minister)absent no
Elliot MorleyScunthorpeLababsent no
George MudieLeeds EastLab (minister)absent no
Mike O'BrienNorth WarwickshireLab (minister)absent no
Jonathan R ShawChatham and AylesfordLab (minister)absent no
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLab (minister)absent no
John SmithVale of GlamorganLab (minister)absent no
Ian StewartEcclesLab (minister)absent no
Gerry SutcliffeBradford SouthLab (minister)absent no
Dari TaylorStockton SouthLab (minister)absent no
Gareth ThomasHarrow WestLab (minister)absent no
Don TouhigIslwynLab (minister)absent no
Michael WillsNorth SwindonLab (minister)absent no
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)no absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)no absent
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)no absent
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)no absent
Mark OatenWinchesterLDem (front bench)no absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)no absent
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Danny AlexanderInverness, Nairn, Badenoch and StrathspeyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Norman BakerLewesLDem (front bench)absent aye
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)absent aye
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemabsent aye
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDem (front bench)absent aye
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)no absent
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)no absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNP (front bench)absent aye
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 22 voted the same way, with 383 voting in opposite ways. There were 45 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 196 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
383
(383 + 22 + 0.2x196)
=
383
444.2
= 0.862 = 86.2 %.


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