Comparison of Divisions: Natural Environment and Rural Communities Bill (Programme) — 6 Jun 2005 at 21:59 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49
(Swap the two divisions around).
The issue in this division was whether to approve a programme motion for the Natural Environment and Rural Communities Bill, which required that the Standing Committee proceedings finish by 5th July. Those voting Aye agreed to this limit.
The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]
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This House
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regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
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recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
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notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
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believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
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is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
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further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
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calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.
As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]
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This House
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recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
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notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
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further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
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acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
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further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
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supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
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further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
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further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
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further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.
... was never voted upon.
Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]
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MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b).
You can also see just opposite votes
between these two divisions,
or simply all the votes.
Sort by: Name | Constituency | Party | Vote (a) | Vote (b)
Name | Constituency | Party | Vote (a) | Vote (b) |
John Reid | Airdrie and Shotts | Lab (minister) | aye |
absent |
Judy Mallaber | Amber Valley | Lab | aye |
absent |
Michael Weir | Angus | SNP (front bench) | absent |
aye |
Alan Reid | Argyll and Bute | LDem (front bench) | absent |
tellaye |
Geoff Hoon | Ashfield | Lab (minister) | aye |
absent |
David Heyes | Ashton-under-Lyne | Lab (minister) | aye |
absent |
David Lidington | Aylesbury | Con (front bench) | absent |
aye |
Sandra Osborne | Ayr, Carrick and Cumnock | Lab (minister) | aye |
absent |
Margaret Hodge | Barking | Lab (minister) | aye |
absent |
Eric Illsley | Barnsley Central | Lab | aye |
absent |
Michael Clapham | Barnsley West and Penistone | Lab | aye |
absent |
Angela Smith | Basildon | Lab (minister) | absent |
no |
John Mann | Bassetlaw | Lab (minister) | aye |
absent |
Don Foster | Bath | LDem (front bench) | absent |
aye |
Mike Wood | Batley and Spen | Lab | aye |
aye |
Martin Linton | Battersea | Lab | aye |
absent |
Patrick Hall | Bedford | Lab | aye |
absent |
Peter Robinson | Belfast East | DUP | absent |
aye |
Nigel Dodds | Belfast North | DUP (front bench) | absent |
aye |
Alasdair McDonnell | Belfast South | SDLP | absent |
aye |
Alan Beith | Berwick-upon-Tweed | LDem (front bench) | aye |
aye |
Michael Moore | Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk | LDem (front bench) | aye |
aye |
Gregory Barker | Bexhill and Battle | Con (front bench) | absent |
aye |
David Evennett | Bexleyheath and Crayford | Con (front bench) | absent |
aye |
Frank Field | Birkenhead | Lab (minister) | aye |
absent |
Gisela Stuart | Birmingham, Edgbaston | Lab (minister) | aye |
absent |
Clare Short | Birmingham, Ladywood | whilst Lab | aye |
absent |
Richard Burden | Birmingham, Northfield | Lab (minister) | aye |
absent |
Khalid Mahmood | Birmingham, Perry Barr | Lab | aye |
absent |
Lynne Jones | Birmingham, Selly Oak | Lab | aye |
absent |
Roger Godsiff | Birmingham, Sparkbrook and Small Heath | Lab | aye |
absent |
John Hemming | Birmingham, Yardley | LDem | absent |
aye |
Jack Straw | Blackburn | Lab (minister) | absent |
no |
Joan Humble | Blackpool North and Fleetwood | Lab | aye |
aye |
Gordon Marsden | Blackpool South | Lab | aye |
aye |
Dai Davies | Blaenau Gwent | Independent | absent |
aye |
Ronnie Campbell | Blyth Valley | Lab | aye |
absent |
Ruth Kelly | Bolton West | Lab (minister) | absent |
no |
John Butterfill | Bournemouth West | Con | no |
absent |
Marsha Singh | Bradford West | Lab | aye |
absent |
Roger Williams | Brecon and Radnorshire | LDem (front bench) | aye |
absent |
Sarah Teather | Brent East | LDem (front bench) | aye |
aye |
Ian Cawsey | Brigg and Goole | Lab (minister) | aye |
aye |
Stephen Williams | Bristol West | LDem (front bench) | aye |
aye |
Eric Forth | Bromley and Chislehurst | Con | no |
absent |
Bob Neill | Bromley and Chislehurst | Con | absent |
aye |
Julie Kirkbride | Bromsgrove | Con | no |
absent |
Nick Palmer | Broxtowe | Lab | aye |
aye |
Kitty Ussher | Burnley | Lab | absent |
no |
Ivan Lewis | Bury South | Lab (minister) | aye |
absent |
Hywel Williams | Caernarfon | PC (front bench) | absent |
aye |
John Thurso | Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross | LDem (front bench) | absent |
aye |
David Howarth | Cambridge | LDem (front bench) | aye |
aye |
Tony Wright | Cannock Chase | Lab | absent |
no |
Jennifer Willott | Cardiff Central | LDem | absent |
aye |
Julie Morgan | Cardiff North | Lab | aye |
aye |
Tom Brake | Carshalton and Wallington | LDem (front bench) | absent |
aye |
Bob Spink | Castle Point | whilst Con | no |
absent |
Bob Spink | Castle Point | whilst Independent | absent |
aye |
Brian H Donohoe | Central Ayrshire | Lab (minister) | absent |
no |
Mark Williams | Ceredigion | LDem (front bench) | aye |
aye |
Stephen Dorrell | Charnwood | Con | absent |
aye |
Mark Hunter | Cheadle | LDem (front bench) | absent |
aye |
Martin Horwood | Cheltenham | LDem | aye |
aye |
Dame Cheryl Gillan | Chesham and Amersham | Con (front bench) | absent |
aye |
Paul Holmes | Chesterfield | LDem (front bench) | aye |
aye |
Lindsay Hoyle | Chorley | Lab (minister) | aye |
absent |
Shona McIsaac | Cleethorpes | Lab | aye |
aye |
Martyn Jones | Clwyd South | Lab | aye |
absent |
Bob Russell | Colchester | LDem (front bench) | aye |
aye |
Kali Mountford | Colne Valley | Lab | aye |
absent |
Betty Williams | Conwy | Lab | aye |
absent |
Geoffrey Robinson | Coventry North West | Lab | absent |
no |
Edward Timpson | Crewe and Nantwich | Con | absent |
aye |
Claire Curtis-Thomas | Crosby | Lab | aye |
absent |
Andrew Pelling | Croydon Central | whilst Con | no |
absent |
Andrew Pelling | Croydon Central | whilst Independent | absent |
aye |
Jon Cruddas | Dagenham | Lab (minister) | aye |
absent |
Alan Milburn | Darlington | Lab | absent |
no |
Tim Boswell | Daventry | Con (front bench) | no |
absent |
David Hanson | Delyn | Lab (minister) | absent |
no |
Margaret Beckett | Derby South | Lab (minister) | absent |
no |
Ed Miliband | Doncaster North | Lab | aye |
absent |
Ian Pearson | Dudley South | Lab (minister) | absent |
no |
Tessa Jowell | Dulwich and West Norwood | Lab (minister) | absent |
no |
Stewart Hosie | Dundee East | SNP (front bench) | no |
absent |
Willie Rennie | Dunfermline and West Fife | LDem | absent |
aye |
Steve Pound | Ealing North | Lab (minister) | aye |
aye |
Piara S Khabra | Ealing, Southall | Lab | aye |
absent |
Virendra Sharma | Ealing, Southall | Lab | absent |
no |
Hugo Swire | East Devon | Con (front bench) | absent |
aye |
Jo Swinson | East Dunbartonshire | LDem (front bench) | aye |
absent |
Michael Mates | East Hampshire | Con | no |
absent |
Anne Moffat | East Lothian | Lab | aye |
absent |
Christopher Huhne | Eastleigh | LDem (front bench) | absent |
aye |
John Barrett | Edinburgh West | LDem | aye |
aye |
Eleanor Laing | Epping Forest | Con (front bench) | absent |
aye |
John Austin | Erith and Thamesmead | Lab | aye |
absent |
Ben Bradshaw | Exeter | Lab (minister) | absent |
no |
Julia Goldsworthy | Falmouth and Camborne | LDem (front bench) | absent |
aye |
Hugh Robertson | Faversham and Mid Kent | Con (front bench) | absent |
aye |
Rudi Vis | Finchley and Golders Green | Lab | aye |
absent |
Michael Jack | Fylde | Con | no |
absent |
Mohammad Sarwar | Glasgow Central | Lab | absent |
no |
David Marshall | Glasgow East | Lab | aye |
absent |
John Mason | Glasgow East | SNP | absent |
aye |
John Robertson | Glasgow North West | Lab (minister) | aye |
absent |
John MacDougall | Glenrothes | Lab | aye |
absent |
Lindsay Roy | Glenrothes | Lab | absent |
no |
Malcolm Bruce | Gordon | LDem | aye |
aye |
Martin Caton | Gower | Lab (minister) | aye |
absent |
Quentin Davies | Grantham and Stamford | whilst Con (front bench) | no |
absent |
Quentin Davies | Grantham and Stamford | whilst Lab (front bench) | absent |
no |
Austin Mitchell | Great Grimsby | Lab (minister) | aye |
absent |
Anthony D Wright | Great Yarmouth | Lab | aye |
absent |
Nick Raynsford | Greenwich and Woolwich | Lab | aye |
aye |
Diane Abbott | Hackney North and Stoke Newington | Lab | absent |
aye |
Meg Hillier | Hackney South and Shoreditch | Lab | aye |
absent |
Linda Riordan | Halifax | Lab | aye |
aye |
David Davis | Haltemprice and Howden | Con (front bench) | no |
absent |
Derek Twigg | Halton | Lab (minister) | absent |
no |
Glenda Jackson | Hampstead and Highgate | Lab | aye |
aye |
Bill Rammell | Harlow | Lab (minister) | aye |
absent |
Phil Willis | Harrogate and Knaresborough | LDem | absent |
aye |
Gareth Thomas | Harrow West | Lab (minister) | absent |
no |
John Martin McDonnell | Hayes and Harlington | Lab | aye |
aye |
Andrew Stunell | Hazel Grove | LDem (front bench) | aye |
aye |
John Howell | Henley | Con | absent |
aye |
Boris Johnson | Henley | Con | no |
absent |
James Clappison | Hertsmere | Con (front bench) | no |
absent |
Jim Dobbin | Heywood and Middleton | Lab | aye |
absent |
Peter Lilley | Hitchin and Harpenden | Con | absent |
aye |
Lynne Featherstone | Hornsey and Wood Green | LDem (front bench) | absent |
aye |
Greg Pope | Hyndburn | Lab | aye |
absent |
Mike Gapes | Ilford South | Lab (minister) | aye |
absent |
Danny Alexander | Inverness, Nairn, Badenoch and Strathspey | LDem (front bench) | aye |
aye |
Jeremy Corbyn | Islington North | Lab | aye |
aye |
Edward Davey | Kingston and Surbiton | LDem (front bench) | absent |
aye |
John Prescott | Kingston upon Hull East | Lab (minister) | aye |
absent |
Gordon Brown | Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath | Lab (minister) | absent |
no |
Edward O'Hara | Knowsley South | Lab | aye |
absent |
Jeffrey M. Donaldson | Lagan Valley | DUP (front bench) | absent |
aye |
Jimmy Hood | Lanark and Hamilton East | Lab (minister) | aye |
absent |
Hilary Benn | Leeds Central | Lab (minister) | aye |
absent |
Fabian Hamilton | Leeds North East | Lab (minister) | aye |
absent |
Greg Mulholland | Leeds North West | LDem (front bench) | absent |
aye |
John Battle | Leeds West | Lab | aye |
absent |
Keith Vaz | Leicester East | Lab | aye |
aye |
Norman Baker | Lewes | LDem (front bench) | aye |
aye |
Bridget Prentice | Lewisham East | Lab (minister) | aye |
absent |
Harry Cohen | Leyton and Wanstead | Lab | aye |
aye |
Peter Kilfoyle | Liverpool, Walton | Lab | aye |
absent |
Robert Wareing | Liverpool, West Derby | whilst Independent | absent |
aye |
Robert Wareing | Liverpool, West Derby | whilst Lab | aye |
absent |
Robin Cook | Livingston | Lab | aye |
absent |
Jim Devine | Livingston | Lab | absent |
no |
Andy Reed | Loughborough | Lab | aye |
aye |
Kelvin Hopkins | Luton North | Lab (minister) | aye |
aye |
Ian McCartney | Makerfield | Lab (minister) | absent |
no |
Graham Stringer | Manchester, Blackley | Lab (minister) | absent |
no |
John Leech | Manchester, Withington | LDem | aye |
aye |
Robert Marshall-Andrews | Medway | Lab | aye |
aye |
Elfyn Llwyd | Meirionnydd Nant Conwy | PC (front bench) | absent |
aye |
Annette Brooke | Mid Dorset and North Poole | LDem (front bench) | aye |
aye |
Peter Luff | Mid Worcestershire | Con (front bench) | no |
absent |
Stuart Bell | Middlesbrough | Lab (minister) | absent |
no |
Ashok Kumar | Middlesbrough South and East Cleveland | Lab | aye |
absent |
David Hamilton | Midlothian | Lab (minister) | absent |
no |
David Davies | Monmouth | Con | absent |
aye |
Angus MacNeil | Na h-Eileanan an Iar | SNP (front bench) | no |
absent |
Peter Hain | Neath | Lab (minister) | absent |
no |
Nick Brown | Newcastle upon Tyne East and Wallsend | Lab | absent |
no |
Doug Henderson | Newcastle upon Tyne North | Lab | aye |
absent |
Paul Farrelly | Newcastle-under-Lyme | Lab (minister) | aye |
aye |
Paul Flynn | Newport West | Lab (minister) | aye |
absent |
Ian Paisley | North Antrim | DUP (front bench) | no |
absent |
Katy Clark | North Ayrshire and Arran | Lab | aye |
absent |
Dan Rogerson | North Cornwall | LDem (front bench) | aye |
tellaye |
Nick Harvey | North Devon | LDem (front bench) | aye |
aye |
Robert Walter | North Dorset | Con (front bench) | no |
absent |
Sylvia Hermon | North Down | UUP (front bench) | absent |
aye |
Malcolm Moss | North East Cambridgeshire | Con (front bench) | no |
absent |
Natascha Engel | North East Derbyshire | Lab | absent |
no |
Menzies Campbell | North East Fife | LDem (front bench) | aye |
aye |
Oliver Heald | North East Hertfordshire | Con (front bench) | no |
absent |
Norman Lamb | North Norfolk | LDem (front bench) | aye |
aye |
Owen Paterson | North Shropshire | Con | no |
absent |
Simon Hughes | North Southwark and Bermondsey | LDem (front bench) | aye |
aye |
Stephen Byers | North Tyneside | Lab | aye |
absent |
Mike O'Brien | North Warwickshire | Lab (minister) | absent |
no |
David Taylor | North West Leicestershire | Lab | aye |
both |
James Gray | North Wiltshire | Con | no |
absent |
Brian Binley | Northampton South | Con | no |
absent |
Steve Webb | Northavon | LDem (front bench) | aye |
aye |
Ian Gibson | Norwich North | Lab | aye |
absent |
Charles Clarke | Norwich South | Lab (minister) | aye |
absent |
Alan Simpson | Nottingham South | Lab | aye |
aye |
Derek Conway | Old Bexley and Sidcup | whilst Con | no |
absent |
Michael Meacher | Oldham West and Royton | Lab | aye |
absent |
Alistair Carmichael | Orkney and Shetland | LDem (front bench) | aye |
absent |
John Horam | Orpington | Con | no |
absent |
Andrew Smith | Oxford East | Lab | aye |
aye |
Evan Harris | Oxford West and Abingdon | LDem | absent |
aye |
Yvette Cooper | Pontefract and Castleford | Lab (minister) | absent |
no |
Kim Howells | Pontypridd | Lab (minister) | absent |
no |
Mike Hancock | Portsmouth South | LDem (front bench) | aye |
absent |
Paul Truswell | Pudsey | Lab | absent |
aye |
Karen Buck | Regent's Park and Kensington North | Lab (minister) | aye |
absent |
Nigel Evans | Ribble Valley | Con (front bench) | no |
absent |
Susan Kramer | Richmond Park | LDem (front bench) | absent |
aye |
Paul Rowen | Rochdale | LDem | aye |
absent |
Janet Anderson | Rossendale and Darwen | Lab | absent |
no |
Denis MacShane | Rotherham | Lab | aye |
absent |
Kenneth Clarke | Rushcliffe | Con (front bench) | no |
absent |
John Greenway | Ryedale | Con | no |
absent |
Phil Wilson | Sedgefield | Lab | absent |
no |
Richard Caborn | Sheffield Central | Lab (minister) | aye |
absent |
David Blunkett | Sheffield, Brightside | Lab (minister) | absent |
no |
Nick Clegg | Sheffield, Hallam | LDem (front bench) | aye |
aye |
Paddy Tipping | Sherwood | Lab | aye |
absent |
David Curry | Skipton and Ripon | Con | absent |
aye |
Lorely Burt | Solihull | LDem (front bench) | aye |
aye |
David Heath | Somerton and Frome | LDem (front bench) | aye |
aye |
Colin Breed | South East Cornwall | LDem (front bench) | aye |
aye |
David Miliband | South Shields | Lab (minister) | aye |
absent |
Patrick Cormack | South Staffordshire | Con (front bench) | absent |
aye |
Anne Snelgrove | South Swindon | Lab | aye |
absent |
Stephen Ladyman | South Thanet | Lab (minister) | absent |
no |
John Denham | Southampton, Itchen | Lab (minister) | absent |
no |
John Pugh | Southport | LDem (front bench) | aye |
aye |
Andrew George | St Ives | LDem (front bench) | aye |
aye |
Anne McGuire | Stirling | Lab (minister) | aye |
absent |
Frank Cook | Stockton North | Lab | aye |
absent |
Mark Fisher | Stoke-on-Trent Central | Lab | absent |
aye |
John Maples | Stratford-on-Avon | Con (front bench) | no |
absent |
Bill Etherington | Sunderland North | Lab | aye |
absent |
Paul Burstow | Sutton and Cheam | LDem (front bench) | aye |
aye |
Andrew Mitchell | Sutton Coldfield | Con (front bench) | absent |
aye |
Siân James | Swansea East | Lab | aye |
absent |
Jeremy Browne | Taunton | LDem (front bench) | absent |
aye |
Richard Younger-Ross | Teignbridge | LDem | absent |
aye |
David Wright | Telford | Lab (minister) | absent |
no |
Laurence Robertson | Tewkesbury | Con (front bench) | absent |
aye |
Andrew MacKinlay | Thurrock | Lab | aye |
aye |
John Stanley | Tonbridge and Malling | Con (front bench) | no |
absent |
Adrian Sanders | Torbay | LDem (front bench) | aye |
aye |
Matthew Taylor | Truro and St Austell | LDem (front bench) | absent |
aye |
Vincent Cable | Twickenham | LDem (front bench) | absent |
aye |
Kate Hoey | Vauxhall | Lab (minister) | aye |
aye |
Neil Gerrard | Walthamstow | Lab | aye |
aye |
James Plaskitt | Warwick and Leamington | Lab (minister) | absent |
no |
Claire Ward | Watford | Lab (minister) | absent |
tellno |
Mike Hall | Weaver Vale | Lab | aye |
absent |
David Heathcoat-Amory | Wells | Con (front bench) | no |
absent |
Robert Smith | West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine | LDem (front bench) | absent |
aye |
Adrian Bailey | West Bromwich West | Lab (minister) | aye |
absent |
Tim Farron | Westmorland and Lonsdale | LDem (front bench) | aye |
aye |
Neil Turner | Wigan | Lab | aye |
absent |
Humfrey Malins | Woking | Con (front bench) | no |
absent |
Peter Bottomley | Worthing West | Con | absent |
aye |
David Laws | Yeovil | LDem (front bench) | aye |
aye |
The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation
based on a comparison of their votes.
There were
644 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions,
and 58 voted the same way, with 367 voting in opposite ways.
There were 34 MPs who didn't vote in either division,
and 185 who voted in only one of them.
We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of
'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put).
In this case, they line up on opposite sides.
An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance.
The calculation runs as follows:
ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
367
(367 + 58 + 0.2x185)
=
367
462
=
0.794
=
79.4 %.