Comparison of Divisions: Natural Environment and Rural Communities Bill (Programme) — 6 Jun 2005 at 21:59 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) : Natural Environment and Rural Communities Bill (Programme) - 6 Jun 2005 at 21:59 - Division No. 6

The issue in this division was whether to approve a programme motion for the Natural Environment and Rural Communities Bill, which required that the Standing Committee proceedings finish by 5th July. Those voting Aye agreed to this limit.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by name

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLababsent aye
Danny AlexanderInverness, Nairn, Badenoch and StrathspeyLDem (front bench)aye aye
Janet AndersonRossendale and DarwenLababsent no
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLabaye absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)aye absent
Norman BakerLewesLDem (front bench)aye aye
Gregory BarkerBexhill and BattleCon (front bench)absent aye
John BarrettEdinburgh WestLDemaye aye
John BattleLeeds WestLabaye absent
Margaret BeckettDerby SouthLab (minister)absent no
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)aye aye
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthConno absent
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLab (minister)absent no
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)no absent
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestConabsent aye
Ben BradshawExeterLab (minister)absent no
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)aye aye
Annette BrookeMid Dorset and North PooleLDem (front bench)aye aye
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Nick BrownNewcastle upon Tyne East and WallsendLababsent no
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm BruceGordonLDemaye aye
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)aye aye
Lorely BurtSolihullLDem (front bench)aye aye
John ButterfillBournemouth WestConno absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabaye absent
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)aye aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLabaye absent
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)aye absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye absent
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)aye aye
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLabaye absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)no absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLabaye absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)no absent
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)aye aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLabaye aye
Derek ConwayOld Bexley and Sidcupwhilst Conno absent
Frank CookStockton NorthLabaye absent
Robin CookLivingstonLabaye absent
Yvette CooperPontefract and CastlefordLab (minister)absent no
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabaye aye
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Jon CruddasDagenhamLab (minister)aye absent
David CurrySkipton and RiponConabsent aye
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLabaye absent
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
David DaviesMonmouthConabsent aye
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)no absent
John DenhamSouthampton, ItchenLab (minister)absent no
Jim DevineLivingstonLababsent no
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLabaye absent
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
Brian H DonohoeCentral AyrshireLab (minister)absent no
Stephen DorrellCharnwoodConabsent aye
Natascha EngelNorth East DerbyshireLababsent no
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabaye absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyCon (front bench)no absent
David EvennettBexleyheath and CrayfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)aye aye
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)aye aye
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDem (front bench)absent aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)aye absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLababsent aye
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)aye absent
Eric ForthBromley and ChislehurstConno absent
Don FosterBathLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDem (front bench)aye aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLabaye aye
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLabaye absent
Dame Cheryl GillanChesham and AmershamCon (front bench)absent aye
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabaye absent
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)absent aye
James GrayNorth WiltshireConno absent
John GreenwayRyedaleConno absent
Peter HainNeathLab (minister)absent no
Mike HallWeaver ValeLabaye absent
Patrick HallBedfordLabaye absent
David HamiltonMidlothianLab (minister)absent no
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)aye absent
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)aye absent
David HansonDelynLab (minister)absent no
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDemabsent aye
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)no absent
David HeathSomerton and FromeLDem (front bench)aye aye
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)no absent
John HemmingBirmingham, YardleyLDemabsent aye
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabaye absent
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)aye absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLabaye absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)aye absent
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)aye aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)aye aye
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)aye absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)aye aye
John HoramOrpingtonConno absent
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDemaye aye
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)no absent
David HowarthCambridgeLDem (front bench)aye aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Kim HowellsPontypriddLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)aye absent
Simon HughesNorth Southwark and BermondseyLDem (front bench)aye aye
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)absent aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLabaye aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLabaye absent
Michael JackFyldeConno absent
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabaye aye
Siân JamesSwansea EastLabaye absent
Boris JohnsonHenleyConno absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLabaye absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLabaye absent
Tessa JowellDulwich and West NorwoodLab (minister)absent no
Ruth KellyBolton WestLab (minister)absent no
Piara S KhabraEaling, SouthallLabaye absent
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabaye absent
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveConno absent
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLabaye absent
Stephen LadymanSouth ThanetLab (minister)absent no
Eleanor LaingEpping ForestCon (front bench)absent aye
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)aye aye
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)aye aye
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDemaye aye
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)aye absent
David LidingtonAylesburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter LilleyHitchin and HarpendenConabsent aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLabaye absent
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)absent aye
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)no absent
John MacDougallGlenrothesLabaye absent
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLabaye aye
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)no absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabaye absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabaye absent
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)no absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLabaye absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)aye absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)no absent
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLabaye aye
David MarshallGlasgow EastLabaye absent
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabaye aye
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Michael MatesEast HampshireConno absent
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLab (minister)absent no
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLPabsent aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabaye aye
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)aye absent
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLabaye aye
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabaye absent
Alan MilburnDarlingtonLababsent no
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)aye absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLabaye absent
Andrew MitchellSutton ColdfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)aye absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLabaye absent
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)aye aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLabaye aye
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLabaye absent
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstConabsent aye
Mike O'BrienNorth WarwickshireLab (minister)absent no
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLabaye absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)aye absent
Ian PaisleyNorth AntrimDUP (front bench)no absent
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLabaye aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireConno absent
Ian PearsonDudley SouthLab (minister)absent no
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Conno absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independentabsent aye
James PlaskittWarwick and LeamingtonLab (minister)absent no
Greg PopeHyndburnLabaye absent
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)aye absent
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLab (minister)aye absent
John PughSouthportLDem (front bench)aye aye
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)aye absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLabaye aye
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLab (minister)aye absent
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDemabsent aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLabaye aye
Hugh RobertsonFaversham and Mid KentCon (front bench)absent aye
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)aye absent
Laurence RobertsonTewkesburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Geoffrey RobinsonCoventry North WestLababsent no
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Dan RogersonNorth CornwallLDem (front bench)aye tellaye
Paul RowenRochdaleLDemaye absent
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Bob RussellColchesterLDem (front bench)aye aye
Adrian SandersTorbayLDem (front bench)aye aye
Mohammad SarwarGlasgow CentralLababsent no
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Clare ShortBirmingham, Ladywoodwhilst Labaye absent
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabaye aye
Marsha SinghBradford WestLabaye absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
Angela SmithBasildonLab (minister)absent no
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)absent aye
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLabaye absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Conno absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independentabsent aye
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)no absent
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)absent no
Graham StringerManchester, BlackleyLab (minister)absent no
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)aye absent
Andrew StunellHazel GroveLDem (front bench)aye aye
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Hugo SwireEast DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLabaye both
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDem (front bench)absent aye
Sarah TeatherBrent EastLDem (front bench)aye aye
Gareth ThomasHarrow WestLab (minister)absent no
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)absent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Paddy TippingSherwoodLabaye absent
Paul TruswellPudseyLababsent aye
Neil TurnerWiganLabaye absent
Derek TwiggHaltonLab (minister)absent no
Kitty UssherBurnleyLababsent no
Keith VazLeicester EastLabaye aye
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabaye absent
Robert WalterNorth DorsetCon (front bench)no absent
Claire WardWatfordLab (minister)absent tellno
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labaye absent
Steve WebbNorthavonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
Betty WilliamsConwyLabaye absent
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)absent aye
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)aye aye
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Stephen WilliamsBristol WestLDem (front bench)aye aye
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDemabsent aye
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDemabsent aye
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabaye aye
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLabaye absent
David WrightTelfordLab (minister)absent no
Tony WrightCannock ChaseLababsent no
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDemabsent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 644 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 58 voted the same way, with 367 voting in opposite ways. There were 34 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 185 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
367
(367 + 58 + 0.2x185)
=
367
462
= 0.794 = 79.4 %.


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