Comparison of Divisions: Identity Cards Bill — Money — 28 Jun 2005 at 22:18 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

(Swap the two divisions around).

Vote (a) : Identity Cards Bill — Money - 28 Jun 2005 at 22:18 - Division No. 22

The Aye-voters agreed to authorize the payments from the Treasury to the National Identity Scheme Commissioner, the Home Secretary, and to any other department whose costs are increased as a result of the passing of the Identity Cards Bill.

This vote is a formality which shows that Parliament is supposedly in control of all public money spent by the government.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by constituency

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLab (minister)aye absent
Richard ShepherdAldridge-BrownhillsCon (front bench)absent aye
Graham BradyAltrincham and Sale WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLabaye absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)aye absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)aye absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)aye absent
Tony BaldryBanburyConabsent aye
Alex SalmondBanff and BuchanSNP (front bench)no absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)aye absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLabaye absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)aye absent
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLabaye absent
Patrick HallBedfordLabaye absent
John BaronBillericayCon (front bench)absent aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)aye absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)aye absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabaye absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabaye absent
John HemmingBirmingham, YardleyLDemabsent aye
Andrew RobathanBlabyCon (front bench)absent aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLabaye aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLabaye aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLabaye absent
Nick GibbBognor Regis and LittlehamptonCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark SimmondsBoston and SkegnessCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKayBracknellCon (front bench)absent aye
Terry RooneyBradford NorthLababsent no
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)tellaye aye
Eric ForthBromley and ChislehurstConno absent
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstConabsent aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLabaye aye
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabaye absent
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLabaye aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Conno absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independentabsent aye
Stephen DorrellCharnwoodConabsent aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Iain Duncan SmithChingford and Woodford GreenConabsent aye
Theresa VilliersChipping BarnetCon (front bench)absent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)aye absent
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLabaye aye
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLabaye absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLabaye absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabaye absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLabaye absent
Geoffrey Clifton-BrownCotswoldCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Conno absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independentabsent aye
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Jon CruddasDagenhamLab (minister)aye absent
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)no absent
Michael AncramDevizesCon (front bench)absent aye
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLabaye absent
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)no absent
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)no absent
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDemabsent aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Piara S KhabraEaling, SouthallLabaye absent
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLab (minister)absent no
Anne MoffatEast LothianLabaye absent
Peter AinsworthEast SurreyConabsent aye
Tim LoughtonEast Worthing and ShorehamCon (front bench)absent aye
Nigel WatersonEastbourneCon (front bench)absent aye
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabaye absent
Andrew LoveEdmontonLab (minister)absent no
Colin BurgonElmetLabaye absent
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLabaye absent
Ian TaylorEsher and WaltonConabsent aye
Mark DurkanFoyleSDLP (front bench)no absent
Michael JackFyldeConno absent
Edward LeighGainsboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
David MarshallGlasgow EastLabaye absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)aye absent
John MacDougallGlenrothesLabaye absent
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLabaye absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLababsent aye
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLabaye absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLababsent aye
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)no absent
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)aye absent
Tony McNultyHarrow EastLab (minister)absent no
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLababsent aye
Mike PenningHemel HempsteadConabsent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Boris JohnsonHenleyConno absent
Paul KeetchHerefordLDemno absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLabaye absent
Peter LilleyHitchin and HarpendenConabsent aye
Greg PopeHyndburnLabaye absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLabaye absent
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)aye absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)aye absent
John BattleLeeds WestLabaye absent
Keith VazLeicester EastLabaye aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)aye absent
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLabaye aye
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabaye absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Robin CookLivingstonLabaye absent
Jim DevineLivingstonLababsent no
Andy ReedLoughboroughLabaye aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)absent aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdConabsent aye
Alan MealeMansfieldLabaye absent
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLababsent aye
Caroline SpelmanMeridenCon (front bench)absent aye
Keith SimpsonMid NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)no absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLabaye absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLababsent no
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)no absent
Peter HainNeathLab (minister)absent no
Julian LewisNew Forest EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabaye absent
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)aye aye
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)aye absent
Ian PaisleyNorth AntrimDUP (front bench)no absent
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)no absent
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireConno absent
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabaye absent
George YoungNorth West HampshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLabaye both
James GrayNorth WiltshireConno absent
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthConno absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLabaye absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Graham AllenNottingham NorthLababsent no
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLababsent aye
Derek ConwayOld Bexley and Sidcupwhilst Conno absent
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)no absent
John HoramOrpingtonConno absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLababsent aye
Martin SalterReading WestLabaye absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyCon (front bench)no absent
William HagueRichmond (Yorks)Conabsent aye
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)no absent
Charles KennedyRoss, Skye and LochaberLDem (front bench)no absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabaye absent
John GreenwayRyedaleConno absent
Robert KeySalisburyConabsent aye
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLab (minister)aye absent
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLab (minister)absent no
Paddy TippingSherwoodLabaye absent
David CurrySkipton and RiponConabsent aye
Eddie McGradySouth DownSDLPno absent
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)absent aye
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)aye absent
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkConabsent aye
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLabaye absent
Gary StreeterSouth West DevonConabsent aye
Anne MainSt AlbansConabsent aye
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)aye absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLababsent aye
Iris RobinsonStrangfordDUPno absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)no absent
John GummerSuffolk CoastalConabsent aye
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabaye absent
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Siân JamesSwansea EastLabaye absent
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLabaye aye
Angela BrowningTiverton and HonitonCon (front bench)absent aye
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)no absent
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemabsent aye
David SimpsonUpper BannDUP (front bench)no absent
John SmithVale of GlamorganLababsent no
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)absent aye
David WinnickWalsall NorthLab (minister)absent no
Bruce GeorgeWalsall SouthLababsent no
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLababsent aye
Mike HallWeaver ValeLabaye absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)aye absent
Simon BurnsWest ChelmsfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard SpringWest SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Neil TurnerWiganLabaye absent
Mark OatenWinchesterLDem (front bench)no absent
Ben ChapmanWirral SouthLababsent no
John RedwoodWokinghamConabsent aye
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestConabsent aye
Albert OwenYnys MônLab (minister)absent no

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 645 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 15 voted the same way, with 417 voting in opposite ways. There were 39 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 174 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
417
(417 + 15 + 0.2x174)
=
417
466.8
= 0.893 = 89.3 %.


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