Comparison of Divisions: Finance Bill — New Clause 4 — Tax Law Commission — 6 Jul 2005 at 14:45 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) : Finance Bill — New Clause 4 — Tax Law Commission - 6 Jul 2005 at 14:45 - Division No. 31

The issue in this division was whether to put forward a new clause for the Finance Bill, which enacts the budget provisions. The new clause, which was proposed by the Conservative front bench, would have required the Treasury to set up a commission to examine the tax laws and report on how they could be simplified.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)aye absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)aye absent
Derek ConwayOld Bexley and Sidcupwhilst Conaye absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyCon (front bench)aye absent
Eric ForthBromley and ChislehurstCon (front bench)aye absent
John GreenwayRyedaleConaye absent
John HoramOrpingtonConaye absent
Michael JackFyldeConaye absent
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveConaye absent
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)aye absent
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)aye absent
Michael MatesEast HampshireConaye absent
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireConaye absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Conaye absent
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)aye absent
Robert WalterNorth DorsetCon (front bench)aye absent
James ArbuthnotNorth East HampshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter AtkinsonHexhamCon (front bench)absent aye
Tony BaldryBanburyConabsent aye
Henry BellinghamNorth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard BenyonNewburyConabsent aye
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
Angela BrowningTiverton and HonitonCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Geoffrey CoxTorridge and West DevonConabsent aye
David CurrySkipton and RiponConabsent aye
Jonathan DjanoglyHuntingdonCon (front bench)absent aye
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael FallonSevenoaksCon (front bench)absent aye
Dame Cheryl GillanChesham and AmershamCon (front bench)absent aye
Dominic GrieveBeaconsfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
Adam HollowayGraveshamConabsent aye
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheCon (front bench)absent aye
Gerald HowarthAldershotCon (front bench)absent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Robert KeySalisburyConabsent aye
Greg KnightEast YorkshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew LansleySouth CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Julian LewisNew Forest EastCon (front bench)absent aye
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Theresa MayMaidenheadCon (front bench)absent aye
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstConabsent aye
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
John PenroseWeston-Super-MareConabsent aye
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)absent aye
John RedwoodWokinghamConabsent aye
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaCon (front bench)absent aye
Hugh RobertsonFaversham and Mid KentCon (front bench)absent aye
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas SoamesMid SussexConabsent aye
Graham StuartBeverley and HoldernessConabsent aye
Ian TaylorEsher and WaltonConabsent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Ed VaizeyWantageConabsent aye
Peter ViggersGosportConabsent aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdConabsent aye
David WillettsHavantCon (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas WintertonMacclesfieldConabsent aye
Jeremy WrightRugby and KenilworthConabsent aye
Ian PaisleyNorth AntrimDUP (front bench)aye absent
David SimpsonUpper BannDUP (front bench)aye absent
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independentabsent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independentabsent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLabno aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabno aye
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLabno aye
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)no aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLabno aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabno aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLabno aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLabno aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabno aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabno aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLabno aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLabno aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLabno aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)no aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLabno aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLabno aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabno aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabno aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLabno aye
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLabno absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)no absent
Colin BurgonElmetLabno absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabno absent
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLabno absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)no absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLabno absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLabno absent
Robin CookLivingstonLabno absent
Jon CruddasDagenhamLab (minister)no absent
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLabno absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Gwyneth DunwoodyCrewe and NantwichLabno absent
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabno absent
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)no absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLabno absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabno absent
Mike HallWeaver ValeLabno absent
Patrick HallBedfordLabno absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)no absent
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabno absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLabno absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)no absent
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLabno absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLabno absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLabno absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLabno absent
Piara S KhabraEaling, SouthallLabno absent
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
Martin LintonBatterseaLabno absent
John MacDougallGlenrothesLab (minister)no absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabno absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLabno absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
David MarshallGlasgow EastLabno absent
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabno absent
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabno absent
Alan MealeMansfieldLabno absent
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)no absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLabno absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLabno absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLabno absent
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLabno absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)no absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLabno absent
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLab (minister)no absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLabno absent
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLab (minister)no absent
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)no absent
Martin SalterReading WestLabno absent
Clare ShortBirmingham, Ladywoodwhilst Labno absent
Marsha SinghBradford WestLabno absent
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLabno absent
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabno absent
Paddy TippingSherwoodLabno absent
Neil TurnerWiganLabno absent
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabno absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labno absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)no absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLabno absent
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLababsent aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)absent aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLababsent aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Bob AinsworthCoventry North EastLab (minister)absent no
Douglas AlexanderPaisley and Renfrewshire SouthLab (minister)absent no
Vera BairdRedcarLababsent no
Gordon BanksOchil and South PerthshireLababsent no
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Margaret BeckettDerby SouthLab (minister)absent no
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLab (minister)absent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Lyn BrownWest HamLababsent no
Nick BrownNewcastle upon Tyne East and WallsendLababsent no
Des BrowneKilmarnock and LoudounLab (minister)absent no
Liam ByrneBirmingham, Hodge HillLab (minister)absent no
Paul ClarkGillinghamLababsent no
Ann CoffeyStockportLababsent no
Ian DavidsonGlasgow South WestLab (minister)absent no
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Jim DevineLivingstonLababsent no
Clive EffordElthamLab (minister)absent no
Natascha EngelNorth East DerbyshireLababsent no
Jim FitzpatrickPoplar and Canning TownLab (minister)absent no
Caroline FlintDon ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Barbara FollettStevenageLababsent no
Hywel FrancisAberavonLab (minister)absent no
Bruce GeorgeWalsall SouthLababsent no
Nia GriffithLlanelliLab (minister)absent no
John HuttonBarrow and FurnessLab (minister)absent no
Huw Irranca-DaviesOgmoreLab (minister)absent no
Alan JohnsonKingston upon Hull West and HessleLab (minister)absent no
Tessa JowellDulwich and West NorwoodLab (minister)absent no
Jim KnightSouth DorsetLab (minister)absent no
David LammyTottenhamLab (minister)absent no
Steve McCabeBirmingham, Hall GreenLababsent no
Siobhain McDonaghMitcham and MordenLab (minister)absent no
Alun MichaelCardiff South and PenarthLab (minister)absent no
Alan MilburnDarlingtonLababsent no
Madeleine MoonBridgendLababsent no
Elliot MorleyScunthorpeLab (minister)absent no
Chris MullinSunderland SouthLababsent no
Mike O'BrienNorth WarwickshireLab (minister)absent no
Ian PearsonDudley SouthLab (minister)absent no
Geoffrey RobinsonCoventry North WestLababsent no
Terry RooneyBradford NorthLababsent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Mohammad SarwarGlasgow CentralLababsent no
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Barry SheermanHuddersfieldLab (minister)absent no
Jim SheridanPaisley and Renfrewshire NorthLab (minister)absent no
Angela SmithBasildonLab (minister)absent no
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLababsent no
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)absent no
Gareth ThomasHarrow WestLab (minister)absent no
Kitty UssherBurnleyLababsent no
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
Phil WoolasOldham East and SaddleworthLab (minister)absent no
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLababsent both
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)aye absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)aye absent
Paul KeetchHerefordLDemaye absent
Charles KennedyRoss, Skye and LochaberLDem (front bench)aye absent
Mark OatenWinchesterLDem (front bench)aye absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)absent aye
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Don FosterBathLDem (front bench)absent aye
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDem (front bench)absent aye
David HowarthCambridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Simon HughesNorth Southwark and BermondseyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDemabsent aye
Dan RogersonNorth CornwallLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemabsent aye
Sarah TeatherBrent EastLDem (front bench)absent aye
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)absent aye
Steve WebbNorthavonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)absent aye
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)no aye
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)no aye
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)no aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)no aye
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)no aye
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)no aye
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)no absent
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)no absent
Alex SalmondBanff and BuchanSNP (front bench)no absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 645 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 361 voted the same way, with 31 voting in opposite ways. There were 46 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 207 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
361
(361 + 31 + 0.2x207)
=
361
433.4
= 0.833 = 83.3 %.


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