Comparison of Divisions: Identity Cards Bill — Recommittal to Select Committee — 18 Oct 2005 at 16:22 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) : Identity Cards Bill — Recommittal to Select Committee - 18 Oct 2005 at 16:22 - Division No. 56

Those voting Aye were trying to recommit the Identity Cards Bill to a Select Committee. Recommittal means that the details of the Bill would again be subject to line-by-line scrutiny, as it was earlier in the Standing Committee. A Select Committee is, however, able to take external evidence and write a report which balances the views of all of its members. The Select Committee report, published on 20 July 2004, on the Identity Cards Bill which did not complete its passage in the previous Parliamentary session is here.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by constituency

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLab (minister)no absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)no absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
David LidingtonAylesburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)no absent
Alex SalmondBanff and BuchanSNP (front bench)aye absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)no absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)no absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)no absent
John MannBassetlawLabno absent
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabno aye
Dominic GrieveBeaconsfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
George GallowayBethnal Green and BowRespectaye absent
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)no absent
Clare ShortBirmingham, Ladywoodwhilst Labaye absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)no absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabno absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)aye absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabno absent
John HemmingBirmingham, YardleyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)no aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLabno absent
John ButterfillBournemouth WestConaye absent
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)no absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Madeleine MoonBridgendLab (minister)absent no
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Eric ForthBromley and ChislehurstCon (front bench)aye absent
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstConabsent aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLabno aye
Janet DeanBurtonLab (minister)absent no
David ChaytorBury NorthLab (minister)absent no
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)absent aye
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabno absent
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLabno aye
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLabno absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLab (minister)no absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)no absent
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Conaye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independentabsent aye
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabno absent
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)aye absent
Michael AncramDevizesCon (front bench)absent aye
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLabno absent
Russell BrownDumfries and GallowayLab (minister)absent no
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)aye absent
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)aye absent
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDemabsent aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)no aye
Piara S KhabraEaling, SouthallLab (minister)no absent
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Michael MatesEast HampshireConaye absent
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)no absent
Stephen O'BrienEddisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabno absent
Colin BurgonElmetLab (minister)no absent
Chris GraylingEpsom and EwellCon (front bench)absent aye
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)no absent
Ian TaylorEsher and WaltonConabsent aye
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabno absent
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael JackFyldeConaye absent
David MarshallGlasgow EastLabno absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLabno absent
John MacDougallGlenrothesLab (minister)no absent
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)no absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLabno absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabno aye
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)no absent
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabno aye
Edward GarnierHarboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)no absent
David WillettsHavantCon (front bench)absent aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabno aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Boris JohnsonHenleyConaye absent
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)aye absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)aye absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)no absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)no absent
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabno aye
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaCon (front bench)absent aye
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLab (minister)no absent
Alan JohnsonKingston upon Hull West and HessleLab (minister)absent no
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLabno absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)no absent
George MudieLeeds EastLab (minister)absent no
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)no absent
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)no absent
Keith VazLeicester EastLabno aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabno absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labno absent
Andy ReedLoughboroughLabno aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Theresa MayMaidenheadCon (front bench)absent aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdConabsent aye
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLab (minister)absent no
Alan MealeMansfieldLabno absent
Caroline SpelmanMeridenCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)aye absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLabno absent
Paul BeresfordMole ValleyCon (front bench)absent aye
David DaviesMonmouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLabaye no
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)aye absent
Desmond SwayneNew Forest WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabno absent
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)no aye
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)no absent
Ian PaisleyNorth AntrimDUP (front bench)aye absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)aye absent
Robert WalterNorth DorsetConaye absent
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabno absent
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
Sally KeebleNorthampton NorthLab (minister)absent no
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthConaye absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)no absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLab (minister)no absent
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabno aye
Derek ConwayOld Bexley and Sidcupwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabno absent
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)aye absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)aye absent
Paul TruswellPudseyLababsent aye
Martin SalterReading WestLabno absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
Paul RowenRochdaleLDemaye absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Charles KennedyRoss, Skye and LochaberLDem (front bench)aye absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabno absent
Philip HammondRunnymede and WeybridgeCon (front bench)absent aye
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)absent aye
John GreenwayRyedaleConaye absent
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLab (minister)no absent
Paddy TippingSherwoodLabno absent
Andrew LansleySouth CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)no absent
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)no absent
Gary StreeterSouth West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
John PughSouthportLDem (front bench)absent aye
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)aye absent
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)no absent
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)no absent
Iris RobinsonStrangfordDUPaye absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)aye absent
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabno absent
Andrew MitchellSutton ColdfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
Brian JenkinsTamworthLab (minister)absent no
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)no aye
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)aye absent
David WinnickWalsall NorthLab (minister)absent no
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Ed VaizeyWantageConabsent aye
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)aye absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLabno absent
Oliver LetwinWest DorsetCon (front bench)absent aye
Neil TurnerWiganLabno absent
Mark OatenWinchesterLDem (front bench)aye absent
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)aye absent
John RedwoodWokinghamConabsent aye
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 435 voted the same way, with 24 voting in opposite ways. There were 26 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 161 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
435
(435 + 24 + 0.2x161)
=
435
491.2
= 0.886 = 88.6 %.


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