Comparison of Divisions: Government of Wales Bill — [2nd Allotted Day] — Clause 94 — Amendment of Schedule 5 — 24 Jan 2006 at 17:00 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

(Swap the two divisions around).

Vote (a) (unedited): Government of Wales Bill — [2nd Allotted Day] — Clause 94 — Amendment of Schedule 5 - 24 Jan 2006 at 17:00 - Division No. 138

Question put, That the amendment be made:-

The Committee divided: Ayes 172, Noes 328.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by constituency

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Richard ShepherdAldridge-BrownhillsCon (front bench)absent aye
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)no aye
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)no absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Tony BaldryBanburyConabsent aye
Alex SalmondBanff and BuchanSNP (front bench)no absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)no absent
John HuttonBarrow and FurnessLab (minister)absent no
Angela SmithBasildonLab (minister)absent no
Maria MillerBasingstokeCon (front bench)absent aye
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
Don FosterBathLDem (front bench)no aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabno aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)no absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)no aye
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)no absent
Steve McCabeBirmingham, Hall GreenLab (minister)absent no
Clare ShortBirmingham, Ladywoodwhilst Labno absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLab (minister)no absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabno absent
John HemmingBirmingham, YardleyLDem (front bench)no aye
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)absent no
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)no aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
Peter LawBlaenau GwentIndependentno absent
David AndersonBlaydonLab (minister)absent no
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLab (minister)no absent
David CrausbyBolton North EastLab (minister)absent no
Joe BentonBootleLab (minister)absent no
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew MacKayBracknellCon (front bench)absent aye
Terry RooneyBradford NorthLab (minister)absent no
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)no absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Sarah TeatherBrent EastLDem (front bench)no aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Desmond TurnerBrighton, KemptownLab (minister)absent no
Kerry McCarthyBristol EastLab (minister)absent no
Stephen WilliamsBristol WestLDem (front bench)no aye
Eric ForthBromley and ChislehurstCon (front bench)aye absent
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstConabsent aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)no aye
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)no aye
David HowarthCambridgeLDem (front bench)no aye
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDem (front bench)no aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)no aye
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)no aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)no aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)no aye
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)no aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Christopher ChopeChristchurchCon (front bench)absent aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)no aye
Tom ClarkeCoatbridge, Chryston and BellshillLababsent no
Bob RussellColchesterLDem (front bench)no aye
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)no absent
Gwyneth DunwoodyCrewe and NantwichLab (minister)no absent
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Conaye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independentabsent aye
Rosemary McKennaCumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch EastLab (minister)absent no
Ann ClwydCynon ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabno absent
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)aye absent
David HansonDelynLab (minister)absent no
Bob LaxtonDerby NorthLababsent no
Margaret BeckettDerby SouthLab (minister)absent no
Shahid MalikDewsburyLab (minister)absent no
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLabno absent
Ian PearsonDudley SouthLab (minister)absent no
Tessa JowellDulwich and West NorwoodLab (minister)absent no
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)aye absent
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDemabsent aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)absent aye
Piara S KhabraEaling, SouthallLab (minister)no absent
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Michael MatesEast HampshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLab (minister)absent no
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)no absent
Greg KnightEast YorkshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)absent aye
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabno absent
John BarrettEdinburgh WestLDem (front bench)no aye
Colin BurgonElmetLab (minister)no absent
Eric JoyceFalkirkLab (minister)absent no
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)absent aye
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)aye absent
Sharon HodgsonGateshead East and Washington WestLab (minister)absent no
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)no absent
John MacDougallGlenrothesLab (minister)no absent
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)no absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)no absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabno aye
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)no absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)no aye
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)aye absent
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabno aye
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDem (front bench)no aye
Gareth ThomasHarrow WestLab (minister)absent no
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabno aye
Andrew StunellHazel GroveLDem (front bench)no aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Boris JohnsonHenleyCon (front bench)aye absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)aye absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDem (front bench)absent aye
Francis MaudeHorshamCon (front bench)aye absent
Danny AlexanderInverness, Nairn, Badenoch and StrathspeyLDem (front bench)no aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabno aye
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaConabsent aye
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)no aye
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)no absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)no absent
George MudieLeeds EastLab (minister)absent no
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)no absent
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)no aye
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)no absent
Keith VazLeicester EastLabno aye
Norman BakerLewesLDem (front bench)no aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabno absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labno absent
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)no aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Nicholas WintertonMacclesfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLab (minister)absent no
Tony LloydManchester CentralLababsent no
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)no aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLababsent aye
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)no aye
Annette BrookeMid Dorset and North PooleLDem (front bench)no aye
Nicholas SoamesMid SussexConabsent aye
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)aye absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)no absent
Siobhain McDonaghMitcham and MordenLab (minister)absent no
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)no aye
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLababsent no
Frank RoyMotherwell and WishawLab (minister)absent no
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)no aye
Ian PaisleyNorth AntrimDUP (front bench)aye absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Dan RogersonNorth CornwallLDem (front bench)no tellaye
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)no aye
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)no aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Simon HughesNorth Southwark and BermondseyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)absent aye
Shailesh VaraNorth West CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
Sally KeebleNorthampton NorthLab (minister)absent no
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)aye absent
Steve WebbNorthavonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)no absent
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLababsent aye
Gordon BanksOchil and South PerthshireLab (minister)absent no
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabno absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)no aye
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)no aye
Kim HowellsPontypriddLab (minister)absent no
Paul TruswellPudseyLabno aye
Rob WilsonReading EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Martin SalterReading WestLabno absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDem (front bench)no aye
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)no absent
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)aye absent
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLab (minister)no absent
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)no aye
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)no absent
Lorely BurtSolihullLDem (front bench)no aye
David HeathSomerton and FromeLDem (front bench)no aye
Mark ToddSouth DerbyshireLab (minister)absent no
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)absent aye
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)no absent
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)no absent
Christopher FraserSouth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
John DenhamSouthampton, ItchenLab (minister)absent no
John PughSouthportLDem (front bench)no aye
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDem (front bench)no aye
Charlotte AtkinsStaffordshire MoorlandsLab (minister)absent no
James PurnellStalybridge and HydeLab (minister)absent no
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)no absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno aye
Iris RobinsonStrangfordDUPaye absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)aye absent
Beverley HughesStretford and UrmstonLab (minister)absent no
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)no aye
Andrew MitchellSutton ColdfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)no aye
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)no aye
Adrian SandersTorbayLDemno aye
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemno aye
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Angela WatkinsonUpminsterCon (front bench)absent aye
Kate HoeyVauxhallLabno aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Claire WardWatfordLab (minister)absent tellno
Bob BlizzardWaveneyLab (minister)absent no
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)aye absent
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)no aye
Tom WatsonWest Bromwich EastLab (minister)absent no
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)no aye
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)no absent
Stephen HesfordWirral WestLab (minister)absent no
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)no aye
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)no aye
Albert OwenYnys MônLababsent no

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 645 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 353 voted the same way, with 72 voting in opposite ways. There were 60 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 160 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
353
(353 + 72 + 0.2x160)
=
353
457
= 0.772 = 77.2 %.


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