Comparison of Divisions: Racial and Religious Hatred Bill — 31 Jan 2006 at 19:49 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

(Swap the two divisions around).

Vote (a) : Racial and Religious Hatred Bill - 31 Jan 2006 at 19:49 - Division No. 148

Those voting No agreed that the "Lords amendment No. 4" should remain in the Racial and Religious Hatred Bill. This had been a replacement of most of its contents.

The the original version of the Racial and Religious Hatred Bill passed by the Commons on 11 July 2005 changed "racial hatred" to "racial and religious hatred" in several places in the Public Order Act 1986, and defined the offence with regard:

"to all... words, behaviour or material[s]... that are likely to be heard or seen by any person in whom... they are likely to stir up racial or religious hatred."

In place of this, the Lords applied "Lords amendment No. 4", resulting in a version that said:

A person who uses threatening words or behaviour, or displays any written material which is threatening, is guilty of an offence if he intends... to stir up religious hatred.

It went on to be very specific about the rules in relation to performances, witnesses making accurate statements in court, and the right of free expression.

Had the MPs voted against this Lords amendment, the Government would have substituted a new compromise version which was a combination of the two versions, but added the extra provision:

[A person] is guilty of an offence if... he intends... to stir up religious hatred, or... is reckless as to whether religious hatred would be stirred up [by his actions].

It appears that the fundamental dispute is that the Lords require there to be an intent to stir up hatred, rather than the intention to, say, crack a funny joke which the police happen to believe could be likely to stir up hatred.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by constituency

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Hywel FrancisAberavonLab (minister)absent no
Anne BeggAberdeen SouthLab (minister)absent no
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLab (minister)aye absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)aye absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)aye absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)aye absent
Alex SalmondBanff and BuchanSNP (front bench)no absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)aye absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)aye absent
Angela SmithBasildonLab (minister)absent no
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)aye absent
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabaye aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)aye absent
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
George GallowayBethnal Green and BowRespectaye absent
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)aye absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)aye absent
Steve McCabeBirmingham, Hall GreenLab (minister)absent no
Clare ShortBirmingham, Ladywoodwhilst Labaye absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLab (minister)aye absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabaye absent
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)aye aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)aye aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Joe BentonBootleLab (minister)no no
Mark SimmondsBoston and SkegnessCon (front bench)absent aye
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)no absent
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)aye absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Barry GardinerBrent NorthLab (minister)absent no
Madeleine MoonBridgendLab (minister)absent no
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)aye aye
David LepperBrighton, PavilionLab (minister)absent no
Eric ForthBromley and ChislehurstCon (front bench)no absent
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstConabsent aye
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)no absent
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)aye aye
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabaye absent
Tony WrightCannock ChaseLab (minister)no no
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)aye absent
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)aye aye
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
Ann WintertonCongletonCon (front bench)absent aye
Betty WilliamsConwyLabaye absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)aye absent
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLab (minister)aye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Conno absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independentabsent aye
Rosemary McKennaCumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch EastLab (minister)absent no
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabaye absent
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)no absent
David HansonDelynLab (minister)absent no
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLabaye absent
Ian PearsonDudley SouthLab (minister)absent no
Russell BrownDumfries and GallowayLab (minister)absent no
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)no absent
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)no absent
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDemabsent aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)absent aye
Piara S KhabraEaling, SouthallLab (minister)aye absent
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Michael MatesEast HampshireCon (front bench)no absent
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLab (minister)absent no
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)aye absent
Ian StewartEcclesLab (minister)absent no
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabaye absent
Mark LazarowiczEdinburgh North and LeithLababsent no
Colin BurgonElmetLab (minister)aye absent
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)aye absent
Eric JoyceFalkirkLab (minister)absent no
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabno absent
Mark DurkanFoyleSDLP (front bench)no absent
David MarshallGlasgow EastLab (minister)aye absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Tom HarrisGlasgow SouthLab (minister)absent no
Ian DavidsonGlasgow South WestLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)aye absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLababsent aye
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)aye absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)absent aye
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)no absent
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabaye aye
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)aye absent
Michael Jabez FosterHastings and RyeLab (minister)absent no
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Boris JohnsonHenleyCon (front bench)no absent
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)no absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)no absent
Francis MaudeHorshamCon (front bench)no absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)aye absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Ann CryerKeighleyLab (minister)absent no
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLab (minister)aye absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)aye absent
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)aye absent
Keith VazLeicester EastLabaye aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)aye absent
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)aye aye
Michael ConnartyLinlithgow and East FalkirkLab (minister)absent no
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabaye absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labno absent
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)aye aye
Nicholas WintertonMacclesfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Graham StringerManchester, BlackleyLab (minister)absent no
Gerald KaufmanManchester, GortonLab (minister)absent no
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)no absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)aye absent
David HamiltonMidlothianLab (minister)absent no
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLabno no
Colin ChallenMorley and RothwellLab (minister)no no
Frank RoyMotherwell and WishawLab (minister)absent no
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)no absent
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabaye absent
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)aye aye
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)no absent
Ian PaisleyNorth AntrimDUP (front bench)no absent
Robert WalterNorth DorsetConno absent
Alistair BurtNorth East BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no absent
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)no absent
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)no absent
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabaye absent
Shailesh VaraNorth West CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)no absent
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)no absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)no absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Graham AllenNottingham NorthLababsent no
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLababsent aye
Gordon BanksOchil and South PerthshireLab (minister)absent no
Derek ConwayOld Bexley and Sidcupwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)no absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)no absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
Gordon PrenticePendleLab (minister)no no
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)absent aye
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)no absent
Paul TruswellPudseyLababsent aye
Martin SalterReading WestLabaye absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConno absent
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)no absent
James DuddridgeRochford and Southend EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)no absent
Charles KennedyRoss, Skye and LochaberLDemno absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabaye absent
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)no absent
John GreenwayRyedaleConno absent
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
John GroganSelbyLab (minister)no no
Clive BettsSheffield, AttercliffeLab (minister)absent no
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)aye absent
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
Richard BaconSouth NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)aye absent
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)no absent
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDem (front bench)absent aye
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)aye absent
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)no absent
Iris RobinsonStrangfordDUPno absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)no absent
David DrewStroudLab (minister)absent no
John GummerSuffolk CoastalConabsent aye
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabno absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)aye absent
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)no absent
David SimpsonUpper BannDUP (front bench)no absent
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)aye aye
Denis MurphyWansbeckLababsent no
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)aye absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)no absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)aye absent
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)aye absent
Mark OatenWinchesterLDemno absent
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)no absent
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 645 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 22 voted the same way, with 435 voting in opposite ways. There were 27 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 161 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
435
(435 + 22 + 0.2x161)
=
435
489.2
= 0.889 = 88.9 %.


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