Comparison of Divisions: Support for Members Who Have Chosen Not to Take Their Seats — 8 Feb 2006 at 17:59 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) : Support for Members Who Have Chosen Not to Take Their Seats - 8 Feb 2006 at 17:59 - Division No. 156

This amendment, which was passed, halves from a year to six months the period of time for which Sinn Féin MPs forfeited their entitlement to expenses (around £40,000-worth) for refusing to take their seats (which involves swearing an oath of allegiance to the Queen). From 1st November 2005 new arrangements for paying expenses to non-sitting MPs were made according to the previous vote. The text of this amendment reads:
That the Resolution of the House of 10th March 2005 relating to Support for Members who have chosen not to take their Seats be amended by substituting for the words 'a period of suspension of one year commencing on 1st April' the words 'the period 1st April 2005 to 31st October'

The House divided: Ayes 329, Noes 178.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by constituency

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLab (minister)aye absent
Gerald HowarthAldershotCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard ShepherdAldridge-BrownhillsCon (front bench)absent aye
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)aye tellaye
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)aye absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)aye absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)aye absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)aye absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)aye absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)aye absent
Don FosterBathLDem (front bench)aye aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabaye aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)aye absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)aye absent
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)aye aye
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Gregory BarkerBexhill and BattleCon (front bench)absent aye
John BaronBillericayCon (front bench)absent aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)aye absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLab (minister)aye absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)aye absent
John HemmingBirmingham, YardleyLDem (front bench)aye aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)absent aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)aye aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
David TredinnickBosworthConabsent aye
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)no absent
Terry RooneyBradford NorthLab (minister)absent no
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)aye absent
Sarah TeatherBrent EastLDem (front bench)absent aye
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)aye aye
David LepperBrighton, PavilionLab (minister)absent no
Kerry McCarthyBristol EastLab (minister)absent no
Doug NaysmithBristol North WestLab (minister)absent no
Stephen WilliamsBristol WestLDem (front bench)aye aye
Eric ForthBromley and ChislehurstCon (front bench)no absent
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstConabsent aye
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)no absent
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)aye aye
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)absent aye
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)absent aye
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabaye absent
Harriet HarmanCamberwell and PeckhamLab (minister)absent no
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDem (front bench)absent aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)absent aye
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)aye aye
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Iain Duncan SmithChingford and Woodford GreenConabsent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)aye absent
Christopher ChopeChristchurchCon (front bench)absent aye
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)aye aye
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
Ann WintertonCongletonCon (front bench)absent aye
Betty WilliamsConwyLabaye absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)aye absent
Gwyneth DunwoodyCrewe and NantwichLab (minister)no absent
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLab (minister)aye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Conno absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independentabsent aye
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabaye absent
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)no absent
Michael AncramDevizesCon (front bench)absent aye
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLabaye absent
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)no absent
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDemabsent aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Piara S KhabraEaling, SouthallLab (minister)aye absent
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Michael MatesEast HampshireCon (front bench)no absent
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLab (minister)absent no
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)aye absent
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)absent aye
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabaye absent
John BarrettEdinburgh WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Andrew LoveEdmontonLab (minister)absent no
Colin BurgonElmetLab (minister)aye absent
Ian TaylorEsher and WaltonConabsent aye
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)aye aye
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)no absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)aye absent
John MacDougallGlenrothesLab (minister)aye absent
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Peter ViggersGosportCon (front bench)absent aye
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)aye absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabaye aye
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)aye absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)aye aye
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)no absent
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabaye aye
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)aye absent
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDem (front bench)absent aye
Michael Jabez FosterHastings and RyeLab (minister)absent no
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabaye aye
Andrew StunellHazel GroveLDem (front bench)absent aye
Andrew DismoreHendonLab (minister)absent no
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Boris JohnsonHenleyCon (front bench)no absent
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)aye absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)aye absent
Peter LilleyHitchin and HarpendenConabsent aye
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDem (front bench)aye aye
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)aye absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Danny AlexanderInverness, Nairn, Badenoch and StrathspeyLDem (front bench)aye aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabaye aye
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)aye aye
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLab (minister)aye absent
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)aye absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLabaye aye
Norman BakerLewesLDemaye aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)aye absent
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)absent aye
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabaye absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labaye absent
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)aye aye
Philip DunneLudlowCon (front bench)absent aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdCon (front bench)absent aye
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Alan MealeMansfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabaye aye
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)absent aye
Caroline SpelmanMeridenCon (front bench)absent aye
Annette BrookeMid Dorset and North PooleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)no absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)aye absent
David DaviesMonmouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLababsent no
Jim CousinsNewcastle upon Tyne CentralLab (minister)absent no
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)aye aye
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)aye absent
Ian PaisleyNorth AntrimDUP (front bench)no absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)aye absent
Dan RogersonNorth CornwallLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
James ArbuthnotNorth East HampshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)no absent
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)no absent
Simon HughesNorth Southwark and BermondseyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabaye absent
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)no absent
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)no absent
Steve WebbNorthavonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLabaye absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabaye aye
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabaye absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)no absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)absent aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLababsent aye
Justine GreeningPutneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Martin SalterReading WestLabaye absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabaye absent
Nick HurdRuislip - NorthwoodCon (front bench)absent aye
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)no absent
Robert KeySalisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Tony BlairSedgefieldLab (minister)aye absent
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)aye absent
Derek WyattSittingbourne and SheppeyLab (minister)absent no
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConaye aye
Lorely BurtSolihullLDem (front bench)absent aye
Andrew LansleySouth CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark ToddSouth DerbyshireLab (minister)absent no
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)aye absent
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)aye absent
Gary StreeterSouth West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Jeremy HuntSouth West SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)no absent
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDem (front bench)aye aye
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)aye absent
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabaye aye
Iris RobinsonStrangfordDUPno absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)no absent
John GummerSuffolk CoastalConabsent aye
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)aye absent
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)aye aye
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)no absent
Paul MurphyTorfaenLab (minister)absent no
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemaye aye
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
David SimpsonUpper BannDUP (front bench)no absent
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)aye aye
Denis MurphyWansbeckLababsent no
John SpellarWarleyLababsent no
Helen JonesWarrington NorthLab (minister)absent no
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)aye absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)no absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)aye absent
John McFallWest DunbartonshireLab (minister)absent no
John PenroseWeston-Super-MareCon (front bench)absent aye
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)aye absent
Ben ChapmanWirral SouthLab (minister)absent no
Stephen HesfordWirral WestLab (minister)absent no
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)absent aye
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)aye aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 645 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 40 voted the same way, with 376 voting in opposite ways. There were 43 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 186 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
376
(376 + 40 + 0.2x186)
=
376
453.2
= 0.830 = 83.0 %.


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