Comparison of Divisions: Support for Members Who Have Chosen Not to Take Their Seats — 8 Feb 2006 at 17:59 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) : Support for Members Who Have Chosen Not to Take Their Seats - 8 Feb 2006 at 17:59 - Division No. 156

This amendment, which was passed, halves from a year to six months the period of time for which Sinn Féin MPs forfeited their entitlement to expenses (around £40,000-worth) for refusing to take their seats (which involves swearing an oath of allegiance to the Queen). From 1st November 2005 new arrangements for paying expenses to non-sitting MPs were made according to the previous vote. The text of this amendment reads:
That the Resolution of the House of 10th March 2005 relating to Support for Members who have chosen not to take their Seats be amended by substituting for the words 'a period of suspension of one year commencing on 1st April' the words 'the period 1st April 2005 to 31st October'

The House divided: Ayes 329, Noes 178.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by name

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabaye aye
Danny AlexanderInverness, Nairn, Badenoch and StrathspeyLDem (front bench)aye aye
Michael AncramDevizesCon (front bench)absent aye
James ArbuthnotNorth East HampshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)aye absent
Norman BakerLewesLDemaye aye
Gregory BarkerBexhill and BattleCon (front bench)absent aye
John BaronBillericayCon (front bench)absent aye
John BarrettEdinburgh WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)aye aye
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)aye absent
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)no absent
Tony BlairSedgefieldLab (minister)aye absent
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)no absent
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Annette BrookeMid Dorset and North PooleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Colin BurgonElmetLab (minister)aye absent
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Lorely BurtSolihullLDem (front bench)absent aye
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)no absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabaye absent
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLab (minister)aye absent
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye absent
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)aye aye
Ben ChapmanWirral SouthLab (minister)absent no
Christopher ChopeChristchurchCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)aye absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)aye absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)no absent
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)absent aye
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabaye aye
Jim CousinsNewcastle upon Tyne CentralLab (minister)absent no
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabaye absent
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLab (minister)aye absent
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
David DaviesMonmouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)no absent
Andrew DismoreHendonLab (minister)absent no
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)aye absent
Iain Duncan SmithChingford and Woodford GreenConabsent aye
Philip DunneLudlowCon (front bench)absent aye
Gwyneth DunwoodyCrewe and NantwichLab (minister)no absent
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)aye aye
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDem (front bench)aye aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabaye aye
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)aye absent
Eric ForthBromley and ChislehurstCon (front bench)no absent
Don FosterBathLDem (front bench)aye aye
Michael Jabez FosterHastings and RyeLab (minister)absent no
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDem (front bench)aye aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)aye aye
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLabaye absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)aye aye
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)no absent
Justine GreeningPutneyCon (front bench)absent aye
John GummerSuffolk CoastalConabsent aye
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)aye absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)aye absent
Harriet HarmanCamberwell and PeckhamLab (minister)absent no
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)no absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)no absent
John HemmingBirmingham, YardleyLDem (front bench)aye aye
Stephen HesfordWirral WestLab (minister)absent no
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)aye absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)aye absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)aye absent
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConaye aye
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)aye absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)aye aye
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)no absent
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Gerald HowarthAldershotCon (front bench)absent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)aye absent
Simon HughesNorth Southwark and BermondseyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)absent aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)absent aye
Jeremy HuntSouth West SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)aye aye
Nick HurdRuislip - NorthwoodCon (front bench)absent aye
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLab (minister)absent no
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)no absent
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabaye aye
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)aye absent
Boris JohnsonHenleyCon (front bench)no absent
Helen JonesWarrington NorthLab (minister)absent no
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)aye absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)aye absent
Robert KeySalisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Piara S KhabraEaling, SouthallLab (minister)aye absent
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabaye absent
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)no absent
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)aye absent
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Andrew LansleySouth CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)aye aye
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
David LepperBrighton, PavilionLab (minister)absent no
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Peter LilleyHitchin and HarpendenConabsent aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)aye absent
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)absent aye
Andrew LoveEdmontonLab (minister)absent no
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)no absent
John MacDougallGlenrothesLab (minister)aye absent
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)aye aye
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabaye absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLab (minister)aye absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)aye absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)no absent
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)aye aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabaye aye
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Michael MatesEast HampshireCon (front bench)no absent
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabaye absent
Kerry McCarthyBristol EastLab (minister)absent no
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabaye aye
John McFallWest DunbartonshireLab (minister)absent no
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)aye absent
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)aye aye
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabaye absent
Alan MealeMansfieldLab (minister)aye absent
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)aye absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLabaye absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)aye absent
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)no absent
Denis MurphyWansbeckLababsent no
Paul MurphyTorfaenLab (minister)absent no
Doug NaysmithBristol North WestLab (minister)absent no
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstConabsent aye
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)aye absent
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian PaisleyNorth AntrimDUP (front bench)no absent
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)aye aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)no absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Conno absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independentabsent aye
John PenroseWeston-Super-MareCon (front bench)absent aye
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)absent aye
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)aye absent
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)aye absent
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLab (minister)aye absent
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)absent aye
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)aye absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)aye aye
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)aye absent
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)aye tellaye
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLab (minister)aye absent
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDemabsent aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)aye aye
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)aye absent
Iris RobinsonStrangfordDUPno absent
Dan RogersonNorth CornwallLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Terry RooneyBradford NorthLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Martin SalterReading WestLabaye absent
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Richard ShepherdAldridge-BrownhillsCon (front bench)absent aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabaye aye
David SimpsonUpper BannDUP (front bench)no absent
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)aye absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLababsent no
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)aye absent
John SpellarWarleyLababsent no
Caroline SpelmanMeridenCon (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)no absent
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabaye absent
Gary StreeterSouth West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)aye absent
Andrew StunellHazel GroveLDem (front bench)absent aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
Ian TaylorEsher and WaltonConabsent aye
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemaye aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)absent aye
Sarah TeatherBrent EastLDem (front bench)absent aye
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)absent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)aye absent
Mark ToddSouth DerbyshireLab (minister)absent no
David TredinnickBosworthConabsent aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLababsent aye
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)aye absent
Keith VazLeicester EastLabaye aye
Peter ViggersGosportCon (front bench)absent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labaye absent
Steve WebbNorthavonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdCon (front bench)absent aye
Betty WilliamsConwyLabaye absent
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)absent aye
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)absent aye
Stephen WilliamsBristol WestLDem (front bench)aye aye
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDem (front bench)absent aye
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDem (front bench)absent aye
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)no absent
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
Ann WintertonCongletonCon (front bench)absent aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)absent aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabaye aye
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)aye absent
Derek WyattSittingbourne and SheppeyLab (minister)absent no
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 645 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 40 voted the same way, with 376 voting in opposite ways. There were 43 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 186 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
376
(376 + 40 + 0.2x186)
=
376
453.2
= 0.830 = 83.0 %.


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