Comparison of Divisions: Government of Wales Bill — [1st Allotted Day] — Clause 27 — Assembly Commission — 27 Feb 2006 at 19:00 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Government of Wales Bill — [1st Allotted Day] — Clause 27 — Assembly Commission - 27 Feb 2006 at 19:00 - Division No. 174

I beg to move amendment No. 30, in page 17, line 17, at end insert

'not belonging to the same political group.'.

Question put, That the amendment be made:-

The House divided: Ayes 179, Noes 269.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by constituency

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)no absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
David LidingtonAylesburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)no absent
Jeff EnnisBarnsley East and MexboroughLab (minister)absent no
Angela SmithBasildonLab (minister)absent no
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabno aye
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)absent aye
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Graham StuartBeverley and HoldernessCon (front bench)absent aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Clare ShortBirmingham, Ladywoodwhilst Labno absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLab (minister)no absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabno absent
John HemmingBirmingham, YardleyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Helen GoodmanBishop AucklandLab (minister)absent no
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)absent no
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)no aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
David AndersonBlaydonLab (minister)absent no
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Joe BentonBootleLab (minister)absent no
David TredinnickBosworthConabsent aye
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)aye absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)tellaye absent
Barry GardinerBrent NorthLab (minister)absent no
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Doug NaysmithBristol North WestLab (minister)absent no
Stephen WilliamsBristol WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Eric ForthBromley and ChislehurstCon (front bench)aye absent
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstConabsent aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)absent aye
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)absent aye
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabno absent
Harriet HarmanCamberwell and PeckhamLab (minister)absent no
Tony WrightCannock ChaseLab (minister)absent no
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)absent aye
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)absent aye
Stephen DorrellCharnwoodCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)absent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Mark FieldCities of London and WestminsterCon (front bench)absent aye
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)no aye
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
Tom ClarkeCoatbridge, Chryston and BellshillLababsent no
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)no absent
Phil HopeCorbyLab (minister)absent no
Laura MoffattCrawleyLababsent no
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Conaye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independentabsent aye
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabno absent
David HansonDelynLab (minister)absent no
Caroline FlintDon ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLabno absent
Tessa JowellDulwich and West NorwoodLab (minister)absent no
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)aye absent
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)no aye
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Stephen TimmsEast HamLab (minister)absent no
Michael MatesEast HampshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Peter AinsworthEast SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
Greg KnightEast YorkshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabno absent
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
John BarrettEdinburgh WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Colin BurgonElmetLab (minister)no absent
Joan RyanEnfield NorthLab (minister)absent no
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)no absent
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConabsent aye
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)aye absent
David MarshallGlasgow EastLab (minister)no absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Ann McKechinGlasgow NorthLab (minister)absent no
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)no absent
John MacDougallGlenrothesLab (minister)no absent
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)no absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLababsent aye
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)no absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)no aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabno aye
Edward GarnierHarboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDem (front bench)absent aye
Iain WrightHartlepoolLab (minister)absent no
David WillettsHavantCon (front bench)absent aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabno aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Boris JohnsonHenleyCon (front bench)aye absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Peter LilleyHitchin and HarpendenConabsent aye
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)no absent
Lee ScottIlford NorthCon (front bench)absent aye
David CairnsInverclydeLab (minister)absent no
Danny AlexanderInverness, Nairn, Badenoch and StrathspeyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLababsent aye
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaConabsent aye
Des BrowneKilmarnock and LoudounLab (minister)absent no
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLab (minister)no absent
Alan JohnsonKingston upon Hull West and HessleLab (minister)absent no
Roger BerryKingswoodLab (minister)absent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)no absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)no absent
George MudieLeeds EastLab (minister)absent no
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)no absent
Keith VazLeicester EastLababsent aye
Bill WigginLeominsterCon (front bench)absent aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
Joan RuddockLewisham, DeptfordLab (minister)absent no
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabno absent
Jane KennedyLiverpool, WavertreeLab (minister)absent no
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)no aye
Peter TapsellLouth and HorncastleConabsent aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLab (minister)absent no
John WhittingdaleMaldon and East ChelmsfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Graham StringerManchester, BlackleyLab (minister)absent no
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLababsent aye
Keith SimpsonMid NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)no absent
David HamiltonMidlothianLab (minister)absent no
Siobhain McDonaghMitcham and MordenLab (minister)absent no
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
Peter HainNeathLab (minister)absent no
Jim CousinsNewcastle upon Tyne CentralLab (minister)absent no
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabno absent
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)absent aye
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Robert WalterNorth DorsetConaye absent
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)absent aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)aye absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLabno absent
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLababsent aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Douglas AlexanderPaisley and Renfrewshire SouthLab (minister)absent no
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Linda GilroyPlymouth, SuttonLab (minister)absent no
Jim FitzpatrickPoplar and Canning TownLab (minister)absent no
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)aye absent
Paul TruswellPudseyLabno aye
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
Crispin BluntReigateCon (front bench)absent aye
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConaye absent
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabno absent
John GreenwayRyedaleConaye absent
Robert KeySalisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Elliot MorleyScunthorpeLab (minister)absent no
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
Michael FallonSevenoaksCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLab (minister)no absent
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)no absent
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)absent aye
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
Lorely BurtSolihullLDem (front bench)absent aye
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
James PaiceSouth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)no absent
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)no absent
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDem (front bench)absent aye
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)no absent
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)no absent
Dari TaylorStockton SouthLab (minister)absent no
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno aye
Bill CashStoneCon (front bench)absent aye
Lynda WalthoStourbridgeLab (minister)absent no
Chris MullinSunderland SouthLab (minister)absent no
Michael GoveSurrey HeathCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MitchellSutton ColdfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)absent aye
Anthony SteenTotnesCon (front bench)absent aye
David LammyTottenhamLab (minister)absent no
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemabsent aye
David ClellandTyne BridgeLab (minister)absent no
Kate HoeyVauxhallLabno aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)absent aye
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
Richard SpringWest SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)no absent
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)aye absent
Ken PurchaseWolverhampton North EastLab (minister)absent no
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestCon (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 359 voted the same way, with 20 voting in opposite ways. There were 66 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 201 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
359
(359 + 20 + 0.2x201)
=
359
419.2
= 0.856 = 85.6 %.


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