Comparison of Divisions: Government of Wales Bill — [2nd Allotted Day] — Clause 60 — Promotion etc. of well-being — 28 Feb 2006 at 17:00 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Government of Wales Bill — [2nd Allotted Day] — Clause 60 — Promotion etc. of well-being - 28 Feb 2006 at 17:00 - Division No. 176

I beg to move amendment No. 63, in page 35, line 27, leave out clause 60.

The House divided: Ayes 221, Noes 282.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by name

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabno aye
Douglas AlexanderPaisley and Renfrewshire SouthLab (minister)absent no
David AndersonBlaydonLab (minister)absent no
Hilary ArmstrongNorth West DurhamLab (minister)absent no
Ian AustinDudley NorthLababsent no
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)no absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
Norman BakerLewesLDemabsent aye
John BarrettEdinburgh WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)no absent
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)no absent
Joe BentonBootleLab (minister)absent no
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)aye absent
Hazel BlearsSalfordLab (minister)absent no
Crispin BluntReigateCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)aye absent
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Lyn BrownWest HamLab (minister)absent no
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
Colin BurgonElmetLab (minister)no absent
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)absent aye
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)aye absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabno absent
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)aye absent
Bill CashStoneCon (front bench)absent aye
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)no absent
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)tellno aye
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)aye absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Paul ClarkGillinghamLab (minister)absent no
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)aye absent
Tom ClarkeCoatbridge, Chryston and BellshillLababsent no
David ClellandTyne BridgeLab (minister)absent no
Ann ClwydCynon ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)no absent
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLababsent aye
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabno absent
Ann CryerKeighleyLab (minister)absent no
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)absent aye
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLab (minister)no absent
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
John DenhamSouthampton, ItchenLab (minister)absent no
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Gwyneth DunwoodyCrewe and NantwichLab (minister)no absent
Clive EffordElthamLab (minister)absent no
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConaye absent
Michael FabricantLichfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)absent aye
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno aye
Rob FlelloStoke-on-Trent SouthLab (minister)absent no
Eric ForthBromley and ChislehurstCon (front bench)aye absent
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward GarnierHarboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLabno absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Linda GilroyPlymouth, SuttonLab (minister)absent no
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabno absent
Michael GoveSurrey HeathCon (front bench)absent aye
Justine GreeningPutneyCon (front bench)absent aye
John GreenwayRyedaleConaye absent
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)aye absent
David HansonDelynLab (minister)absent no
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
John HemmingBirmingham, YardleyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabno absent
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)no absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)no absent
Kate HoeyVauxhallLabno aye
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)no absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)no absent
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)aye absent
Gerald HowarthAldershotCon (front bench)absent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Kim HowellsPontypriddLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Simon HughesNorth Southwark and BermondseyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Jeremy HuntSouth West SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
John HuttonBarrow and FurnessLab (minister)absent no
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)aye absent
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabno aye
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
Alan JohnsonKingston upon Hull West and HessleLab (minister)absent no
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
Piara S KhabraEaling, SouthallLab (minister)no absent
David KidneyStaffordLab (minister)absent no
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabno absent
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)aye absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)no absent
Stephen LadymanSouth ThanetLab (minister)absent no
David LammyTottenhamLab (minister)absent no
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)no absent
Tony LloydManchester CentralLababsent no
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)absent aye
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)aye absent
John MacDougallGlenrothesLab (minister)no absent
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)absent aye
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)aye absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabno absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLab (minister)no absent
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)aye absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)no aye
David MarshallGlasgow EastLab (minister)no absent
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabno aye
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Michael MatesEast HampshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabno absent
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLab (minister)absent no
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabno aye
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)no absent
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)no aye
Ann McKechinGlasgow NorthLab (minister)absent no
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabno absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLabno absent
Laura MoffattCrawleyLababsent no
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)absent aye
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Chris MullinSunderland SouthLab (minister)absent no
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)aye absent
Paul MurphyTorfaenLab (minister)absent no
Doug NaysmithBristol North WestLab (minister)absent no
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstConabsent aye
Mike O'BrienNorth WarwickshireLab (minister)absent no
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)no absent
Mark OatenWinchesterLDemaye absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Ian PaisleyNorth AntrimDUP (front bench)aye absent
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Conaye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independentabsent aye
Mike PenningHemel HempsteadCon (front bench)absent aye
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)absent aye
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)no absent
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)no aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
Ken PurchaseWolverhampton North EastLab (minister)absent no
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)no absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)no aye
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)no absent
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLab (minister)no absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)no aye
Andrew RobathanBlabyCon (front bench)absent aye
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)no absent
Iris RobinsonStrangfordDUPaye absent
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)aye absent
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Joan RuddockLewisham, DeptfordLab (minister)absent no
Alex SalmondBanff and BuchanSNP (front bench)aye absent
Martin SalterReading WestLabno absent
Grant ShappsWelwyn HatfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Richard ShepherdAldridge-BrownhillsCon (front bench)absent aye
Clare ShortBirmingham, Ladywoodwhilst Labno absent
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLababsent aye
Keith SimpsonMid NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Angela SmithBasildonLab (minister)absent no
John SmithVale of GlamorganLab (minister)absent no
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)no absent
Caroline SpelmanMeridenCon (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabno absent
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)absent no
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)absent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)no absent
Don TouhigIslwynLab (minister)absent no
David TredinnickBosworthConabsent aye
Jon TrickettHemsworthLab (minister)absent no
Paul TruswellPudseyLabno aye
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)no absent
Keith VazLeicester EastLabno aye
Robert WalterNorth DorsetConaye absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Tom WatsonWest Bromwich EastLab (minister)absent no
Steve WebbNorthavonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdCon (front bench)absent aye
David WillettsHavantCon (front bench)absent aye
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)aye absent
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabno aye
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Iain WrightHartlepoolLab (minister)absent no
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 392 voted the same way, with 22 voting in opposite ways. There were 46 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 186 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
392
(392 + 22 + 0.2x186)
=
392
451.2
= 0.869 = 86.9 %.


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