Comparison of Divisions: Government of Wales Bill — [2nd Allotted Day] — New Clause 12 — Business scheme — 28 Feb 2006 at 21:50 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Government of Wales Bill — [2nd Allotted Day] — New Clause 12 — Business scheme - 28 Feb 2006 at 21:50 - Division No. 181

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read the Third time.

If I may say so, Madam Deputy Speaker, to have a daughter of Wales in the Chair at this time is indeed most appropriate.

Question put, That the Bill be now read the Third time:-

The House divided: Ayes 324, Noes 143.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by constituency

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLab (minister)aye absent
Gerald HowarthAldershotCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard ShepherdAldridge-BrownhillsCon (front bench)absent aye
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)aye aye
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)aye absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)aye absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)aye absent
John HuttonBarrow and FurnessLab (minister)absent no
Angela SmithBasildonLab (minister)absent no
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)aye absent
Don FosterBathLDem (front bench)aye aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabaye aye
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)aye absent
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPaye aye
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)aye aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)aye aye
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)aye aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)aye absent
Steve McCabeBirmingham, Hall GreenLab (minister)absent no
Clare ShortBirmingham, Ladywoodwhilst Labaye absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLab (minister)aye absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)aye absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabaye absent
John HemmingBirmingham, YardleyLDem (front bench)aye aye
Andrew RobathanBlabyCon (front bench)absent aye
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)absent no
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)aye aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)aye aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
David AndersonBlaydonLab (minister)absent no
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
Ruth KellyBolton WestLab (minister)absent no
Joe BentonBootleLab (minister)absent no
Terry RooneyBradford NorthLab (minister)absent no
Sarah TeatherBrent EastLDem (front bench)aye aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)aye aye
Doug NaysmithBristol North WestLab (minister)absent no
Stephen WilliamsBristol WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Eric ForthBromley and ChislehurstCon (front bench)no absent
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstConabsent aye
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)no absent
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)aye aye
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)aye aye
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)absent aye
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabaye absent
Harriet HarmanCamberwell and PeckhamLab (minister)absent no
David HowarthCambridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Tony WrightCannock ChaseLab (minister)absent no
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDem (front bench)aye aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)absent aye
Alun MichaelCardiff South and PenarthLab (minister)absent no
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)aye aye
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)aye aye
Jonathan R ShawChatham and AylesfordLab (minister)absent no
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)aye aye
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDem (front bench)aye aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)absent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)aye absent
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)aye aye
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Tom ClarkeCoatbridge, Chryston and BellshillLababsent no
Bob RussellColchesterLDem (front bench)aye aye
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabaye absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)aye absent
Gwyneth DunwoodyCrewe and NantwichLab (minister)aye absent
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLab (minister)aye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independentabsent aye
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Ann ClwydCynon ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabaye absent
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)no absent
Michael AncramDevizesCon (front bench)absent aye
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLabaye absent
Ian AustinDudley NorthLababsent no
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)no absent
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)aye absent
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDemaye aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Piara S KhabraEaling, SouthallLab (minister)aye absent
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Hugo SwireEast DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael MatesEast HampshireCon (front bench)no absent
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)aye aye
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)aye aye
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabaye absent
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
John BarrettEdinburgh WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Colin BurgonElmetLab (minister)aye absent
Eleanor LaingEpping ForestCon (front bench)absent aye
Chris GraylingEpsom and EwellCon (front bench)absent aye
Liz BlackmanErewashLab (minister)absent no
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)aye absent
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)aye aye
Hugh RobertsonFaversham and Mid KentCon (front bench)absent aye
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabaye absent
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConabsent aye
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)no absent
Edward LeighGainsboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul ClarkGillinghamLab (minister)absent no
David MarshallGlasgow EastLab (minister)aye absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Ann McKechinGlasgow NorthLab (minister)absent no
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)aye absent
John MacDougallGlenrothesLab (minister)aye absent
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)aye absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLababsent aye
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)aye absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)aye aye
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)no absent
Derek TwiggHaltonLab (minister)absent no
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabaye aye
Edward GarnierHarboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)aye absent
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDem (front bench)absent aye
Tony McNultyHarrow EastLab (minister)absent no
Iain WrightHartlepoolLab (minister)absent no
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabaye aye
Andrew StunellHazel GroveLDem (front bench)aye aye
Mike PenningHemel HempsteadCon (front bench)absent aye
Jon TrickettHemsworthLab (minister)absent no
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Boris JohnsonHenleyCon (front bench)no absent
Mark PriskHertford and StortfordCon (front bench)absent aye
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)no absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)aye absent
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDem (front bench)aye aye
Barry SheermanHuddersfieldLab (minister)absent no
Jonathan DjanoglyHuntingdonCon (front bench)absent aye
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)aye absent
Danny AlexanderInverness, Nairn, Badenoch and StrathspeyLDem (front bench)aye aye
Andrew TurnerIsle of WightCon (front bench)absent aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLababsent aye
Don TouhigIslwynLab (minister)absent no
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)absent aye
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLab (minister)aye absent
Alan JohnsonKingston upon Hull West and HessleLab (minister)absent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)aye aye
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)aye absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)aye absent
Keith VazLeicester EastLabaye aye
Norman BakerLewesLDemabsent aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)aye absent
Joan RuddockLewisham, DeptfordLab (minister)absent no
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)aye aye
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabaye absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)aye aye
Peter TapsellLouth and HorncastleConabsent aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLab (minister)absent no
Tony LloydManchester CentralLababsent no
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Alan MealeMansfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabaye aye
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)absent aye
Caroline SpelmanMeridenCon (front bench)absent aye
Annette BrookeMid Dorset and North PooleLDem (front bench)aye aye
Keith SimpsonMid NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas SoamesMid SussexCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)no absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)aye absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)aye absent
Patrick MercerNewarkCon (front bench)absent aye
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabaye absent
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)absent aye
Ian PaisleyNorth AntrimDUP (front bench)both absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)aye absent
Dan RogersonNorth CornwallLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Robert WalterNorth DorsetConno absent
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye
Alistair BurtNorth East BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no absent
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)aye aye
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)no absent
Bernard JenkinNorth EssexCon (front bench)absent aye
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)aye aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)no absent
Simon HughesNorth Southwark and BermondseyLDem (front bench)aye aye
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabaye absent
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)aye both
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)no absent
Steve WebbNorthavonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLabaye absent
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabaye aye
Bill OlnerNuneatonLab (minister)absent no
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabaye absent
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)aye absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Douglas AlexanderPaisley and Renfrewshire SouthLab (minister)absent no
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)aye aye
Yvette CooperPontefract and CastlefordLab (minister)absent no
Kim HowellsPontypriddLab (minister)absent no
Paul TruswellPudseyLabaye aye
Martin SalterReading WestLabaye absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Crispin BluntReigateCon (front bench)absent aye
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConno absent
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)aye absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabaye absent
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)absent aye
John GreenwayRyedaleConno absent
Hazel BlearsSalfordLab (minister)absent no
Robert KeySalisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLab (minister)aye absent
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLababsent no
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)aye absent
Derek WyattSittingbourne and SheppeyLab (minister)absent no
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)absent aye
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
Lorely BurtSolihullLDem (front bench)aye aye
David HeathSomerton and FromeLDem (front bench)aye aye
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Andrew LansleySouth CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)absent aye
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)aye absent
John PughSouthportLDem (front bench)absent aye
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)no absent
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDem (front bench)aye aye
David KidneyStaffordLab (minister)absent no
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)aye absent
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabaye aye
Bill CashStoneCon (front bench)absent aye
Iris RobinsonStrangfordDUPboth absent
John GummerSuffolk CoastalConabsent aye
Chris MullinSunderland SouthLab (minister)absent no
Michael GoveSurrey HeathCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)aye absent
Alan WilliamsSwansea WestLab (minister)absent no
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)absent aye
Sadiq KhanTootingLab (minister)absent no
Adrian SandersTorbayLDemaye aye
Paul MurphyTorfaenLab (minister)absent no
David LammyTottenhamLab (minister)absent no
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemabsent aye
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)aye aye
John SmithVale of GlamorganLab (minister)absent no
Kate HoeyVauxhallLababsent aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)aye aye
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)aye absent
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)aye aye
Tom WatsonWest Bromwich EastLab (minister)absent no
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)aye absent
Lyn BrownWest HamLab (minister)absent no
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)aye absent
Stephen HammondWimbledonCon (front bench)absent aye
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)no absent
Ken PurchaseWolverhampton North EastLab (minister)absent no
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)absent aye
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)aye aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 60 voted the same way, with 318 voting in opposite ways. There were 50 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 218 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
318
(318 + 60 + 0.2x218)
=
318
421.6
= 0.754 = 75.4 %.


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