Comparison of Divisions: Identity Cards Bill — 21 Mar 2006 at 17:45 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Identity Cards Bill - 21 Mar 2006 at 17:45 - Division No. 198

I beg to move, That this House does not insist on its Amendments 22E and 22F but disagrees with the Lords in their Amendments 22G and 22H.

I should say, first, that I am very pleased that their lordships have now dropped their outright opposition to the designation power in the Bill by dropping their previous amendments Nos. 16 and 22. That is very good news and an important development. However, the amendments in lieu are not a real compromise as they would simply delay the power to link the issue of identity cards to designated documents, such as passports, until 2012. That is unacceptable and it would not be right to allow the other place to delay the implementation of legislation that it dislikes until five years have passed. That is a deliberate plan for delay and destruction of the process in the Identity Cards Bill.

The House having divided: Ayes 284, Noes 241.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by constituency

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLab (minister)aye absent
Gerald HowarthAldershotCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard ShepherdAldridge-BrownhillsCon (front bench)absent aye
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)aye absent
David LidingtonAylesburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)aye absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)aye absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Angela SmithBasildonLab (minister)absent no
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)aye absent
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)aye absent
Graham StuartBeverley and HoldernessCon (front bench)absent aye
David EvennettBexleyheath and CrayfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)aye absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)aye absent
Clare ShortBirmingham, Ladywoodwhilst Labno absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLab (minister)aye absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabaye absent
Helen GoodmanBishop AucklandLab (minister)absent no
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)aye aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)aye aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
David TredinnickBosworthConabsent aye
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)no absent
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)aye absent
Madeleine MoonBridgendLab (minister)absent no
Ian Liddell-GraingerBridgwaterCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)aye aye
David LepperBrighton, PavilionLab (minister)absent no
Eric ForthBromley and ChislehurstCon (front bench)no absent
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstConabsent aye
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)no absent
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)aye aye
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabaye absent
Tony WrightCannock ChaseLab (minister)absent no
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDem (front bench)absent aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)absent aye
Eric MartlewCarlisleLab (minister)absent no
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)absent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)aye absent
Christopher ChopeChristchurchCon (front bench)absent aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)aye aye
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Tom ClarkeCoatbridge, Chryston and BellshillLababsent no
Betty WilliamsConwyLabaye absent
Geoffrey Clifton-BrownCotswoldCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLab (minister)aye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Conno absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independentabsent aye
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabaye absent
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)no absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLabaye absent
Tessa JowellDulwich and West NorwoodLab (minister)absent no
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)no absent
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Piara S KhabraEaling, SouthallLab (minister)aye absent
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Michael MatesEast HampshireCon (front bench)no absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)aye absent
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabno absent
Andrew LoveEdmontonLab (minister)absent no
Colin BurgonElmetLab (minister)aye absent
Clive EffordElthamLab (minister)absent no
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)aye absent
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)absent aye
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabaye absent
Mark DurkanFoyleSDLP (front bench)no absent
David MarshallGlasgow EastLab (minister)aye absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)aye absent
Ian DavidsonGlasgow South WestLab (minister)absent no
John MacDougallGlenrothesLab (minister)aye absent
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)aye absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLababsent aye
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)aye absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)absent aye
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)no absent
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)aye absent
Gareth ThomasHarrow WestLab (minister)absent no
Mike PenningHemel HempsteadCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew DismoreHendonLab (minister)absent no
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Boris JohnsonHenleyCon (front bench)no absent
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)no absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)no absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)aye absent
Tom LevittHigh PeakLab (minister)absent no
Francis MaudeHorshamCon (front bench)no absent
Fraser KempHoughton and Washington EastLababsent no
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)aye absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Ann CryerKeighleyLab (minister)absent no
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLab (minister)aye absent
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
George MudieLeeds EastLab (minister)absent no
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)aye absent
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)aye absent
Keith VazLeicester EastLabaye aye
Peter SoulsbyLeicester SouthLab (minister)absent no
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)aye absent
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)aye aye
Louise EllmanLiverpool, RiversideLab (minister)absent no
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabaye absent
Jane KennedyLiverpool, WavertreeLab (minister)absent no
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labno absent
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)aye aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)absent aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdCon (front bench)absent aye
Graham StringerManchester, BlackleyLab (minister)absent no
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Annette BrookeMid Dorset and North PooleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)no absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)aye absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLababsent no
Peter HainNeathLab (minister)absent no
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)aye aye
Dan RogersonNorth CornwallLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Robert WalterNorth DorsetConno absent
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)aye aye
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no absent
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)no absent
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)no absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabaye absent
Shailesh VaraNorth West CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)absent both
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)no absent
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)no absent
Steve WebbNorthavonLDemabsent aye
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLabaye absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Graham AllenNottingham NorthLababsent no
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLababsent aye
Derek ConwayOld Bexley and Sidcupwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)no absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)no absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Gordon PrenticePendleLab (minister)absent no
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)no absent
Paul TruswellPudseyLababsent aye
Martin SalterReading WestLabaye absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLabaye absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConno absent
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)no absent
James DuddridgeRochford and Southend EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew RosindellRomfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Charles KennedyRoss, Skye and LochaberLDemno absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabaye absent
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)no absent
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)absent aye
Robert GoodwillScarborough and WhitbyCon (front bench)absent aye
Elliot MorleyScunthorpeLab (minister)absent no
Tony BlairSedgefieldLab (minister)aye absent
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)aye absent
Daniel KawczynskiShrewsbury and AtchamCon (front bench)absent aye
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)absent aye
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)aye absent
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)aye absent
Christopher FraserSouth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)aye absent
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Iris RobinsonStrangfordDUPno absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)no absent
David DrewStroudLab (minister)absent no
John GummerSuffolk CoastalConabsent aye
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)aye absent
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)aye aye
David ClellandTyne BridgeLab (minister)absent no
David SimpsonUpper BannDUP (front bench)no absent
John SmithVale of GlamorganLab (minister)absent no
Mary CreaghWakefieldLab (minister)absent no
David WinnickWalsall NorthLab (minister)absent no
Bruce GeorgeWalsall SouthLababsent no
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)absent aye
Ed VaizeyWantageCon (front bench)absent aye
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)aye absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)no absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)aye absent
Michael SpicerWest WorcestershireCon (front bench)absent aye
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)aye absent
Mark OatenWinchesterLDemno absent
Stephen HesfordWirral WestLab (minister)absent no
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)no absent
Albert OwenYnys MônLab (minister)absent no

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 15 voted the same way, with 414 voting in opposite ways. There were 39 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 178 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
414
(414 + 15 + 0.2x178)
=
414
464.6
= 0.891 = 89.1 %.


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