Comparison of Divisions: Orders of the Day — Clause 260 — Derivative claims — 17 Oct 2006 at 21:00 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Orders of the Day — Clause 260 — Derivative claims - 17 Oct 2006 at 21:00 - Division No. 310

I beg to move amendment No. 412, in page 121, line 21, leave out 'or proposed'.

Question put, That the amendment be made:-

The House divided: Ayes 191, Noes 287.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by constituency

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLab (minister)no absent
Richard ShepherdAldridge-BrownhillsCon (front bench)absent aye
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)no absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)no absent
Tony BaldryBanburyConabsent aye
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)no absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)no absent
Angela SmithBasildonLab (minister)absent no
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabno aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)no absent
Dominic GrieveBeaconsfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)no aye
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)no absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)no absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabno absent
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)absent no
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)no aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
David AndersonBlaydonLab (minister)absent no
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLab (minister)no absent
David TredinnickBosworthConabsent aye
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)aye absent
Terry RooneyBradford NorthLab (minister)absent no
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)no absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Ian Liddell-GraingerBridgwaterCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)aye absent
Charles WalkerBroxbourneCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)absent aye
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabno absent
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Stephen DorrellCharnwoodCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Dame Cheryl GillanChesham and AmershamCon (front bench)absent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Christopher ChopeChristchurchCon (front bench)absent aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)no aye
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Ann WintertonCongletonCon (front bench)absent aye
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)no absent
Geoffrey RobinsonCoventry North WestLababsent no
Gwyneth DunwoodyCrewe and NantwichLab (minister)no absent
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLab (minister)no absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Conaye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independentabsent aye
Ann ClwydCynon ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabno absent
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)aye absent
Margaret BeckettDerby SouthLab (minister)absent no
Michael AncramDevizesCon (front bench)absent aye
Shahid MalikDewsburyLab (minister)absent no
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)no absent
Tessa JowellDulwich and West NorwoodLab (minister)absent no
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)aye absent
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)aye absent
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)absent aye
Piara S KhabraEaling, SouthallLab (minister)no absent
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Hugo SwireEast DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Stephen TimmsEast HamLab (minister)absent no
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)absent aye
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabno absent
Mark LazarowiczEdinburgh North and LeithLababsent no
Colin BurgonElmetLabno absent
Clive EffordElthamLab (minister)absent no
David BurrowesEnfield, SouthgateCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian TaylorEsher and WaltonConabsent aye
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabno absent
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConabsent aye
Mark DurkanFoyleSDLP (front bench)no absent
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)aye absent
Mohammad SarwarGlasgow CentralLab (minister)absent no
David MarshallGlasgow EastLab (minister)no absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)no absent
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Peter ViggersGosportCon (front bench)absent aye
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)no absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)no absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Anne MiltonGuildfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabno aye
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)no absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)no aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabno aye
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)no absent
Tony McNultyHarrow EastLab (minister)absent no
Gareth ThomasHarrow WestLab (minister)absent no
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabno aye
Mike PenningHemel HempsteadCon (front bench)absent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)aye absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Peter LilleyHitchin and HarpendenConabsent aye
Frank DobsonHolborn and St PancrasLab (minister)absent no
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)no absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)no absent
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabno aye
Emily ThornberryIslington South and FinsburyLab (minister)absent no
Stephen HepburnJarrowLab (minister)absent no
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaCon (front bench)absent aye
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)no absent
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)no absent
Ben WallaceLancaster and WyreCon (front bench)absent aye
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)no absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)no absent
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)no absent
Keith VazLeicester EastLababsent aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Maria EagleLiverpool, GarstonLab (minister)absent no
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labno absent
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)absent aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Margaret MoranLuton SouthLab (minister)absent no
Nicholas WintertonMacclesfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLab (minister)absent no
Graham StringerManchester, BlackleyLab (minister)absent no
Alan MealeMansfieldLab (minister)no absent
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabno aye
Dai HavardMerthyr Tydfil and RhymneyLab (minister)absent no
Nadine DorriesMid BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
David DaviesMonmouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Colin ChallenMorley and RothwellLab (minister)absent no
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)aye absent
Peter HainNeathLab (minister)absent no
Desmond SwayneNew Forest WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick MercerNewarkCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard BenyonNewburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabno absent
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)no aye
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)no absent
Edward BallsNormantonLab (minister)absent no
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye
Alistair BurtNorth East BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Simon HughesNorth Southwark and BermondseyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabno absent
Shailesh VaraNorth West CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Hilary ArmstrongNorth West DurhamLab (minister)absent no
George YoungNorth West HampshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
Henry BellinghamNorth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLabno absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabno absent
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabno aye
Phil WoolasOldham East and SaddleworthLab (minister)absent no
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabno absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Yvette CooperPontefract and CastlefordLab (minister)absent no
Kim HowellsPontypriddLab (minister)absent no
Paul TruswellPudseyLabno aye
Rob WilsonReading EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)no absent
Vera BairdRedcarLab (minister)absent no
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConaye absent
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)aye absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabno absent
Nick HurdRuislip - NorthwoodCon (front bench)absent aye
John GreenwayRyedaleConaye absent
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLab (minister)no absent
Clive BettsSheffield, AttercliffeLab (minister)absent no
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLababsent no
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)no absent
Philip DaviesShipleyConabsent aye
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)absent aye
Fiona MactaggartSloughLab (minister)absent no
John HayesSouth Holland and The DeepingsCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)no absent
Stephen LadymanSouth ThanetLab (minister)absent no
Gary StreeterSouth West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
David GaukeSouth West HertfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Christopher FraserSouth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
John DenhamSouthampton, ItchenLab (minister)absent no
Alan WhiteheadSouthampton, TestLab (minister)absent no
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)no absent
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)no absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno aye
Joan WalleyStoke-on-Trent NorthLab (minister)absent no
Bill CashStoneCon (front bench)absent aye
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)aye absent
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MitchellSutton ColdfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)no aye
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)aye absent
Adrian SandersTorbayLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paul MurphyTorfaenLab (minister)absent no
Anthony SteenTotnesCon (front bench)absent aye
David SimpsonUpper BannDUP (front bench)aye absent
Kate HoeyVauxhallLabno aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Denis MurphyWansbeckLab (minister)absent no
Dan NorrisWansdykeLab (minister)absent no
Ed VaizeyWantageCon (front bench)absent aye
Helen SouthworthWarrington SouthLab (minister)absent no
Claire WardWatfordLab (minister)absent tellno
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)aye absent
John HealeyWentworthLab (minister)absent no
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
Rosie CooperWest LancashireLab (minister)absent no
Mark OatenWinchesterLDemaye absent
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)absent aye
Barbara KeeleyWorsleyLab (minister)absent no
Paul GogginsWythenshawe and Sale EastLab (minister)absent no
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 362 voted the same way, with 26 voting in opposite ways. There were 43 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 215 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
362
(362 + 26 + 0.2x215)
=
362
431
= 0.840 = 84.0 %.


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