Comparison of Divisions: Orders of the Day — Clause 2 — Meaning of "relevant duty of care" — 4 Dec 2006 at 20:45 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Orders of the Day — Clause 2 — Meaning of "relevant duty of care" - 4 Dec 2006 at 20:45 - Division No. 10

I beg to move amendment No. 3, in page 2, line 20, at end insert-

'(bb) a duty owed in respect of the detention of any person in lawful custody;'.

Question put, That the amendment be made:-

The House divided: Ayes 168, Noes 288.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)aye absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)aye absent
Derek ConwayOld Bexley and Sidcupwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)aye absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConaye absent
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)aye absent
John GreenwayRyedaleConaye absent
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)aye absent
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)aye absent
Boris JohnsonHenleyCon (front bench)aye absent
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)aye absent
Michael MatesEast HampshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Francis MaudeHorshamCon (front bench)aye absent
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Conaye absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)aye absent
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)aye absent
Michael AncramDevizesCon (front bench)absent aye
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
Crispin BluntReigateCon (front bench)absent aye
Angela BrowningTiverton and HonitonCon (front bench)absent aye
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Geoffrey Clifton-BrownCotswoldCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)absent aye
David DaviesMonmouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Philip DaviesShipleyConabsent aye
Stephen DorrellCharnwoodCon (front bench)absent aye
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)absent aye
Iain Duncan SmithChingford and Woodford GreenConabsent aye
Philip DunneLudlowCon (front bench)absent aye
Tobias EllwoodBournemouth EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark FrancoisRayleighCon (front bench)absent aye
Christopher FraserSouth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick GibbBognor Regis and LittlehamptonCon (front bench)absent aye
Chris GraylingEpsom and EwellCon (front bench)absent aye
Justine GreeningPutneyCon (front bench)absent aye
John GummerSuffolk CoastalConabsent aye
Philip HammondRunnymede and WeybridgeCon (front bench)absent aye
Adam HollowayGraveshamCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConabsent aye
Gerald HowarthAldershotCon (front bench)absent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Jeremy HuntSouth West SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
Robert KeySalisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Eleanor LaingEpping ForestCon (front bench)absent aye
Julian LewisNew Forest EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKayBracknellCon (front bench)absent aye
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Theresa MayMaidenheadCon (front bench)absent aye
Maria MillerBasingstokeCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MitchellSutton ColdfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaConabsent aye
Richard ShepherdAldridge-BrownhillsCon (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas SoamesMid SussexCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard SpringWest SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Anthony SteenTotnesCon (front bench)absent aye
Hugo SwireEast DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter TapsellLouth and HorncastleConabsent aye
Ian TaylorEsher and WaltonConabsent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Andrew TyrieChichesterCon (front bench)absent aye
Theresa VilliersChipping BarnetCon (front bench)absent aye
Ben WallaceLancaster and WyreCon (front bench)absent aye
David WillettsHavantCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independentabsent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)absent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Andrew DismoreHendonLab (minister)aye no
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabaye absent
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)no aye
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)no aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)no aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)no aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)no aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)no aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabno aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabno aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabno aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)no absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)no absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)no absent
Colin BurgonElmetLabno absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabno absent
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)no absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabno absent
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)no absent
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabno absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Gwyneth DunwoodyCrewe and NantwichLab (minister)no absent
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabno absent
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)no absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)no absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLabno absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabno absent
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)no absent
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabno absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)no absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)no absent
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)no absent
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)no absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
Piara S KhabraEaling, SouthallLab (minister)no absent
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabno absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)no absent
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)no absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabno absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabno absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabno absent
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)no absent
Alan MealeMansfieldLab (minister)no absent
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)no absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)no absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)no absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)no absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)no absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)no absent
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLab (minister)no absent
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)no absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)no absent
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLab (minister)no absent
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)no absent
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)no absent
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)no absent
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)no absent
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabno absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)no absent
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)no absent
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)no absent
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabno absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labno absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)no absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLababsent aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)absent aye
Kate HoeyVauxhallLababsent aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)absent aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLababsent aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)absent aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLababsent aye
David AndersonBlaydonLab (minister)absent no
Hilary ArmstrongNorth West DurhamLab (minister)absent no
Anne BeggAberdeen SouthLab (minister)absent no
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
Joe BentonBootleLab (minister)absent no
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLababsent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
David CairnsInverclydeLab (minister)absent no
Paul ClarkGillinghamLab (minister)absent no
Michael ConnartyLinlithgow and East FalkirkLab (minister)absent no
Ann CryerKeighleyLab (minister)absent no
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Janet DeanBurtonLab (minister)absent no
John DenhamSouthampton, ItchenLab (minister)absent no
Frank DobsonHolborn and St PancrasLab (minister)absent no
Maria EagleLiverpool, GarstonLab (minister)absent no
Michael Jabez FosterHastings and RyeLab (minister)absent no
Hywel FrancisAberavonLab (minister)absent no
Paul GogginsWythenshawe and Sale EastLab (minister)absent no
Peter HainNeathLab (minister)absent no
David HansonDelynLab (minister)absent no
Mark HendrickPrestonLab (minister)absent no
Stephen HesfordWirral WestLab (minister)absent no
Alan JohnsonKingston upon Hull West and HessleLab (minister)absent no
Kevan JonesNorth DurhamLab (minister)absent no
Tessa JowellDulwich and West NorwoodLab (minister)absent no
Barbara KeeleyWorsleyLab (minister)absent no
David LammyTottenhamLab (minister)absent no
Rob MarrisWolverhampton South WestLab (minister)absent no
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLab (minister)absent no
Pat McFaddenWolverhampton South EastLab (minister)absent no
Gillian MerronLincolnLab (minister)absent no
Jessica MordenNewport EastLab (minister)absent no
Denis MurphyWansbeckLab (minister)absent no
Dan NorrisWansdykeLab (minister)absent no
Terry RooneyBradford NorthLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Christine RussellCity of ChesterLab (minister)absent no
Mohammad SarwarGlasgow CentralLab (minister)absent no
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Desmond TurnerBrighton, KemptownLab (minister)absent no
Kitty UssherBurnleyLab (minister)absent no
Joan WalleyStoke-on-Trent NorthLab (minister)absent no
Malcolm WicksCroydon NorthLab (minister)absent no
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)aye absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Charles KennedyRoss, Skye and LochaberLDemaye absent
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Danny AlexanderInverness, Nairn, Badenoch and StrathspeyLDem (front bench)absent aye
John BarrettEdinburgh WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)absent aye
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Lorely BurtSolihullLDem (front bench)absent aye
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDem (front bench)absent aye
Don FosterBathLDem (front bench)absent aye
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDemabsent aye
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)absent aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)absent aye
John HemmingBirmingham, YardleyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
David HowarthCambridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Dan RogersonNorth CornwallLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)absent aye
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDem (front bench)absent aye
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)absent aye
Stephen WilliamsBristol WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDem (front bench)absent aye
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)aye absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 346 voted the same way, with 20 voting in opposite ways. There were 43 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 237 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
346
(346 + 20 + 0.2x237)
=
346
413.4
= 0.837 = 83.7 %.


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