Comparison of Divisions: Orders of the Day — Clause 1 — The offence — 4 Dec 2006 at 19:30 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Orders of the Day — Clause 1 — The offence - 4 Dec 2006 at 19:30 - Division No. 9

Amendment proposed: No. 1, in page 1, line 11, at end insert-

'(d) a partnership;

(e) an unincorporated association.'.- [Mr. Dismore.]

Question put, That the amendment be made:-

The House divided: Ayes 169, Noes 288.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by name

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLababsent aye
Michael AncramDevizesCon (front bench)absent aye
David AndersonBlaydonLab (minister)absent no
Hilary ArmstrongNorth West DurhamLab (minister)absent no
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
Gregory BarkerBexhill and BattleCon (front bench)absent aye
John BarrettEdinburgh WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Anne BeggAberdeen SouthLab (minister)absent no
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)no absent
Joe BentonBootleLab (minister)absent no
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLababsent no
Crispin BluntReigateCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Angela BrowningTiverton and HonitonCon (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)no absent
Colin BurgonElmetLabno absent
David BurrowesEnfield, SouthgateCon (front bench)absent aye
Lorely BurtSolihullLDem (front bench)absent aye
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)aye absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabno absent
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
David CairnsInverclydeLab (minister)absent no
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)aye absent
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)no absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)aye absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Paul ClarkGillinghamLab (minister)absent no
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabno absent
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Geoffrey Clifton-BrownCotswoldCon (front bench)absent aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)absent aye
Michael ConnartyLinlithgow and East FalkirkLab (minister)absent no
Derek ConwayOld Bexley and Sidcupwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)no absent
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabno absent
Ann CryerKeighleyLab (minister)absent no
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)absent aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
David DaviesMonmouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Philip DaviesShipleyConabsent aye
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew DismoreHendonLab (minister)aye no
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Frank DobsonHolborn and St PancrasLab (minister)absent no
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
Stephen DorrellCharnwoodCon (front bench)absent aye
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)absent aye
Iain Duncan SmithChingford and Woodford GreenConabsent aye
Philip DunneLudlowCon (front bench)absent aye
Gwyneth DunwoodyCrewe and NantwichLab (minister)no absent
Maria EagleLiverpool, GarstonLab (minister)absent no
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabno absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConaye absent
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)no aye
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno aye
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)no absent
Michael Jabez FosterHastings and RyeLab (minister)absent no
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark FrancoisRayleighCon (front bench)absent aye
Christopher FraserSouth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)absent aye
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)no absent
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDemabsent aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Nick GibbBognor Regis and LittlehamptonCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLabno absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabno absent
Paul GogginsWythenshawe and Sale EastLab (minister)absent no
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)both aye
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Chris GraylingEpsom and EwellCon (front bench)absent aye
Justine GreeningPutneyCon (front bench)absent aye
John GreenwayRyedaleConaye absent
John GummerSuffolk CoastalConabsent aye
Peter HainNeathLab (minister)absent no
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)no absent
David HansonDelynLab (minister)absent no
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)aye absent
John HemmingBirmingham, YardleyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabno absent
Mark HendrickPrestonLab (minister)absent no
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye
Stephen HesfordWirral WestLab (minister)absent no
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)no absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)no absent
Kate HoeyVauxhallLababsent aye
Adam HollowayGraveshamCon (front bench)absent aye
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)no absent
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)aye absent
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)aye absent
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConabsent aye
David HowarthCambridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Gerald HowarthAldershotCon (front bench)absent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Simon HughesNorth Southwark and BermondseyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)absent aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)absent aye
Jeremy HuntSouth West SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
John HuttonBarrow and FurnessLab (minister)absent no
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)aye absent
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabno aye
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
Alan JohnsonKingston upon Hull West and HessleLab (minister)absent no
Kevan JonesNorth DurhamLab (minister)absent no
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
Tessa JowellDulwich and West NorwoodLab (minister)absent no
Barbara KeeleyWorsleyLab (minister)absent no
Charles KennedyRoss, Skye and LochaberLDemaye absent
Robert KeySalisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Piara S KhabraEaling, SouthallLab (minister)no absent
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabno absent
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)no absent
Eleanor LaingEpping ForestCon (front bench)absent aye
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)absent aye
David LammyTottenhamLab (minister)absent no
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)no absent
Andrew MacKayBracknellCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)no aye
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)aye absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
Rob MarrisWolverhampton South WestLab (minister)absent no
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)no aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabno aye
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Michael MatesEast HampshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Theresa MayMaidenheadCon (front bench)absent aye
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabno absent
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Pat McFaddenWolverhampton South EastLab (minister)absent no
Jim McGovernDundee WestLab (minister)absent no
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)no absent
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)no aye
Alan MealeMansfieldLab (minister)no absent
Gillian MerronLincolnLab (minister)absent no
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)no absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)no absent
Maria MillerBasingstokeCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MitchellSutton ColdfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)no absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)no absent
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Jessica MordenNewport EastLab (minister)absent no
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Denis MurphyWansbeckLab (minister)absent no
Dan NorrisWansdykeLab (minister)absent no
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)no absent
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)no absent
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Conaye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independentabsent aye
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)no absent
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)no aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)absent aye
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)no absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)no aye
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)no absent
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLab (minister)no absent
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaConabsent aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)no aye
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)no absent
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Terry RooneyBradford NorthLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)absent aye
Christine RussellCity of ChesterLab (minister)absent no
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)no absent
Mohammad SarwarGlasgow CentralLab (minister)absent no
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Richard ShepherdAldridge-BrownhillsCon (front bench)absent aye
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)no absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)absent aye
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)no absent
Nicholas SoamesMid SussexCon (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Richard SpringWest SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)aye absent
Anthony SteenTotnesCon (front bench)absent aye
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabno absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)no absent
Graham StuartBeverley and HoldernessCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter TapsellLouth and HorncastleConabsent aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
Ian TaylorEsher and WaltonConabsent aye
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDem (front bench)absent aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)absent aye
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)absent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)no absent
David TredinnickBosworthConabsent aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabno aye
Desmond TurnerBrighton, KemptownLab (minister)absent no
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)no absent
Andrew TyrieChichesterCon (front bench)absent aye
Kitty UssherBurnleyLab (minister)absent no
Keith VazLeicester EastLababsent aye
Peter ViggersGosportCon (front bench)absent aye
Theresa VilliersChipping BarnetCon (front bench)absent aye
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabno absent
Ben WallaceLancaster and WyreCon (front bench)absent aye
Joan WalleyStoke-on-Trent NorthLab (minister)absent no
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labno absent
Malcolm WicksCroydon NorthLab (minister)absent no
David WillettsHavantCon (front bench)absent aye
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)absent aye
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDem (front bench)absent aye
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)aye absent
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas WintertonMacclesfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabno aye
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)no absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 351 voted the same way, with 22 voting in opposite ways. There were 51 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 222 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
351
(351 + 22 + 0.2x222)
=
351
417.4
= 0.841 = 84.1 %.


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