Comparison of Divisions: House of Lords Reform — Composition Option 4 (50 per Cent. Elected) — rejected — 7 Mar 2007 at 17:09 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

(Swap the two divisions around).

Vote (a) : House of Lords Reform — Composition Option 4 (50 per Cent. Elected) — rejected - 7 Mar 2007 at 17:09 - Division No. 67

The majority Noes rejected the proposal that a reformed House of Lords should be composed of 50 per cent elected members and 50 per cent appointed members.[1]

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Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
James ArbuthnotNorth East HampshireCon (front bench)aye aye
Tony BaldryBanburyConaye aye
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)aye aye
Paul BeresfordMole ValleyCon (front bench)aye aye
Crispin BluntReigateCon (front bench)aye aye
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestCon (front bench)aye aye
Alistair BurtNorth East BedfordshireCon (front bench)aye aye
Stephen DorrellCharnwoodCon (front bench)aye aye
Nick GibbBognor Regis and LittlehamptonCon (front bench)aye aye
Damian GreenAshfordCon (front bench)aye aye
Charles HendryWealdenCon (front bench)aye aye
Mark HobanFarehamCon (front bench)aye aye
Stewart JacksonPeterboroughCon (front bench)aye aye
Robert KeySalisburyCon (front bench)aye aye
Patrick MercerNewarkCon (front bench)aye aye
John PenroseWeston-Super-MareCon (front bench)aye aye
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaConaye aye
Mark SimmondsBoston and SkegnessCon (front bench)aye aye
Anthony SteenTotnesCon (front bench)aye aye
David TredinnickBosworthConaye aye
Andrew TyrieChichesterCon (front bench)aye aye
Ed VaizeyWantageCon (front bench)aye aye
Theresa VilliersChipping BarnetCon (front bench)aye aye
George YoungNorth West HampshireCon (front bench)aye aye
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)no absent
Tim BoswellDaventryConno absent
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)no absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)no absent
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)no absent
Derek ConwayOld Bexley and Sidcupwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)no absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConno absent
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)no absent
John GreenwayRyedaleConno absent
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)no absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)no absent
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)no absent
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)no absent
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)no absent
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)no absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)no absent
Francis MaudeHorshamCon (front bench)no absent
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no absent
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)no absent
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)no absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)no absent
Robert WalterNorth DorsetConno absent
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)no absent
Michael AncramDevizesCon (front bench)absent aye
David BurrowesEnfield, SouthgateCon (front bench)absent aye
David DaviesMonmouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Nadine DorriesMid BedfordshireConabsent aye
Michael FallonSevenoaksCon (front bench)absent aye
David GaukeSouth West HertfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael GoveSurrey HeathCon (front bench)absent aye
Chris GraylingEpsom and EwellCon (front bench)absent aye
Adam HollowayGraveshamCon (front bench)absent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Eleanor LaingEpping ForestCon (front bench)absent aye
James PaiceSouth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Robert SymsPooleCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)aye aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Clare ShortBirmingham, Ladywoodwhilst Independent Labourno absent
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)tellaye aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)aye aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabaye aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)aye aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLabaye aye
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Tony BlairSedgefieldLab (minister)aye absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabaye absent
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabaye absent
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)aye absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)aye absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)aye absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)aye absent
Piara S KhabraEaling, SouthallLab (minister)aye absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)aye absent
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)aye absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)aye absent
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabaye absent
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)aye absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)aye absent
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)aye absent
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)aye absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)aye absent
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)aye absent
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabaye absent
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)aye absent
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)aye absent
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Nick AingerCarmarthen West and South PembrokeshireLab (minister)no no
Bob AinsworthCoventry North EastLab (minister)no no
Graham AllenNottingham NorthLabno no
Janet AndersonRossendale and DarwenLab (minister)no no
Gordon BanksOchil and South PerthshireLab (minister)no no
Kevin BarronRother ValleyLab (minister)no no
Anne BeggAberdeen SouthLab (minister)no no
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)no no
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLabno no
David BorrowSouth RibbleLab (minister)no no
Lyn BrownWest HamLab (minister)no no
Nick BrownNewcastle upon Tyne East and WallsendLabno no
Russell BrownDumfries and GallowayLab (minister)no no
David CairnsInverclydeLab (minister)no no
Alan CampbellTynemouthLab (minister)no no
Colin ChallenMorley and RothwellLab (minister)no no
Ben ChapmanWirral SouthLab (minister)no no
David ChaytorBury NorthLab (minister)no no
Paul ClarkGillinghamLab (minister)no no
Tom ClarkeCoatbridge, Chryston and BellshillLabno no
David ClellandTyne BridgeLab (minister)no no
Ann ClwydCynon ValleyLab (minister)no no
Ann CoffeyStockportLab (minister)no no
Jim CousinsNewcastle upon Tyne CentralLab (minister)no no
David CrausbyBolton North EastLab (minister)no no
John CummingsEasingtonLab (minister)no no
Jim CunninghamCoventry SouthLab (minister)no no
Tony CunninghamWorkingtonLab (minister)no no
Wayne DavidCaerphillyLab (minister)no no
Ian DavidsonGlasgow South WestLab (minister)no no
John DenhamSouthampton, ItchenLab (minister)no no
Jim DevineLivingstonLab (minister)no no
Andrew DismoreHendonLab (minister)no no
Frank DobsonHolborn and St PancrasLab (minister)no no
Brian H DonohoeCentral AyrshireLab (minister)no no
Frank DoranAberdeen NorthLab (minister)no no
Jim DowdLewisham WestLab (minister)no no
David DrewStroudLab (minister)no no
Rob FlelloStoke-on-Trent SouthLab (minister)no no
Linda GilroyPlymouth, SuttonLab (minister)no no
Nia GriffithLlanelliLab (minister)no no
David HamiltonMidlothianLab (minister)no no
David HansonDelynLab (minister)no no
Tom HarrisGlasgow SouthLab (minister)no no
Dai HavardMerthyr Tydfil and RhymneyLab (minister)no no
Mark HendrickPrestonLab (minister)no no
John HeppellNottingham EastLab (minister)no no
Keith HillStreathamLab (minister)no no
George HowarthKnowsley North and Sefton EastLab (minister)no no
Kim HowellsPontypriddLab (minister)no no
Brian IddonBolton South EastLab (minister)no no
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLab (minister)no no
Brian JenkinsTamworthLab (minister)no no
Helen JonesWarrington NorthLab (minister)no no
Kevan JonesNorth DurhamLab (minister)no no
Gerald KaufmanManchester, GortonLab (minister)no no
Sally KeebleNorthampton NorthLab (minister)no no
Alan KeenFeltham and HestonLab (minister)no no
Ann KeenBrentford and IsleworthLab (minister)no no
Fraser KempHoughton and Washington EastLabno no
Jane KennedyLiverpool, WavertreeLabno no
Bob LaxtonDerby NorthLabno no
Mark LazarowiczEdinburgh North and LeithLab (minister)no no
David LepperBrighton, PavilionLab (minister)no no
Tom LevittHigh PeakLab (minister)no no
Tony LloydManchester CentralLab (minister)no no
Ian LucasWrexhamLabno no
Rob MarrisWolverhampton South WestLab (minister)no no
Eric MartlewCarlisleLab (minister)no no
Thomas McAvoyRutherglen and Hamilton WestLab (minister)no no
Steve McCabeBirmingham, Hall GreenLab (minister)no no
Siobhain McDonaghMitcham and MordenLab (minister)no no
Pat McFaddenWolverhampton South EastLab (minister)no no
John McFallWest DunbartonshireLab (minister)no no
Ann McKechinGlasgow NorthLab (minister)no no
Rosemary McKennaCumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch EastLab (minister)no no
Tony McNultyHarrow EastLab (minister)no no
Alun MichaelCardiff South and PenarthLabno no
Andrew MillerEllesmere Port and NestonLab (minister)no no
Chris MoleIpswichLab (minister)no no
Madeleine MoonBridgendLab (minister)no no
Elliot MorleyScunthorpeLabno no
George MudieLeeds EastLab (minister)no no
Chris MullinSunderland SouthLab (minister)no no
Denis MurphyWansbeckLab (minister)no no
Jim MurphyEast RenfrewshireLab (minister)no no
Paul MurphyTorfaenLab (minister)no no
Doug NaysmithBristol North WestLab (minister)no no
Bill OlnerNuneatonLab (minister)no no
Albert OwenYnys MônLab (minister)no no
Ian PearsonDudley SouthLab (minister)no no
James PlaskittWarwick and LeamingtonLab (minister)no no
Dawn PrimaroloBristol SouthLab (minister)no no
Ken PurchaseWolverhampton North EastLab (minister)no no
Geoffrey RobinsonCoventry North WestLabno no
Terry RooneyBradford NorthLab (minister)no no
Frank RoyMotherwell and WishawLab (minister)tellno no
Chris RuaneVale of ClwydLab (minister)no no
Joan RyanEnfield NorthLab (minister)no no
Mohammad SarwarGlasgow CentralLab (minister)no no
Alison SeabeckPlymouth, DevonportLab (minister)no no
Barry SheermanHuddersfieldLab (minister)no no
Jim SheridanPaisley and Renfrewshire NorthLabno no
Siôn SimonBirmingham, ErdingtonLabno no
Dennis SkinnerBolsoverLab (minister)no no
Andrew SlaughterEaling, Acton and Shepherd's BushLab (minister)no no
John SmithVale of GlamorganLab (minister)no no
Helen SouthworthWarrington SouthLab (minister)no no
John SpellarWarleyLabno no
Ian StewartEcclesLabno no
Graham StringerManchester, BlackleyLab (minister)no no
Mark TamiAlyn and DeesideLab (minister)no no
Gareth ThomasHarrow WestLab (minister)no no
Mark ToddSouth DerbyshireLab (minister)no no
Jon TrickettHemsworthLabno no
Desmond TurnerBrighton, KemptownLab (minister)no no
Derek TwiggHaltonLab (minister)no no
Joan WalleyStoke-on-Trent NorthLab (minister)no no
Claire WardWatfordLab (minister)tellno tellno
Tom WatsonWest Bromwich EastLab (minister)no no
Dave WattsSt Helens NorthLab (minister)no tellno
Alan WilliamsSwansea WestLab (minister)no no
Michael WillsNorth SwindonLabno no
Rosie WintertonDoncaster CentralLab (minister)no no
Derek WyattSittingbourne and SheppeyLab (minister)no no
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)no absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)no absent
Colin BurgonElmetLabno absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabno absent
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)no absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Gwyneth DunwoodyCrewe and NantwichLab (minister)no absent
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabno absent
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)no absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLabno absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabno absent
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)no absent
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabno absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)no absent
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)no absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabno absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabno absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
David MarshallGlasgow EastLab (minister)no absent
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)no absent
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabno absent
Alan MealeMansfieldLab (minister)no absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)no absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)no absent
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLab (minister)no absent
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLab (minister)no absent
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)no absent
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)no absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)no absent
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabno absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labno absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Kevin BrennanCardiff WestLab (minister)both no
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLababsent aye
Charlotte AtkinsStaffordshire MoorlandsLab (minister)absent no
Margaret BeckettDerby SouthLab (minister)absent no
Joe BentonBootleLab (minister)absent no
Bob BlizzardWaveneyLab (minister)absent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Michael Jabez FosterHastings and RyeLab (minister)absent no
Barry GardinerBrent NorthLab (minister)absent no
John HealeyWentworthLab (minister)absent no
Stephen HepburnJarrowLab (minister)absent no
Stephen HesfordWirral WestLab (minister)absent no
Phil HopeCorbyLab (minister)absent no
Beverley HughesStretford and UrmstonLab (minister)absent no
Barbara KeeleyWorsleyLab (minister)absent no
Sarah McCarthy-FryPortsmouth NorthLab (minister)absent no
Margaret MoranLuton SouthLab (minister)absent no
Jessica MordenNewport EastLab (minister)absent no
Dan NorrisWansdykeLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Angela SmithBasildonLab (minister)absent no
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLababsent no
Phyllis StarkeyMilton Keynes South WestLab (minister)absent no
Gerry SutcliffeBradford SouthLab (minister)absent no
Don TouhigIslwynLab (minister)absent no
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
Phil WoolasOldham East and SaddleworthLab (minister)absent no
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)no absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)no absent
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)no absent
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)no absent
Charles KennedyRoss, Skye and LochaberLDemno absent
Mark OatenWinchesterLDemno absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)no absent
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)no absent
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)no absent
Alex SalmondBanff and BuchanSNP (front bench)no absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 158 voted the same way, with 306 voting in opposite ways. There were 26 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 156 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
306
(306 + 158 + 0.2x156)
=
306
495.2
= 0.618 = 61.8 %.


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