Comparison of Divisions: House of Lords Reform — Support for bicameral Parliament — 7 Mar 2007 at 17:09 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) : House of Lords Reform — Support for bicameral Parliament - 7 Mar 2007 at 17:09 - Division No. 65

The majority Ayes affirmed the principle of a bicameral parliament (i.e., that the House of Lords should be retained in some form)[1]. There then followed a series of votes on the make-up of the House of Lords, and the proportion of those sitting in it who should be elected, appointed, or there on hereditary grounds.

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  • [1] http://www.theyworkforyou.com/debates/?id=2007-03-07b.1524.1

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by name

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Nick AingerCarmarthen West and South PembrokeshireLab (minister)aye no
Douglas AlexanderPaisley and Renfrewshire SouthLab (minister)aye no
Graham AllenNottingham NorthLabaye no
Hilary ArmstrongNorth West DurhamLab (minister)aye no
Charlotte AtkinsStaffordshire MoorlandsLab (minister)absent no
Ian AustinDudley NorthLab (minister)aye no
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)no absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)aye absent
Vera BairdRedcarLab (minister)absent no
Edward BallsNormantonLab (minister)aye no
Gordon BanksOchil and South PerthshireLab (minister)aye no
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)aye absent
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)aye no
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)aye no
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Joe BentonBootleLab (minister)absent no
Roger BerryKingswoodLab (minister)aye no
Clive BettsSheffield, AttercliffeLab (minister)aye no
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)aye absent
Liz BlackmanErewashLab (minister)aye no
Roberta Blackman-WoodsCity of DurhamLab (minister)absent no
Bob BlizzardWaveneyLab (minister)absent no
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLababsent no
Tim BoswellDaventryConaye absent
Ben BradshawExeterLab (minister)aye no
Kevin BrennanCardiff WestLab (minister)aye no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)aye no
Des BrowneKilmarnock and LoudounLab (minister)aye no
Chris BryantRhonddaLabaye no
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Colin BurgonElmetLabno absent
Andy BurnhamLeighLab (minister)aye no
Dawn ButlerBrent SouthLab (minister)aye no
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)aye absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabno absent
Liam ByrneBirmingham, Hodge HillLab (minister)aye no
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)aye absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)no absent
Colin ChallenMorley and RothwellLab (minister)aye no
Ben ChapmanWirral SouthLab (minister)aye no
David ChaytorBury NorthLab (minister)aye no
Christopher ChopeChristchurchCon (front bench)absent aye
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)aye absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Paul ClarkGillinghamLab (minister)aye no
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabaye absent
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)aye absent
David ClellandTyne BridgeLab (minister)aye no
Ann ClwydCynon ValleyLab (minister)aye no
Vernon CoakerGedlingLab (minister)aye no
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Derek ConwayOld Bexley and Sidcupwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Yvette CooperPontefract and CastlefordLab (minister)aye no
Jim CousinsNewcastle upon Tyne CentralLab (minister)aye no
Mary CreaghWakefieldLab (minister)aye no
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabno absent
Ann CryerKeighleyLab (minister)aye no
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)aye no
Wayne DavidCaerphillyLab (minister)aye no
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentno aye
David DaviesMonmouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)aye absent
John DenhamSouthampton, ItchenLab (minister)aye no
Parmjit DhandaGloucesterLab (minister)aye no
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
David DrewStroudLab (minister)aye no
Gwyneth DunwoodyCrewe and NantwichLab (minister)aye absent
Angela EagleWallaseyLab (minister)aye no
Maria EagleLiverpool, GarstonLab (minister)aye no
Louise EllmanLiverpool, RiversideLab (minister)aye no
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabno absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConaye absent
Michael FallonSevenoaksCon (front bench)absent aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)aye absent
Mark FieldCities of London and WestminsterConno aye
Jim FitzpatrickPoplar and Canning TownLab (minister)aye no
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)aye absent
Barbara FollettStevenageLab (minister)aye no
Michael Jabez FosterHastings and RyeLab (minister)aye no
Hywel FrancisAberavonLab (minister)aye no
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)no absent
Barry GardinerBrent NorthLab (minister)absent no
David GaukeSouth West HertfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Bruce GeorgeWalsall SouthLabaye no
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Nick GibbBognor Regis and LittlehamptonCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLabno absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabno absent
Paul GogginsWythenshawe and Sale EastLab (minister)aye no
Helen GoodmanBishop AucklandLab (minister)aye no
Michael GoveSurrey HeathCon (front bench)absent aye
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Chris GraylingEpsom and EwellCon (front bench)absent aye
John GreenwayRyedaleConaye absent
Nigel GriffithsEdinburgh SouthLab (minister)absent no
John GroganSelbyLab (minister)aye no
Peter HainNeathLab (minister)aye no
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)aye absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)aye absent
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)no absent
Harriet HarmanCamberwell and PeckhamLab (minister)aye no
Tom HarrisGlasgow SouthLab (minister)aye no
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
John HealeyWentworthLab (minister)aye no
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)aye absent
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabno absent
John HeppellNottingham EastLab (minister)aye no
Stephen HesfordWirral WestLab (minister)absent no
Patricia HewittLeicester WestLab (minister)aye no
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)aye absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)aye absent
Sharon HodgsonGateshead East and Washington WestLab (minister)aye no
Adam HollowayGraveshamCon (front bench)absent aye
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)no absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Phil HopeCorbyLab (minister)absent no
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)aye absent
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)no absent
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Kim HowellsPontypriddLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Beverley HughesStretford and UrmstonLab (minister)absent no
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
John HuttonBarrow and FurnessLab (minister)aye no
Brian IddonBolton South EastLab (minister)aye no
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)no absent
Huw Irranca-DaviesOgmoreLab (minister)aye no
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)aye absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
Alan JohnsonKingston upon Hull West and HessleLab (minister)absent no
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Tessa JowellDulwich and West NorwoodLab (minister)aye no
Gerald KaufmanManchester, GortonLab (minister)absent no
Sally KeebleNorthampton NorthLab (minister)aye no
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)aye absent
Ruth KellyBolton WestLab (minister)aye no
Charles KennedyRoss, Skye and LochaberLDemaye absent
Piara S KhabraEaling, SouthallLab (minister)aye absent
Sadiq KhanTootingLab (minister)aye no
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabno absent
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)aye absent
Jim KnightSouth DorsetLab (minister)aye no
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)no absent
Eleanor LaingEpping ForestCon (front bench)absent aye
David LammyTottenhamLab (minister)aye no
Mark LazarowiczEdinburgh North and LeithLab (minister)aye no
Tom LevittHigh PeakLab (minister)aye no
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)aye absent
Andrew LoveEdmontonLab (minister)aye no
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)aye absent
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)no absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabaye absent
Fiona MactaggartSloughLab (minister)aye no
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabaye absent
Shahid MalikDewsburyLab (minister)aye no
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)aye absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)aye absent
David MarshallGlasgow EastLab (minister)no absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Michael MatesEast HampshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Francis MaudeHorshamCon (front bench)aye absent
Thomas McAvoyRutherglen and Hamilton WestLab (minister)aye no
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabaye absent
Kerry McCarthyBristol EastLab (minister)aye no
Sarah McCarthy-FryPortsmouth NorthLab (minister)aye no
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLab (minister)aye no
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Pat McFaddenWolverhampton South EastLab (minister)aye no
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)aye absent
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)no aye
Ann McKechinGlasgow NorthLab (minister)aye no
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabaye absent
Alan MealeMansfieldLab (minister)no absent
Gillian MerronLincolnLab (minister)aye no
Alun MichaelCardiff South and PenarthLabaye no
Alan MilburnDarlingtonLabaye no
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)aye absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)aye absent
Laura MoffattCrawleyLab (minister)aye no
Madeleine MoonBridgendLab (minister)aye no
Margaret MoranLuton SouthLab (minister)absent no
Jessica MordenNewport EastLab (minister)absent no
Elliot MorleyScunthorpeLabaye no
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Chris MullinSunderland SouthLab (minister)aye no
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)aye absent
Meg MunnSheffield, HeeleyLab (minister)aye no
Denis MurphyWansbeckLab (minister)aye no
Jim MurphyEast RenfrewshireLab (minister)aye no
Paul MurphyTorfaenLab (minister)aye no
Dan NorrisWansdykeLab (minister)absent no
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Mark OatenWinchesterLDemaye absent
Bill OlnerNuneatonLab (minister)aye no
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)no absent
James PaiceSouth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
James PlaskittWarwick and LeamingtonLab (minister)aye no
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)no absent
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)no aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
Gordon PrenticePendleLab (minister)aye no
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLab (minister)aye absent
Gwyn ProsserDoverLab (minister)aye no
James PurnellStalybridge and HydeLab (minister)aye no
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)aye absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)aye absent
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)no aye
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)no absent
Geoffrey RobinsonCoventry North WestLabaye no
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)both absent
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Chris RuaneVale of ClwydLab (minister)aye no
Joan RuddockLewisham, DeptfordLab (minister)aye no
Christine RussellCity of ChesterLab (minister)aye no
Alex SalmondBanff and BuchanSNP (front bench)no absent
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)aye absent
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Jonathan R ShawChatham and AylesfordLab (minister)tellaye no
Clare ShortBirmingham, Ladywoodwhilst Independent Labouraye absent
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabno aye
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)no absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Angela SmithSheffield, HillsboroughLab (minister)aye no
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLababsent no
Jacqui SmithRedditchLab (minister)aye no
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)aye absent
Peter SoulsbyLeicester SouthLab (minister)aye no
Michael SpicerWest WorcestershireCon (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)aye absent
Phyllis StarkeyMilton Keynes South WestLab (minister)aye no
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabaye absent
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)aye no
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)no absent
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)aye both
Gareth ThomasHarrow WestLab (minister)aye no
Emily ThornberryIslington South and FinsburyLab (minister)aye no
Stephen TimmsEast HamLab (minister)aye no
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)aye absent
Mark ToddSouth DerbyshireLab (minister)aye no
Don TouhigIslwynLab (minister)absent no
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)aye absent
Keith VazLeicester EastLabno aye
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabno absent
Robert WalterNorth DorsetConaye absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labno absent
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)no aye
Alan WhiteheadSouthampton, TestLab (minister)aye no
Malcolm WicksCroydon NorthLab (minister)aye no
Alan WilliamsSwansea WestLab (minister)aye no
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Michael WillsNorth SwindonLabaye no
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)aye absent
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
David WinnickWalsall NorthLab (minister)aye no
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)no aye
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Phil WoolasOldham East and SaddleworthLab (minister)absent no
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
David WrightTelfordLab (minister)aye no
Iain WrightHartlepoolLab (minister)aye no
Tony WrightCannock ChaseLab (minister)aye no
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 342 voted the same way, with 128 voting in opposite ways. There were 26 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 150 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
342
(342 + 128 + 0.2x150)
=
342
500
= 0.684 = 68.4 %.


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