Comparison of Divisions: Opposition Day — [14th Allotted Day] — Carers — 11 Jun 2007 at 21:53 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Opposition Day — [14th Allotted Day] — Carers - 11 Jun 2007 at 21:53 - Division No. 137

I beg to move,

That this House recognises the vital contribution that the UK's six million carers make to society; welcomes recent announcements on carers including the Government review of the National Strategy for Carers, the New Deal for Carers and the Treasury report 'Aiming high for disabled children: better support for families' as steps towards an improvement in recognition and support for carers; notes that 54 per cent. of carers have given up work and one in five carers feel forced to do so; recognises the impacts which caring responsibilities have on family incomes, relative poverty and the health of carers themselves; is deeply concerned that an estimated 175,000 young people are carers of adults with the consequent pressures on them; calls on the Government to reduce the bureaucracy of social care provision that puts so much pressure on carers; and asks the Government to bring forward proposals for simplifying the benefit system in order to provide better support for carers and to ensure that the review of the National Strategy for Carers has both short term and long term objectives to enhance support for carers and to respond to the vital role played by carers in society.

I beg to move, To leave out from "review" to the end of the Question and to add instead thereof:

"of the first ever National Strategy for carers, the New Deal for Carers and the Treasury report "Aiming high for disabled children: better support for families" as steps towards an improvement in recognition and support for carers; notes that the review of the National Strategy includes a far reaching consultation with carers and others to make recommendations for the short, medium and long-term; further welcomes the extra £25 million for short-term home-based respite care for carers and the extra £3 million towards establishing a national helpline for carers announced in 2007; congratulates the Government for introducing in 2007 the new Expert Carers Programme; further notes that the Pensions Bill currently before Parliament includes a package of reforms to recognise the contribution made by carers and ensure that they can build up better pension records; further notes that the right to request flexible working introduced by this Government will help carers better balance their work and caring benefits; and further welcomes the substantial improvements made to the benefits available to low income carers.'.

Question put, That the original words stand part of the Question:-

The House divided: Ayes 198, Noes 291.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by constituency

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)no aye
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)no absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)no absent
Tony BaldryBanburyConabsent aye
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)no absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)no absent
Jeff EnnisBarnsley East and MexboroughLab (minister)absent no
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)no absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)no absent
Dominic GrieveBeaconsfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Gregory BarkerBexhill and BattleCon (front bench)absent aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)no absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)no absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabno absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabno absent
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)absent no
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)absent aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentno aye
Ruth KellyBolton WestLab (minister)absent no
Mark SimmondsBoston and SkegnessCon (front bench)absent aye
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)aye absent
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Dawn PrimaroloBristol SouthLab (minister)absent no
Stephen WilliamsBristol WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstConabsent aye
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)aye absent
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
David ChaytorBury NorthLab (minister)absent no
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)absent aye
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabno absent
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Brian H DonohoeCentral AyrshireLab (minister)absent no
Dame Cheryl GillanChesham and AmershamCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)absent aye
Theresa VilliersChipping BarnetCon (front bench)absent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)no aye
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Ann WintertonCongletonCon (front bench)absent aye
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)no absent
Gwyneth DunwoodyCrewe and NantwichLab (minister)no absent
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Howard StoateDartfordLab (minister)absent no
Tim BoswellDaventryConaye absent
Caroline FlintDon ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)no absent
Tessa JowellDulwich and West NorwoodLab (minister)absent no
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)no absent
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)absent aye
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Hugo SwireEast DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLab (minister)absent no
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jim MurphyEast RenfrewshireLab (minister)absent no
Stephen O'BrienEddisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
Colin BurgonElmetLabno absent
Chris GraylingEpsom and EwellCon (front bench)absent aye
Ben BradshawExeterLab (minister)absent no
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabno absent
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)aye absent
Edward LeighGainsboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Sharon HodgsonGateshead East and Washington WestLab (minister)absent no
Vernon CoakerGedlingLab (minister)absent no
David MarshallGlasgow EastLab (minister)no absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)no absent
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)no absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabno aye
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)no absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)no aye
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)aye absent
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLababsent aye
Tony McNultyHarrow EastLab (minister)absent no
Douglas CarswellHarwichCon (front bench)absent aye
David WillettsHavantCon (front bench)absent aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLababsent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Boris JohnsonHenleyCon (front bench)aye absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Barry SheermanHuddersfieldLab (minister)absent no
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)no absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)no absent
Andrew TurnerIsle of WightConabsent aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabno aye
Des BrowneKilmarnock and LoudounLab (minister)absent no
Alan JohnsonKingston upon Hull West and HessleLab (minister)absent no
Roger BerryKingswoodLab (minister)absent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)no absent
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)no absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)no absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)no absent
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)no absent
Keith VazLeicester EastLabno aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Michael ConnartyLinlithgow and East FalkirkLab (minister)absent no
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabno absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labno absent
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)no aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Margaret MoranLuton SouthLab (minister)absent no
Nicholas WintertonMacclesfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Theresa MayMaidenheadCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLab (minister)absent no
John WhittingdaleMaldon and East ChelmsfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Graham StringerManchester, BlackleyLab (minister)absent no
Alan MealeMansfieldLab (minister)no absent
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabno aye
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)no absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)no aye
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)no absent
Peter HainNeathLab (minister)absent no
Julian LewisNew Forest EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick MercerNewarkConabsent aye
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabno absent
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)no aye
Jessica MordenNewport EastLab (minister)absent no
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)no absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Natascha EngelNorth East DerbyshireLab (minister)absent no
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabno absent
Shailesh VaraNorth West CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Hilary ArmstrongNorth West DurhamLab (minister)absent no
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)aye absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)no absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabno absent
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabno aye
Phil WoolasOldham East and SaddleworthLab (minister)absent no
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabno absent
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)aye absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Douglas AlexanderPaisley and Renfrewshire SouthLab (minister)absent no
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)absent aye
Stewart JacksonPeterboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Kim HowellsPontypriddLab (minister)absent no
Stephen CrabbPreseli PembrokeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabno aye
Rob WilsonReading EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)no absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
Crispin BluntReigateCon (front bench)absent aye
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConaye absent
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)aye absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabno absent
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)absent aye
John GreenwayRyedaleConaye absent
Hazel BlearsSalfordLab (minister)absent no
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLab (minister)no absent
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Meg MunnSheffield, HeeleyLab (minister)absent no
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)no absent
Daniel KawczynskiShrewsbury and AtchamCon (front bench)absent aye
Fiona MactaggartSloughLab (minister)absent no
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Mark ToddSouth DerbyshireLab (minister)absent no
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)absent aye
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)no absent
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)aye absent
Anne MainSt AlbansCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDemabsent aye
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)no absent
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)no absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno aye
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)aye absent
Keith HillStreathamLab (minister)absent no
Beverley HughesStretford and UrmstonLab (minister)absent no
Michael GoveSurrey HeathCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MitchellSutton ColdfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)no aye
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)aye absent
Kate HoeyVauxhallLababsent aye
Mary CreaghWakefieldLab (minister)absent no
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Ed VaizeyWantageCon (front bench)absent aye
Helen SouthworthWarrington SouthLab (minister)absent no
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)aye absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
John McFallWest DunbartonshireLab (minister)absent no
Richard SpringWest SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)no absent
Mark OatenWinchesterLDemaye absent
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)aye absent
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)no aye
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 377 voted the same way, with 26 voting in opposite ways. There were 47 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 196 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
377
(377 + 26 + 0.2x196)
=
377
442.2
= 0.853 = 85.3 %.


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