Comparison of Divisions: Orders of the Day — Greater London Authority Bill — 11 Oct 2007 at 14:15 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Orders of the Day — Greater London Authority Bill - 11 Oct 2007 at 14:15 - Division No. 208

I beg to move, That this House disagrees with the Lords in the said amendment.

I welcome the hon. Member for Bromley and Chislehurst (Robert Neill) to the Front Bench and to the Dispatch Box again after last night. During consideration of the Bill, he has moved from the Back Benches to the Front Bench and has seen it through every stage, as has the hon. Member for Carshalton and Wallington (Tom Brake). They have lived with the Bill for longer than I have and I look forward to their contributions.

I beg to move, That this House disagrees with the Lords in their Amendment.

The hon. Member for Bromley and Chislehurst (Robert Neill) touched on the question of the budget and the budget-making process and powers. I can understand the superficial appeal of this amendment. It is reasonable to say that to a detached observer it may seem only fair that an assembly should be able to exercise its power to amend the Mayor's final draft consolidated budget by simple majority rather than the two-thirds majority currently required. However, the principle of the two thirds majority goes to the heart of the governance of the GLA-a governance and a model that has served London well since its introduction. I shall explain to the House why that principle is so important.

Question put, That this House disagrees with the Lords in the said amendment:-

The House divided: Ayes 278, Noes 165.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)no absent
Tim BoswellDaventryConno absent
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)no absent
Derek ConwayOld Bexley and Sidcupwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConno absent
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)no absent
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireConno absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)no absent
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)no absent
Boris JohnsonHenleyConno absent
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)no absent
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)no absent
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no absent
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)no absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)no absent
Peter AinsworthEast SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
James ArbuthnotNorth East HampshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Tony BaldryBanburyConabsent aye
Gregory BarkerBexhill and BattleCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul BeresfordMole ValleyCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Alistair BurtNorth East BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Greg ClarkTunbridge WellsCon (front bench)absent aye
Geoffrey Clifton-BrownCotswoldCon (front bench)absent aye
Geoffrey CoxTorridge and West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
David DaviesMonmouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen DorrellCharnwoodCon (front bench)absent aye
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)absent aye
Iain Duncan SmithChingford and Woodford GreenConabsent aye
Philip DunneLudlowCon (front bench)absent aye
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)absent aye
Christopher FraserSouth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick GibbBognor Regis and LittlehamptonCon (front bench)absent aye
Dame Cheryl GillanChesham and AmershamCon (front bench)absent aye
Dominic GrieveBeaconsfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
John GummerSuffolk CoastalConabsent aye
Greg HandsHammersmith and FulhamCon (front bench)absent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Daniel KawczynskiShrewsbury and AtchamCon (front bench)absent aye
Robert KeySalisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Greg KnightEast YorkshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Eleanor LaingEpping ForestCon (front bench)absent aye
Jacqui LaitBeckenhamCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark LancasterNorth East Milton KeynesCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew LansleySouth CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward LeighGainsboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Julian LewisNew Forest EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian Liddell-GraingerBridgwaterCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter LilleyHitchin and HarpendenConabsent aye
Tim LoughtonEast Worthing and ShorehamCon (front bench)absent aye
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick McLoughlinWest DerbyshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick MercerNewarkConabsent aye
Stephen O'BrienEddisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
James PaiceSouth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark PritchardThe WrekinCon (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaConabsent aye
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)absent aye
Grant ShappsWelwyn HatfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas SoamesMid SussexCon (front bench)absent aye
Anthony SteenTotnesCon (front bench)absent aye
Hugo SwireEast DevonConabsent aye
Peter TapsellLouth and HorncastleConabsent aye
Ian TaylorEsher and WaltonConabsent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
David TredinnickBosworthConabsent aye
Andrew TurnerIsle of WightConabsent aye
Andrew TyrieChichesterCon (front bench)absent aye
Ed VaizeyWantageCon (front bench)absent aye
Ben WallaceLancaster and WyreCon (front bench)absent aye
John WhittingdaleMaldon and East ChelmsfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdConabsent aye
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentaye aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)absent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabaye aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLabaye aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)aye aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabaye aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)aye aye
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabaye aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)aye aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)aye aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabaye aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)aye aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)aye aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)aye aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)aye aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)aye aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabaye aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabaye aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)aye aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)aye both
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)aye absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)aye absent
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)aye absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabaye absent
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)aye absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)aye absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabaye absent
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabaye absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)aye absent
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabaye absent
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)aye absent
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)aye absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)aye absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)aye absent
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabaye absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)aye absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)aye absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)aye absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)aye absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)aye absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabaye absent
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Martin LintonBatterseaLabaye absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabaye absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabaye absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)aye absent
David MarshallGlasgow EastLab (minister)aye absent
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabaye absent
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)aye absent
Alan MealeMansfieldLab (minister)aye absent
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)aye absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)aye absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)aye absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)aye absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)aye absent
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)aye absent
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)aye absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)aye absent
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLabaye absent
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)aye absent
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)aye absent
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)aye absent
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)aye absent
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabaye absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)aye absent
Paddy TippingSherwoodLabaye absent
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)aye absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabaye absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)aye absent
Kate HoeyVauxhallLababsent aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)absent aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLababsent aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLababsent aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLababsent aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Hilary ArmstrongNorth West DurhamLababsent no
Ian AustinDudley NorthLab (minister)absent no
Margaret BeckettDerby SouthLababsent no
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
Hazel BlearsSalfordLab (minister)absent no
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLababsent no
David BorrowSouth RibbleLab (minister)absent no
Kevin BrennanCardiff WestLab (minister)absent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Des BrowneKilmarnock and LoudounLab (minister)absent no
David ClellandTyne BridgeLab (minister)absent no
Rosie CooperWest LancashireLab (minister)absent no
Jim CousinsNewcastle upon Tyne CentralLab (minister)absent no
Mary CreaghWakefieldLab (minister)absent no
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Jim DevineLivingstonLab (minister)absent no
Parmjit DhandaGloucesterLab (minister)absent no
Frank DobsonHolborn and St PancrasLab (minister)absent no
Nigel GriffithsEdinburgh SouthLababsent no
John GroganSelbyLab (minister)absent no
David HamiltonMidlothianLab (minister)absent no
Patricia HewittLeicester WestLababsent no
John HuttonBarrow and FurnessLab (minister)absent no
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLababsent no
Brian JenkinsTamworthLab (minister)absent no
Alan JohnsonKingston upon Hull West and HessleLab (minister)absent no
Kevan JonesNorth DurhamLab (minister)absent no
Tessa JowellDulwich and West NorwoodLab (minister)absent no
Andrew LoveEdmontonLab (minister)absent no
Eric MartlewCarlisleLab (minister)absent no
Alan MilburnDarlingtonLababsent no
Jessica MordenNewport EastLab (minister)absent no
Jim MurphyEast RenfrewshireLab (minister)absent no
Gwyn ProsserDoverLab (minister)absent no
Ken PurchaseWolverhampton North EastLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Mohammad SarwarGlasgow CentralLab (minister)absent no
Angela SmithBasildonLababsent no
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLab (minister)absent no
Jacqui SmithRedditchLab (minister)absent no
Peter SoulsbyLeicester SouthLab (minister)absent no
Howard StoateDartfordLab (minister)absent no
Graham StringerManchester, BlackleyLab (minister)absent no
Mark TamiAlyn and DeesideLab (minister)absent no
Derek TwiggHaltonLab (minister)absent no
Kitty UssherBurnleyLab (minister)absent no
Malcolm WicksCroydon NorthLab (minister)absent no
Rosie WintertonDoncaster CentralLab (minister)absent no
Phil WoolasOldham East and SaddleworthLab (minister)absent no
Iain WrightHartlepoolLab (minister)absent no
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)no absent
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)no absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)no absent
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Norman BakerLewesLDem (front bench)absent aye
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)absent aye
Annette BrookeMid Dorset and North PooleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Lorely BurtSolihullLDem (front bench)absent aye
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDemabsent aye
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)absent aye
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
John PughSouthportLDem (front bench)absent aye
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Dan RogersonNorth CornwallLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Bob RussellColchesterLDem (front bench)absent aye
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemabsent aye
Steve WebbNorthavonLDemabsent aye
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)absent aye
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)absent aye
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 22 voted the same way, with 343 voting in opposite ways. There were 53 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 228 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
343
(343 + 22 + 0.2x228)
=
343
410.6
= 0.835 = 83.5 %.


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