Comparison of Divisions: Orders of the Day — The Economy and Pensions — 14 Nov 2007 at 18:45 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) : Orders of the Day — The Economy and Pensions - 14 Nov 2007 at 18:45 - Division No. 3

The Aye-voters failed to carry a motion introduced by Vincent Cable (Acting Leader of the Liberal Democrats) to add an amendment to the traditional address offered to thank the Queen for her speech at the Opening of Parliament.

This amendment would have expressed regret that the Queen’s speech did not announce proposals for a referendum on the United Kingdom’s continued membership of the European Union.

The House divided: Ayes 68, Noes 464.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by constituency

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLabno absent
Gerald HowarthAldershotCon (front bench)no aye
Graham BradyAltrincham and Sale WestCon (front bench)no aye
Mark TamiAlyn and DeesideLab (minister)absent no
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)no aye
Nick HerbertArundel and South DownsCon (front bench)no aye
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)no absent
Damian GreenAshfordCon (front bench)no aye
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
David LidingtonAylesburyCon (front bench)no aye
Tony BaldryBanburyConno aye
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)no absent
Maria MillerBasingstokeCon (front bench)no aye
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLabno absent
Dominic GrieveBeaconsfieldCon (front bench)no aye
Jacqui LaitBeckenhamCon (front bench)no aye
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Graham StuartBeverley and HoldernessCon (front bench)no aye
Gregory BarkerBexhill and BattleCon (front bench)no aye
David EvennettBexleyheath and CrayfordCon (front bench)no aye
John BaronBillericayCon (front bench)no aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)no absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabno absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabno absent
Andrew RobathanBlabyCon (front bench)no aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)no aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentno aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Nick GibbBognor Regis and LittlehamptonCon (front bench)no aye
Mark SimmondsBoston and SkegnessCon (front bench)no aye
David TredinnickBosworthConno aye
Tobias EllwoodBournemouth EastCon (front bench)no aye
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)no absent
Andrew MacKayBracknellCon (front bench)no aye
Brooks NewmarkBraintreeCon (front bench)no aye
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)no aye
Ian Liddell-GraingerBridgwaterCon (front bench)no aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstCon (front bench)no aye
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)no absent
Charles WalkerBroxbourneCon (front bench)no aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)no aye
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)absent aye
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)absent aye
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabno absent
Julian BrazierCanterburyCon (front bench)no aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Alun MichaelCardiff South and PenarthLab (minister)absent no
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)no aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Stephen DorrellCharnwoodCon (front bench)no aye
Dame Cheryl GillanChesham and AmershamCon (front bench)no aye
Andrew TyrieChichesterCon (front bench)no aye
Iain Duncan SmithChingford and Woodford GreenConno aye
Theresa VilliersChipping BarnetCon (front bench)no aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Christopher ChopeChristchurchCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark FieldCities of London and WestminsterCon (front bench)no aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLabno aye
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
David JonesClwyd WestCon (front bench)no aye
Bob RussellColchesterLDem (front bench)absent aye
Ann WintertonCongletonCon (front bench)absent aye
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)no absent
Geoffrey Clifton-BrownCotswoldCon (front bench)no aye
Gwyneth DunwoodyCrewe and NantwichLab (minister)no absent
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLab (minister)no absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)no aye
Ann ClwydCynon ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Jon CruddasDagenhamLab (minister)no absent
Tim BoswellDaventryConno absent
Michael AncramDevizesCon (front bench)absent aye
Shahid MalikDewsburyLab (minister)absent no
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)no absent
Tessa JowellDulwich and West NorwoodLab (minister)absent no
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)no absent
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)no absent
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)no aye
Hugo SwireEast DevonConabsent aye
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)no absent
Jim MurphyEast RenfrewshireLab (minister)absent no
Peter AinsworthEast SurreyCon (front bench)no aye
Tim LoughtonEast Worthing and ShorehamCon (front bench)no aye
Greg KnightEast YorkshireCon (front bench)no aye
Nigel WatersonEastbourneCon (front bench)no aye
Ian StewartEcclesLab (minister)absent no
Stephen O'BrienEddisburyCon (front bench)no aye
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLab (minister)no absent
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
Colin BurgonElmetLabno absent
Joan RyanEnfield NorthLab (minister)absent no
David BurrowesEnfield, SouthgateCon (front bench)no aye
Eleanor LaingEpping ForestCon (front bench)no aye
Chris GraylingEpsom and EwellCon (front bench)no aye
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)no absent
Ian TaylorEsher and WaltonConno aye
Mark HobanFarehamCon (front bench)no aye
Hugh RobertsonFaversham and Mid KentCon (front bench)no aye
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConno aye
Mark HarperForest of DeanCon (front bench)no aye
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)no absent
Edward LeighGainsboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
David MarshallGlasgow EastLab (minister)no absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)no absent
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Peter ViggersGosportCon (front bench)absent aye
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)no absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Adam HollowayGraveshamCon (front bench)absent aye
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)no absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Anne MiltonGuildfordCon (front bench)no aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLababsent aye
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)no absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)no aye
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)no absent
Greg HandsHammersmith and FulhamCon (front bench)no aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLababsent aye
Edward GarnierHarboroughCon (front bench)no aye
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)no absent
David WillettsHavantCon (front bench)no aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabno aye
Mike PenningHemel HempsteadCon (front bench)no aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Boris JohnsonHenleyConno absent
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)aye absent
Mark PriskHertford and StortfordCon (front bench)no aye
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)no absent
Peter AtkinsonHexhamCon (front bench)no aye
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Peter LilleyHitchin and HarpendenConno aye
James BrokenshireHornchurchCon (front bench)no aye
Francis MaudeHorshamCon (front bench)no absent
Jonathan DjanoglyHuntingdonCon (front bench)no aye
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)no absent
Lee ScottIlford NorthCon (front bench)no aye
Andrew TurnerIsle of WightConno aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabno aye
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaConno aye
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLabno absent
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)no absent
Ben WallaceLancaster and WyreCon (front bench)no aye
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)no absent
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)no absent
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)no aye
Bill WigginLeominsterCon (front bench)no aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Michael FabricantLichfieldCon (front bench)no aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)no aye
Peter TapsellLouth and HorncastleConabsent aye
Philip DunneLudlowCon (front bench)no aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Margaret MoranLuton SouthLab (minister)absent no
Nicholas WintertonMacclesfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Theresa MayMaidenheadCon (front bench)no aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdConabsent aye
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLababsent no
John WhittingdaleMaldon and East ChelmsfordCon (front bench)no aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabno aye
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)absent aye
Caroline SpelmanMeridenCon (front bench)no aye
Nadine DorriesMid BedfordshireConno aye
Keith SimpsonMid NorfolkCon (front bench)no aye
Nicholas SoamesMid SussexCon (front bench)no aye
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)no absent
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)no absent
Paul BeresfordMole ValleyCon (front bench)absent aye
David DaviesMonmouthCon (front bench)no aye
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)no aye
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)no absent
Julian LewisNew Forest EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Desmond SwayneNew Forest WestCon (front bench)no aye
Patrick MercerNewarkConno aye
Richard BenyonNewburyCon (front bench)no aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)no aye
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)no absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye
Alistair BurtNorth East BedfordshireCon (front bench)no aye
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no absent
James ArbuthnotNorth East HampshireCon (front bench)no aye
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)no absent
Mark LancasterNorth East Milton KeynesCon (front bench)no aye
Bernard JenkinNorth EssexCon (front bench)absent aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)no absent
Simon HughesNorth Southwark and BermondseyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)no aye
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabno absent
Shailesh VaraNorth West CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no aye
George YoungNorth West HampshireCon (front bench)no aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)absent both
Henry BellinghamNorth West NorfolkCon (front bench)no aye
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)no absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabno absent
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabno aye
Derek ConwayOld Bexley and Sidcupwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
Phil WoolasOldham East and SaddleworthLab (minister)absent no
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabno absent
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)aye absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)no aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)no aye
Stewart JacksonPeterboroughCon (front bench)no aye
Robert SymsPooleCon (front bench)no aye
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)aye absent
Stephen CrabbPreseli PembrokeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabno aye
Justine GreeningPutneyCon (front bench)no aye
Mark FrancoisRayleighCon (front bench)no aye
Rob WilsonReading EastCon (front bench)no aye
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)no absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
Crispin BluntReigateCon (front bench)no aye
William HagueRichmond (Yorks)Con (front bench)no aye
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)aye absent
James DuddridgeRochford and Southend EastCon (front bench)no aye
Andrew RosindellRomfordCon (front bench)no aye
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabno absent
Jeremy WrightRugby and KenilworthCon (front bench)no aye
Nick HurdRuislip - NorthwoodCon (front bench)no aye
Philip HammondRunnymede and WeybridgeCon (front bench)no aye
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)no absent
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)no aye
John GreenwayRyedaleConno absent
Robert KeySalisburyCon (front bench)no aye
Robert GoodwillScarborough and WhitbyCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael FallonSevenoaksCon (front bench)no aye
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLabno absent
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)no absent
Daniel KawczynskiShrewsbury and AtchamCon (front bench)no aye
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)no aye
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
Andrew LansleySouth CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no aye
Jim KnightSouth DorsetLab (minister)absent no
James PaiceSouth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no aye
John HayesSouth Holland and The DeepingsCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard BaconSouth NorfolkCon (front bench)no aye
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)no absent
Andrew SelousSouth West BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Gary StreeterSouth West DevonCon (front bench)no aye
David GaukeSouth West HertfordshireCon (front bench)no aye
Christopher FraserSouth West NorfolkCon (front bench)no aye
Jeremy HuntSouth West SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
Sir David AmessSouthend WestCon (front bench)no aye
Anne MainSt AlbansCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)no absent
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)no absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLababsent aye
Joan WalleyStoke-on-Trent NorthLab (minister)absent no
Bill CashStoneCon (front bench)absent aye
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)no absent
John GummerSuffolk CoastalConno aye
Michael GoveSurrey HeathCon (front bench)no aye
Andrew MitchellSutton ColdfieldCon (front bench)no aye
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)no aye
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Laurence RobertsonTewkesburyCon (front bench)no aye
Mark PritchardThe WrekinCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)no aye
Angela BrowningTiverton and HonitonCon (front bench)no aye
Geoffrey CoxTorridge and West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Anthony SteenTotnesCon (front bench)no aye
David LammyTottenhamLab (minister)absent no
Greg ClarkTunbridge WellsCon (front bench)no aye
Angela WatkinsonUpminsterCon (front bench)no aye
David SimpsonUpper BannDUP (front bench)aye absent
John RandallUxbridgeCon (front bench)no aye
Anne McIntoshVale of YorkCon (front bench)no aye
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)no aye
Mary CreaghWakefieldLab (minister)absent no
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Ed VaizeyWantageCon (front bench)absent aye
Charles HendryWealdenCon (front bench)no aye
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)no absent
Grant ShappsWelwyn HatfieldCon (front bench)no aye
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
Simon BurnsWest ChelmsfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick McLoughlinWest DerbyshireCon (front bench)no aye
Oliver LetwinWest DorsetCon (front bench)no aye
John McFallWest DunbartonshireLab (minister)absent no
Richard SpringWest SuffolkCon (front bench)no aye
Michael SpicerWest WorcestershireCon (front bench)no aye
Andrew MurrisonWestburyCon (front bench)no aye
John PenroseWeston-Super-MareCon (front bench)no aye
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)no absent
Stephen HammondWimbledonCon (front bench)no aye
Mark OatenWinchesterLDemaye absent
Adam AfriyieWindsorCon (front bench)no aye
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)no aye
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)no absent
John RedwoodWokinghamConabsent aye
Ken PurchaseWolverhampton North EastLab (minister)absent no
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)no aye
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul GoodmanWycombeCon (front bench)no aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 285 voted the same way, with 159 voting in opposite ways. There were 43 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 159 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
285
(285 + 159 + 0.2x159)
=
285
475.8
= 0.599 = 59.9 %.


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