Comparison of Divisions: Opposition Day — [3rd allotted day] — Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs — 4 Dec 2007 at 21:50 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Opposition Day — [3rd allotted day] — Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs - 4 Dec 2007 at 21:50 - Division No. 21

I beg to move,

That this House deplores the performance of the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs; regrets that it has been responsible for huge and avoidable costs to farmers and taxpayers; notes with concern the significant cost overruns in the Department's programme and administration budgets; and believes that planned budget cuts of £270 million will further undermine efforts to deliver policies which tackle climate change, promote the farming industry and enhance the natural environment.

I beg to move, To leave out from "House" to the end of the Question, and to add instead thereof:

"commends the Government on its swift and effective action to deal with four different disease outbreaks in England in 2007; welcomes the announcement on 8th October 2007 of an aid package to farmers worth £12.5 million through extra support to hill farmers, fallen stock collection, meat promotion and help for farming support charities; congratulates the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) on its effective emergency planning arrangements in conjunction with the emergency services and local authorities to warn those at risk from the recent tidal surge and initiate precautionary evacuation; applauds the increase in spending on flood defences since 1997, a 30 per cent. increase in real terms to around £600 million, and the announcement that spending will rise to a maximum of £800 million by 2010-11; and further congratulates the Government for bringing together environment, rural affairs and food and farming under Defra to create a unified structure essential for the effective delivery of integrated Government policies across these issues.".

Question put accordingly, That the original words stand part of the Question:-

The House divided: Ayes 186, Noes 275.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)aye absent
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)aye absent
Derek ConwayOld Bexley and Sidcupwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)aye absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)aye absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)aye absent
Boris JohnsonHenleyConaye absent
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)aye absent
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)aye absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)aye absent
Michael MatesEast HampshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)aye absent
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)aye absent
James ArbuthnotNorth East HampshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Tony BaldryBanburyConabsent aye
Henry BellinghamNorth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Graham BradyAltrincham and Sale WestCon (front bench)absent aye
James BrokenshireHornchurchCon (front bench)absent aye
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Christopher ChopeChristchurchCon (front bench)absent aye
Greg ClarkTunbridge WellsCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen CrabbPreseli PembrokeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)absent aye
David DaviesMonmouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Jonathan DjanoglyHuntingdonCon (front bench)absent aye
Nadine DorriesMid BedfordshireConabsent aye
Iain Duncan SmithChingford and Woodford GreenConabsent aye
Tobias EllwoodBournemouth EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark FieldCities of London and WestminsterConabsent aye
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward GarnierHarboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Chris GraylingEpsom and EwellCon (front bench)absent aye
John GummerSuffolk CoastalConabsent aye
Greg HandsHammersmith and FulhamCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConabsent aye
Gerald HowarthAldershotCon (front bench)absent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Jeremy HuntSouth West SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
David JonesClwyd WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Daniel KawczynskiShrewsbury and AtchamCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark LancasterNorth East Milton KeynesCon (front bench)absent aye
David LidingtonAylesburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim LoughtonEast Worthing and ShorehamCon (front bench)absent aye
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MitchellSutton ColdfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstCon (front bench)absent aye
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Hugh RobertsonFaversham and Mid KentCon (front bench)absent aye
Laurence RobertsonTewkesburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark SimmondsBoston and SkegnessCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Ed VaizeyWantageCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter ViggersGosportCon (front bench)absent aye
Charles WalkerBroxbourneCon (front bench)absent aye
John WhittingdaleMaldon and East ChelmsfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas WintertonMacclesfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Iris RobinsonStrangfordDUPaye absent
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentno aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)absent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabno aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)no aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)no aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)no aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabno aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLabno aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)no aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)no aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)no aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabno aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabno aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)no aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabno aye
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)no absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)no absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)no absent
Colin BurgonElmetLabno absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabno absent
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLabno absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)no absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)no absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabno absent
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabno absent
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLab (minister)no absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)no absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)no absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabno absent
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)no absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)no absent
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)no absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)no absent
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)no absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabno absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)no absent
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
Martin LintonBatterseaLabno absent
John MacDougallGlenrothesLab (minister)no absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)no absent
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabno absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)no absent
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)no absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)no absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)no absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)no absent
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)no absent
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)no absent
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)no absent
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)no absent
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)no absent
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLab (minister)no absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)no absent
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)no absent
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)no absent
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)no absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLababsent aye
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLababsent aye
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)absent aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLababsent aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLababsent aye
Hilary ArmstrongNorth West DurhamLababsent no
Kevin BarronRother ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
Roger BerryKingswoodLab (minister)absent no
Clive BettsSheffield, AttercliffeLab (minister)absent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Dawn ButlerBrent SouthLab (minister)absent no
Colin ChallenMorley and RothwellLab (minister)absent no
Ben ChapmanWirral SouthLab (minister)absent no
Yvette CooperPontefract and CastlefordLab (minister)absent no
Mary CreaghWakefieldLab (minister)absent no
Ann CryerKeighleyLab (minister)absent no
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
John DenhamSouthampton, ItchenLab (minister)absent no
David DrewStroudLab (minister)absent no
Natascha EngelNorth East DerbyshireLab (minister)absent no
Rob FlelloStoke-on-Trent SouthLab (minister)absent no
Barry GardinerBrent NorthLab (minister)absent no
Nigel GriffithsEdinburgh SouthLab (minister)absent no
John GroganSelbyLab (minister)absent no
Peter HainNeathLab (minister)absent no
John HealeyWentworthLab (minister)absent no
Stephen HepburnJarrowLab (minister)absent no
John HeppellNottingham EastLab (minister)absent no
Keith HillStreathamLab (minister)absent no
Sharon HodgsonGateshead East and Washington WestLab (minister)absent no
John HuttonBarrow and FurnessLab (minister)absent no
Sally KeebleNorthampton NorthLab (minister)absent no
Barbara KeeleyWorsleyLab (minister)absent no
Fraser KempHoughton and Washington EastLababsent no
Bob LaxtonDerby NorthLab (minister)absent no
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLababsent no
Pat McFaddenWolverhampton South EastLab (minister)absent no
Jim MurphyEast RenfrewshireLab (minister)absent no
Albert OwenYnys MônLab (minister)absent no
James PurnellStalybridge and HydeLab (minister)absent no
Terry RooneyBradford NorthLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Mohammad SarwarGlasgow CentralLab (minister)absent no
Andrew SlaughterEaling, Acton and Shepherd's BushLab (minister)absent no
Angela SmithSheffield, HillsboroughLab (minister)absent no
John SpellarWarleyLababsent no
Ian StewartEcclesLab (minister)absent no
Emily ThornberryIslington South and FinsburyLab (minister)absent no
Kitty UssherBurnleyLab (minister)absent no
Claire WardWatfordLab (minister)absent tellno
Malcolm WicksCroydon NorthLab (minister)absent no
Tony WrightCannock ChaseLab (minister)absent no
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)absent both
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)aye absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Norman BakerLewesLDem (front bench)absent aye
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)absent aye
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Lorely BurtSolihullLDem (front bench)absent aye
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDemabsent aye
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)absent aye
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDem (front bench)absent aye
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)absent aye
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Sarah TeatherBrent EastLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)absent aye
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)no aye
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)aye absent
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)aye absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 366 voted the same way, with 24 voting in opposite ways. There were 60 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 196 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
366
(366 + 24 + 0.2x196)
=
366
429.2
= 0.853 = 85.3 %.


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