Comparison of Divisions: Delegated Legislation — Local Government — 18 Feb 2008 at 21:15 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

(Swap the two divisions around).

Vote (a) (unedited): Delegated Legislation — Local Government - 18 Feb 2008 at 21:15 - Division No. 79

The House having divided: Ayes 287, Noes 116.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by constituency

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLabaye absent
Richard ShepherdAldridge-BrownhillsCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark TamiAlyn and DeesideLab (minister)absent no
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Damian GreenAshfordCon (front bench)absent aye
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)aye absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)aye absent
Tony BaldryBanburyConabsent aye
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)aye absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Jeff EnnisBarnsley East and MexboroughLab (minister)absent no
John HuttonBarrow and FurnessLab (minister)absent no
Maria MillerBasingstokeCon (front bench)absent aye
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)aye absent
Don FosterBathLDem (front bench)aye aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLabaye absent
Jacqui LaitBeckenhamCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)absent aye
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)aye aye
Graham StuartBeverley and HoldernessCon (front bench)absent aye
David EvennettBexleyheath and CrayfordCon (front bench)absent aye
John BaronBillericayCon (front bench)absent aye
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)aye absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)aye absent
John HemmingBirmingham, YardleyLDem (front bench)aye aye
Andrew RobathanBlabyCon (front bench)absent aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)aye aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLabaye aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
David AndersonBlaydonLab (minister)absent no
David CrausbyBolton North EastLab (minister)absent no
Ruth KellyBolton WestLab (minister)absent no
Sarah TeatherBrent EastLDem (front bench)aye aye
Barry GardinerBrent NorthLab (minister)absent no
Dawn ButlerBrent SouthLab (minister)absent no
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)aye aye
Stephen WilliamsBristol WestLDem (front bench)aye aye
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)no absent
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)aye aye
Kitty UssherBurnleyLab (minister)absent no
David ChaytorBury NorthLab (minister)absent no
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)aye absent
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)absent aye
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)absent aye
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)absent aye
David HowarthCambridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Tony WrightCannock ChaseLab (minister)absent no
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDem (front bench)aye aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)absent aye
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)aye aye
Stephen DorrellCharnwoodCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDemabsent aye
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDem (front bench)aye aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)absent aye
Andrew TyrieChichesterCon (front bench)absent aye
Iain Duncan SmithChingford and Woodford GreenConabsent aye
Theresa VilliersChipping BarnetCon (front bench)absent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)aye absent
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLabaye aye
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)aye absent
David JonesClwyd WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Bob RussellColchesterLDem (front bench)aye aye
Ann WintertonCongletonCon (front bench)absent aye
Betty WilliamsConwyLabaye absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)aye absent
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLab (minister)aye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabaye absent
Alan MilburnDarlingtonLababsent no
Howard StoateDartfordLab (minister)absent no
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)no absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDem (front bench)aye aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)absent aye
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLab (minister)absent no
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLababsent no
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)aye absent
Peter AinsworthEast SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
Nigel WatersonEastbourneCon (front bench)absent aye
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)absent aye
Ian StewartEcclesLab (minister)absent no
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLab (minister)aye absent
John BarrettEdinburgh WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Chris GraylingEpsom and EwellCon (front bench)absent aye
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)aye absent
Eric JoyceFalkirkLab (minister)absent no
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)absent aye
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabaye absent
Paul ClarkGillinghamLab (minister)absent no
Mohammad SarwarGlasgow CentralLab (minister)absent no
David MarshallGlasgow EastLab (minister)aye absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Peter ViggersGosportCon (front bench)absent aye
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye absent
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)aye absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabaye aye
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)aye absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)aye aye
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)no absent
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLababsent aye
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDem (front bench)aye aye
Gareth ThomasHarrow WestLab (minister)absent no
David WillettsHavantCon (front bench)absent aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabaye aye
Andrew StunellHazel GroveLDemabsent aye
Mike PenningHemel HempsteadCon (front bench)absent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)aye absent
Peter LilleyHitchin and HarpendenConabsent aye
Frank DobsonHolborn and St PancrasLababsent no
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDemabsent aye
Francis MaudeHorshamCon (front bench)no absent
Lee ScottIlford NorthCon (front bench)absent aye
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Danny AlexanderInverness, Nairn, Badenoch and StrathspeyLDemaye aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabaye aye
Emily ThornberryIslington South and FinsburyLab (minister)absent no
Don TouhigIslwynLab (minister)absent no
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaConabsent aye
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Roger BerryKingswoodLab (minister)absent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)aye absent
George MudieLeeds EastLab (minister)absent no
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)aye absent
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)aye aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)absent aye
Patricia HewittLeicester WestLababsent no
Norman BakerLewesLDem (front bench)absent aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)aye absent
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)aye aye
Gillian MerronLincolnLab (minister)absent no
Michael ConnartyLinlithgow and East FalkirkLab (minister)absent no
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabaye absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Jim DevineLivingstonLab (minister)absent no
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)aye aye
Peter TapsellLouth and HorncastleConabsent aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Margaret MoranLuton SouthLab (minister)absent no
Nicholas WintertonMacclesfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdConabsent aye
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Alan MealeMansfieldLabaye absent
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLababsent aye
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)absent aye
Nadine DorriesMid BedfordshireConabsent aye
Annette BrookeMid Dorset and North PooleLDem (front bench)aye aye
Keith SimpsonMid NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas SoamesMid SussexCon (front bench)absent aye
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)aye absent
Paul BeresfordMole ValleyCon (front bench)absent aye
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
Peter HainNeathLababsent no
Patrick MercerNewarkConabsent aye
Richard BenyonNewburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabaye absent
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)absent aye
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)aye absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)aye absent
Dan RogersonNorth CornwallLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no absent
Natascha EngelNorth East DerbyshireLababsent no
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)aye aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)no absent
Simon HughesNorth Southwark and BermondseyLDem (front bench)aye aye
Michael WillsNorth SwindonLab (minister)absent no
George YoungNorth West HampshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)aye both
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)no absent
Steve WebbNorthavonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabaye absent
Graham AllenNottingham NorthLababsent no
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLababsent aye
Gordon BanksOchil and South PerthshireLab (minister)absent no
Phil WoolasOldham East and SaddleworthLab (minister)absent no
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabaye absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)no absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Douglas AlexanderPaisley and Renfrewshire SouthLab (minister)absent no
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)absent aye
Kim HowellsPontypriddLab (minister)absent no
Jim FitzpatrickPoplar and Canning TownLab (minister)absent no
Stephen CrabbPreseli PembrokeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark HendrickPrestonLab (minister)absent no
Paul TruswellPudseyLabaye aye
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)aye absent
Vera BairdRedcarLab (minister)absent no
Crispin BluntReigateCon (front bench)absent aye
William HagueRichmond (Yorks)Con (front bench)absent aye
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDem (front bench)aye aye
Andrew RosindellRomfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Janet AndersonRossendale and DarwenLab (minister)absent no
Nick HurdRuislip - NorthwoodCon (front bench)absent aye
Philip HammondRunnymede and WeybridgeCon (front bench)absent aye
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)absent aye
Robert KeySalisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Elliot MorleyScunthorpeLababsent no
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLabaye absent
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLababsent no
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)aye absent
Derek WyattSittingbourne and SheppeyLab (minister)absent no
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)absent aye
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
Lorely BurtSolihullLDem (front bench)absent aye
David HeathSomerton and FromeLDem (front bench)aye aye
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
James PaiceSouth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)absent aye
Richard BaconSouth NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)aye absent
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)aye absent
Christopher FraserSouth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
John DenhamSouthampton, ItchenLab (minister)absent no
John PughSouthportLDem (front bench)aye aye
James PurnellStalybridge and HydeLab (minister)absent no
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)aye absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabaye aye
John GummerSuffolk CoastalConabsent aye
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabaye absent
Michael GoveSurrey HeathCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Alan WilliamsSwansea WestLab (minister)absent no
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)aye aye
Mark PritchardThe WrekinCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)aye aye
Adrian SandersTorbayLDem (front bench)absent aye
Anthony SteenTotnesCon (front bench)absent aye
David LammyTottenhamLab (minister)absent no
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemabsent aye
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)absent aye
Mary CreaghWakefieldLab (minister)absent no
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)absent aye
Claire WardWatfordLab (minister)absent tellno
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)aye absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)no absent
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)absent aye
Simon BurnsWest ChelmsfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard SpringWest SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)aye aye
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)aye absent
Stephen HammondWimbledonCon (front bench)absent aye
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)absent aye
Paul GogginsWythenshawe and Sale EastLab (minister)absent no
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)aye aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 647 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 44 voted the same way, with 300 voting in opposite ways. There were 72 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 231 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
300
(300 + 44 + 0.2x231)
=
300
390.2
= 0.769 = 76.9 %.


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