Comparison of Divisions: Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill — Timetable — 12 May 2008 at 21:41 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) : Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill — Timetable - 12 May 2008 at 21:41 - Division No. 177

The majority of MPs voted to establish a timetable[1] for the debate of the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill.[2] This happens immediately after a Bill has passed its Second Reading.[3]

The timetable requires the issues of human-animal hybrids and the termination of pregnancy to be debated in the main chamber of the House of Commons over two days, while the rest is discussed in a standing committee, which will have finished its work by 17 June.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestCon (front bench)aye aye
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)no absent
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)no absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConno absent
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)no absent
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)no absent
Adam AfriyieWindsorCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter AinsworthEast SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
James ArbuthnotNorth East HampshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter AtkinsonHexhamCon (front bench)absent aye
Gregory BarkerBexhill and BattleCon (front bench)absent aye
John BaronBillericayCon (front bench)absent aye
Henry BellinghamNorth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
Crispin BluntReigateCon (front bench)absent aye
Graham BradyAltrincham and Sale WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Julian BrazierCanterburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Angela BrowningTiverton and HonitonCon (front bench)absent aye
Simon BurnsWest ChelmsfordCon (front bench)absent aye
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Geoffrey Clifton-BrownCotswoldCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Geoffrey CoxTorridge and West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen CrabbPreseli PembrokeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)absent aye
David DaviesMonmouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Jonathan DjanoglyHuntingdonCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen DorrellCharnwoodCon (front bench)absent aye
James DuddridgeRochford and Southend EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)absent aye
Philip DunneLudlowCon (front bench)absent aye
Tobias EllwoodBournemouth EastCon (front bench)absent aye
David EvennettBexleyheath and CrayfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael FabricantLichfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael FallonSevenoaksCon (front bench)absent aye
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark FrancoisRayleighCon (front bench)absent aye
Christopher FraserSouth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)absent aye
David GaukeSouth West HertfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick GibbBognor Regis and LittlehamptonCon (front bench)absent aye
Robert GoodwillScarborough and WhitbyCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael GoveSurrey HeathCon (front bench)absent aye
Chris GraylingEpsom and EwellCon (front bench)absent aye
Justine GreeningPutneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Dominic GrieveBeaconsfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
William HagueRichmond (Yorks)Con (front bench)absent aye
Stephen HammondWimbledonCon (front bench)absent aye
Charles HendryWealdenCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick HerbertArundel and South DownsCon (front bench)absent aye
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
Philip HolloboneKetteringCon (front bench)absent aye
Adam HollowayGraveshamCon (front bench)absent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Jeremy HuntSouth West SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
David JonesClwyd WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Eleanor LaingEpping ForestCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark LancasterNorth East Milton KeynesCon (front bench)absent aye
Julian LewisNew Forest EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim LoughtonEast Worthing and ShorehamCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKayBracknellCon (front bench)absent aye
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne MainSt AlbansCon (front bench)absent aye
Theresa MayMaidenheadCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick MercerNewarkCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne MiltonGuildfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstCon (front bench)absent aye
Brooks NewmarkBraintreeCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen O'BrienEddisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
James PaiceSouth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
John PenroseWeston-Super-MareCon (front bench)absent aye
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark PriskHertford and StortfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaConabsent aye
Andrew RobathanBlabyCon (front bench)absent aye
Hugh RobertsonFaversham and Mid KentCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew RosindellRomfordCon (front bench)absent aye
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)absent aye
Grant ShappsWelwyn HatfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard ShepherdAldridge-BrownhillsCon (front bench)absent aye
Keith SimpsonMid NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael SpicerWest WorcestershireCon (front bench)absent aye
Anthony SteenTotnesCon (front bench)absent aye
Hugo SwireEast DevonConabsent aye
Robert SymsPooleCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
David TredinnickBosworthConabsent aye
Ed VaizeyWantageCon (front bench)absent aye
Shailesh VaraNorth West CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Ben WallaceLancaster and WyreCon (front bench)absent aye
Nigel WatersonEastbourneCon (front bench)absent aye
Angela WatkinsonUpminsterCon (front bench)absent aye
Bill WigginLeominsterCon (front bench)absent aye
David WillettsHavantCon (front bench)absent aye
Rob WilsonReading EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian PaisleyNorth AntrimDUP (front bench)no absent
Iris RobinsonStrangfordDUPno absent
David SimpsonUpper BannDUP (front bench)no absent
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)aye aye
Derek ConwayOld Bexley and Sidcupwhilst Independent (front bench)no absent
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabaye aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)aye aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabaye aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)aye aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)aye aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLabaye aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabaye aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLabaye aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)aye aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)aye aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)aye aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabaye aye
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)aye absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Colin BurgonElmetLabaye absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabaye absent
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLabaye absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)aye absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabaye absent
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabaye absent
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)aye absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabaye absent
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)aye absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)aye absent
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabaye absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)aye absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)aye absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)aye absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)aye absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)aye absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)aye absent
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)aye absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabaye absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabaye absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)aye absent
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabaye absent
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)aye absent
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabaye absent
Alan MealeMansfieldLabaye absent
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)aye absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)aye absent
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)aye absent
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLabaye absent
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)aye absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)aye absent
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLabaye absent
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)aye absent
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)aye absent
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLab (minister)aye absent
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)aye absent
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)aye absent
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabaye absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabaye absent
Tom ClarkeCoatbridge, Chryston and BellshillLab (minister)no no
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLab (minister)no no
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLab (minister)no absent
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)absent aye
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLababsent aye
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)absent aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLababsent aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLababsent aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)absent aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)absent aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLababsent aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)absent aye
Nick AingerCarmarthen West and South PembrokeshireLab (minister)absent no
Douglas AlexanderPaisley and Renfrewshire SouthLab (minister)absent no
David AndersonBlaydonLab (minister)absent no
Janet AndersonRossendale and DarwenLab (minister)absent no
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Anne BeggAberdeen SouthLab (minister)absent no
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
Joe BentonBootleLab (minister)absent no
Roger BerryKingswoodLab (minister)absent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Russell BrownDumfries and GallowayLab (minister)absent no
Chris BryantRhonddaLab (minister)absent no
Colin ChallenMorley and RothwellLab (minister)absent no
Ben ChapmanWirral SouthLab (minister)absent no
David ClellandTyne BridgeLab (minister)absent no
Jim CousinsNewcastle upon Tyne CentralLab (minister)absent no
Mary CreaghWakefieldLab (minister)absent no
Ann CryerKeighleyLab (minister)absent no
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
Janet DeanBurtonLab (minister)absent no
Natascha EngelNorth East DerbyshireLababsent no
Rob FlelloStoke-on-Trent SouthLab (minister)absent no
Paul GogginsWythenshawe and Sale EastLab (minister)absent no
Stephen HepburnJarrowLab (minister)absent no
Patricia HewittLeicester WestLababsent no
Kim HowellsPontypriddLab (minister)absent no
Beverley HughesStretford and UrmstonLab (minister)absent no
Gerald KaufmanManchester, GortonLab (minister)absent no
Ruth KellyBolton WestLab (minister)absent no
Tom LevittHigh PeakLab (minister)absent no
Steve McCabeBirmingham, Hall GreenLab (minister)absent no
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLababsent no
Rosemary McKennaCumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch EastLab (minister)absent no
Gillian MerronLincolnLab (minister)absent no
Margaret MoranLuton SouthLab (minister)absent no
Denis MurphyWansbeckLab (minister)absent no
Gwyn ProsserDoverLab (minister)absent no
Ken PurchaseWolverhampton North EastLab (minister)absent no
Terry RooneyBradford NorthLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Mohammad SarwarGlasgow CentralLab (minister)absent no
Andrew SlaughterEaling, Acton and Shepherd's BushLab (minister)absent no
John SmithVale of GlamorganLab (minister)absent no
Howard StoateDartfordLab (minister)absent no
Gerry SutcliffeBradford SouthLab (minister)absent no
Stephen TimmsEast HamLab (minister)absent no
Claire WardWatfordLab (minister)absent tellno
Tom WatsonWest Bromwich EastLab (minister)absent no
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLab (minister)absent no
David WinnickWalsall NorthLab (minister)absent no
Tony WrightCannock ChaseLab (minister)absent no
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)aye aye
David HowarthCambridgeLDem (front bench)aye aye
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemaye aye
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)no absent
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)no absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)no absent
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Danny AlexanderInverness, Nairn, Badenoch and StrathspeyLDemabsent aye
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)absent aye
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)absent aye
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Bob RussellColchesterLDem (front bench)absent aye
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)absent aye
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDem (front bench)absent aye
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)aye aye
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)absent aye
Mark DurkanFoyleSDLP (front bench)no absent
Eddie McGradySouth DownSDLPno absent
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)no absent
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)no absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 645 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 23 voted the same way, with 322 voting in opposite ways. There were 61 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 239 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
322
(322 + 23 + 0.2x239)
=
322
392.8
= 0.820 = 82.0 %.


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