Comparison of Divisions: Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill — Testing for gender-related illness — 19 May 2008 at 21:45 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) : Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill — Testing for gender-related illness - 19 May 2008 at 21:45 - Division No. 194

The majority of MPs voted against tightening the provisions for when the sex of an embryo could be established, under a license from the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Act 1990.[1]

When the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill is passed, it would be possible to establish the sex of an embryo in a case where there is a particular risk that any resulting child will have or develop:[2]

  • a gender-related serious physical or mental disability,
  • a gender-related serious illness, or
  • any other gender-related serious medical condition

The proposal would have changed these conditions to:[3]

  • a gender-related physical or mental disability which is life-threatening or severely impairs their quality of life,
  • a gender-related serious illness which is life-threatening or severely impairs their quality of life, or
  • any other gender-related serious medical condition which is life-threatening or severely impairs their quality of life

but the original words were kept.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)aye absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConaye absent
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)aye absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)aye absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)aye absent
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)aye absent
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)aye absent
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)aye absent
Michael MatesEast HampshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Francis MaudeHorshamCon (front bench)aye absent
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)aye absent
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)aye absent
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)aye absent
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)no aye
Douglas CarswellHarwichCon (front bench)no aye
Greg ClarkTunbridge WellsCon (front bench)no aye
Geoffrey Clifton-BrownCotswoldCon (front bench)no aye
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)no aye
Stephen DorrellCharnwoodCon (front bench)no aye
David GaukeSouth West HertfordshireCon (front bench)no aye
Bernard JenkinNorth EssexCon (front bench)no aye
Robert KeySalisburyCon (front bench)no aye
Greg KnightEast YorkshireCon (front bench)no aye
Eleanor LaingEpping ForestCon (front bench)no aye
Jacqui LaitBeckenhamCon (front bench)no aye
Oliver LetwinWest DorsetCon (front bench)no aye
Julian LewisNew Forest EastCon (front bench)no aye
Andrew MacKayBracknellCon (front bench)no aye
Anne McIntoshVale of YorkCon (front bench)no aye
Andrew MurrisonWestburyCon (front bench)no aye
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)no aye
James PaiceSouth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no aye
Grant ShappsWelwyn HatfieldCon (front bench)no aye
Nicholas SoamesMid SussexCon (front bench)no aye
Anthony SteenTotnesCon (front bench)no aye
Hugo SwireEast DevonConno aye
Andrew TyrieChichesterCon (front bench)no aye
Shailesh VaraNorth West CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no aye
Peter ViggersGosportCon (front bench)no aye
Theresa VilliersChipping BarnetCon (front bench)no aye
Ben WallaceLancaster and WyreCon (front bench)no aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)no aye
George YoungNorth West HampshireCon (front bench)no aye
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)no absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)no absent
Adam AfriyieWindsorCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter AinsworthEast SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
Sir David AmessSouthend WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael AncramDevizesCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard BaconSouth NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Gregory BarkerBexhill and BattleCon (front bench)absent aye
John BaronBillericayCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestCon (front bench)absent aye
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Bill CashStoneCon (front bench)absent aye
Geoffrey CoxTorridge and West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen CrabbPreseli PembrokeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David DaviesMonmouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Philip DaviesShipleyConabsent aye
Nadine DorriesMid BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)absent aye
Tobias EllwoodBournemouth EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael FabricantLichfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Christopher FraserSouth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)absent aye
Dame Cheryl GillanChesham and AmershamCon (front bench)absent aye
Robert GoodwillScarborough and WhitbyCon (front bench)absent aye
Chris GraylingEpsom and EwellCon (front bench)absent aye
John GummerSuffolk CoastalConabsent aye
William HagueRichmond (Yorks)Con (front bench)absent aye
Greg HandsHammersmith and FulhamCon (front bench)absent aye
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
Adam HollowayGraveshamCon (front bench)absent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Mark LancasterNorth East Milton KeynesCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter LilleyHitchin and HarpendenConabsent aye
Theresa MayMaidenheadCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MitchellSutton ColdfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew RobathanBlabyCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew RosindellRomfordCon (front bench)absent aye
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)absent aye
Lee ScottIlford NorthCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter TapsellLouth and HorncastleConabsent aye
Ian TaylorEsher and WaltonConabsent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
David TredinnickBosworthConabsent aye
Ed VaizeyWantageCon (front bench)absent aye
John WhittingdaleMaldon and East ChelmsfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdConabsent aye
Bill WigginLeominsterCon (front bench)absent aye
Ann WintertonCongletonCon (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas WintertonMacclesfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian PaisleyNorth AntrimDUP (front bench)aye absent
Iris RobinsonStrangfordDUPaye absent
David SimpsonUpper BannDUP (front bench)aye absent
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)no aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
John CummingsEasingtonLab (minister)aye no
Jim CunninghamCoventry SouthLab (minister)aye no
Tony CunninghamWorkingtonLab (minister)aye no
David DrewStroudLab (minister)aye no
Jim FitzpatrickPoplar and Canning TownLab (minister)aye no
Helen GoodmanBishop AucklandLab (minister)aye no
Gerald KaufmanManchester, GortonLab (minister)aye no
Sadiq KhanTootingLab (minister)aye no
Thomas McAvoyRutherglen and Hamilton WestLab (minister)aye no
George MudieLeeds EastLab (minister)aye no
Denis MurphyWansbeckLab (minister)aye no
Frank RoyMotherwell and WishawLab (minister)aye no
Mohammad SarwarGlasgow CentralLab (minister)aye no
Mark ToddSouth DerbyshireLab (minister)aye no
Derek TwiggHaltonLab (minister)aye no
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)aye both
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabaye absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)aye absent
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)aye absent
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)aye absent
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabno aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabno aye
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)no aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabno aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabno aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLabno aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)no aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabno aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)no absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)no absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)no absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabno absent
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLabno absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)no absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabno absent
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabno absent
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)no absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)no absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)no absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabno absent
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)no absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)no absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)no absent
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)no absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabno absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabno absent
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)no absent
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabno absent
Alan MealeMansfieldLabno absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)no absent
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)no absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)no absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)no absent
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLabno absent
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)no absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)no absent
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)no absent
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)no absent
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)no absent
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLab (minister)no absent
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)no absent
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabno absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)absent aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)absent aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLababsent aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLababsent aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)absent aye
Nick AingerCarmarthen West and South PembrokeshireLab (minister)absent no
Janet AndersonRossendale and DarwenLab (minister)absent no
Charlotte AtkinsStaffordshire MoorlandsLab (minister)absent no
Vera BairdRedcarLab (minister)absent no
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
Joe BentonBootleLab (minister)absent no
Roberta Blackman-WoodsCity of DurhamLab (minister)absent no
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLababsent no
Dawn ButlerBrent SouthLab (minister)absent no
David CairnsInverclydeLab (minister)absent no
Colin ChallenMorley and RothwellLab (minister)absent no
Ben ChapmanWirral SouthLab (minister)absent no
Tom ClarkeCoatbridge, Chryston and BellshillLab (minister)absent no
Ann ClwydCynon ValleyLab (minister)absent no
David CrausbyBolton North EastLab (minister)absent no
Mary CreaghWakefieldLab (minister)absent no
Natascha EngelNorth East DerbyshireLababsent no
Rob FlelloStoke-on-Trent SouthLab (minister)absent no
Barry GardinerBrent NorthLab (minister)absent no
Bruce GeorgeWalsall SouthLababsent no
Nigel GriffithsEdinburgh SouthLab (minister)absent no
David HamiltonMidlothianLab (minister)absent no
Tom HarrisGlasgow SouthLab (minister)absent no
Dai HavardMerthyr Tydfil and RhymneyLab (minister)absent no
John HealeyWentworthLab (minister)absent no
John HeppellNottingham EastLab (minister)absent no
Stephen HesfordWirral WestLab (minister)absent no
John HuttonBarrow and FurnessLab (minister)absent no
Eric JoyceFalkirkLab (minister)absent no
Barbara KeeleyWorsleyLab (minister)absent no
Alan KeenFeltham and HestonLab (minister)absent no
Ruth KellyBolton WestLab (minister)absent no
David LammyTottenhamLab (minister)absent no
Bob LaxtonDerby NorthLab (minister)absent no
Steve McCabeBirmingham, Hall GreenLab (minister)absent no
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLababsent no
Siobhain McDonaghMitcham and MordenLab (minister)absent no
John McFallWest DunbartonshireLab (minister)absent no
Jim McGovernDundee WestLab (minister)absent no
Rosemary McKennaCumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch EastLab (minister)absent no
Alun MichaelCardiff South and PenarthLab (minister)absent no
Elliot MorleyScunthorpeLababsent no
Meg MunnSheffield, HeeleyLab (minister)absent no
Paul MurphyTorfaenLab (minister)absent no
Albert OwenYnys MônLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Chris RuaneVale of ClwydLab (minister)absent no
Christine RussellCity of ChesterLab (minister)absent no
Joan RyanEnfield NorthLab (minister)absent no
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLab (minister)absent no
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLab (minister)absent no
Jacqui SmithRedditchLab (minister)absent no
John SmithVale of GlamorganLab (minister)absent no
Ian StewartEcclesLab (minister)absent no
Gerry SutcliffeBradford SouthLab (minister)absent no
Don TouhigIslwynLab (minister)absent no
Tom WatsonWest Bromwich EastLab (minister)absent no
Dave WattsSt Helens NorthLab (minister)absent tellno
Tony WrightCannock ChaseLab (minister)absent no
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)aye absent
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)aye absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
John BarrettEdinburgh WestLDem (front bench)no aye
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)no aye
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)no aye
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)no aye
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)no aye
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)no aye
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)no aye
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)no aye
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDemno aye
Don FosterBathLDem (front bench)no aye
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDem (front bench)no aye
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)no aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)no aye
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)no aye
John HemmingBirmingham, YardleyLDem (front bench)no aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)no aye
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDem (front bench)no aye
David HowarthCambridgeLDem (front bench)no aye
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)no aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)no aye
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDem (front bench)no aye
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)no aye
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)no aye
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)no aye
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)no tellaye
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDem (front bench)no aye
Dan RogersonNorth CornwallLDem (front bench)no tellaye
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)no aye
Andrew StunellHazel GroveLDemno aye
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemno aye
Steve WebbNorthavonLDem (front bench)no aye
Stephen WilliamsBristol WestLDem (front bench)no aye
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDem (front bench)no aye
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)no absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)no absent
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)no absent
Mark OatenWinchesterLDem (front bench)no absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Bob RussellColchesterLDem (front bench)both aye
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)absent aye
David HeathSomerton and FromeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)absent aye
John PughSouthportLDem (front bench)absent aye
Adrian SandersTorbayLDem (front bench)absent aye
Sarah TeatherBrent EastLDem (front bench)absent aye
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDem (front bench)absent aye
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)no aye
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)no aye
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)no aye
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)aye absent
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)aye absent
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)no aye
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)no aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)no aye
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 645 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 281 voted the same way, with 103 voting in opposite ways. There were 49 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 212 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
281
(281 + 103 + 0.2x212)
=
281
426.4
= 0.659 = 65.9 %.


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