Comparison of Divisions: Opposition Day — [15th Allotted Day] — NHS (60th Anniversary) — 24 Jun 2008 at 21:51 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Opposition Day — [15th Allotted Day] — NHS (60th Anniversary) - 24 Jun 2008 at 21:51 - Division No. 229

I beg to move,

That this House celebrates 60 years of the NHS; recognises the support from all political parties for the NHS during that time; is grateful to NHS staff, past and present, who are the key to its success; commends their commitment and expertise in delivering patient care in often difficult circumstances; acknowledges the unique contribution of volunteers and charitable organisations; is committed to providing the NHS with the funding it needs to deliver European standards of healthcare to all; and recognises an opportunity in future to make the NHS more patient-centred by focusing on outcomes.

I beg to move, To leave out from "all;" to the end of the Question, and to add instead thereof:

"recognises an opportunity to make the NHS more patient-centred by focussing on outcomes; further recognises the defining contribution the NHS has made to the health and wellbeing of the nation since 1948; acknowledges that the principles upon which the NHS was established, funded by general taxation and free at the point of delivery, are immutable; accepts that target reductions in waiting times have significantly improved services to patients; and looks forward to the next 60 years of the NHS characterised by world-class quality healthcare as well as greater personalisation, individual choice and easier access to services.".

Question put, That the original words stand part of the Question:-

The House divided: Ayes 189, Noes 286.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by constituency

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLabno absent
Gerald HowarthAldershotCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard ShepherdAldridge-BrownhillsCon (front bench)absent aye
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)no absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
David LidingtonAylesburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)no absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)no absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)no absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)no absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)no absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)absent aye
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)no absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabno absent
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLababsent aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentno aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLabno absent
David CrausbyBolton North EastLab (minister)absent no
David TredinnickBosworthConabsent aye
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)aye absent
Sarah TeatherBrent EastLDem (front bench)absent aye
Dawn ButlerBrent SouthLab (minister)absent no
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)aye absent
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
Kitty UssherBurnleyLab (minister)absent no
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)absent aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)absent aye
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst UKIP (front bench)no absent
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)absent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Christopher ChopeChristchurchCon (front bench)absent aye
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLabno aye
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Geoffrey Clifton-BrownCotswoldCon (front bench)absent aye
Bob AinsworthCoventry North EastLab (minister)absent no
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Rosemary McKennaCumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch EastLab (minister)absent no
Alan MilburnDarlingtonLababsent no
Michael AncramDevizesCon (front bench)absent aye
Shahid MalikDewsburyLab (minister)absent no
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)no absent
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)aye absent
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)absent aye
Andrew SlaughterEaling, Acton and Shepherd's BushLab (minister)absent no
Michael MatesEast HampshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)no absent
Jim MurphyEast RenfrewshireLab (minister)absent no
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)absent aye
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLab (minister)no absent
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
Colin BurgonElmetLabno absent
Chris GraylingEpsom and EwellCon (front bench)absent aye
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)absent aye
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConabsent aye
Mark DurkanFoyleSDLP (front bench)no absent
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)aye absent
Edward LeighGainsboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul ClarkGillinghamLab (minister)absent no
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)no absent
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)no absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Adam HollowayGraveshamCon (front bench)absent aye
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)no absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabno aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)no aye
Derek TwiggHaltonLab (minister)absent no
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLababsent aye
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDem (front bench)absent aye
Tony McNultyHarrow EastLab (minister)absent no
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLababsent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Peter LilleyHitchin and HarpendenConabsent aye
James BrokenshireHornchurchCon (front bench)absent aye
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)no absent
Lee ScottIlford NorthCon (front bench)absent aye
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)no absent
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabno aye
Emily ThornberryIslington South and FinsburyLab (minister)absent no
Des BrowneKilmarnock and LoudounLab (minister)absent no
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)no absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)no absent
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)no absent
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)no aye
Norman BakerLewesLDem (front bench)absent aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Michael FabricantLichfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabno absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)no aye
Philip DunneLudlowCon (front bench)absent aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Theresa MayMaidenheadCon (front bench)absent aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdConabsent aye
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLababsent no
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabno aye
Dai HavardMerthyr Tydfil and RhymneyLab (minister)absent no
Nicholas SoamesMid SussexCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)aye absent
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)no absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
Richard BenyonNewburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)no aye
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye
Kevan JonesNorth DurhamLab (minister)absent no
Alistair BurtNorth East BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Natascha EngelNorth East DerbyshireLababsent no
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
James ArbuthnotNorth East HampshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Bernard JenkinNorth EssexCon (front bench)absent aye
Simon HughesNorth Southwark and BermondseyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)absent aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabno absent
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabno aye
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabno absent
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)aye absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)absent aye
Yvette CooperPontefract and CastlefordLab (minister)absent no
Jim FitzpatrickPoplar and Canning TownLab (minister)absent no
Paul TruswellPudseyLabno aye
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)aye absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Kevin BarronRother ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)aye absent
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)absent aye
John GroganSelbyLab (minister)absent no
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLabno absent
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)no absent
Derek WyattSittingbourne and SheppeyLab (minister)absent no
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)absent aye
Fiona MactaggartSloughLab (minister)absent no
Lorely BurtSolihullLDem (front bench)absent aye
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Eddie McGradySouth DownSDLPno absent
Richard BaconSouth NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
David BorrowSouth RibbleLab (minister)absent no
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)no absent
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)no absent
Charlotte AtkinsStaffordshire MoorlandsLab (minister)absent no
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)no absent
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)no absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLababsent aye
Bill CashStoneCon (front bench)absent aye
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew MitchellSutton ColdfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)no aye
Angela BrowningTiverton and HonitonCon (front bench)absent aye
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)aye absent
David LammyTottenhamLab (minister)absent no
Greg ClarkTunbridge WellsCon (front bench)absent aye
David SimpsonUpper BannDUP (front bench)aye absent
John SmithVale of GlamorganLab (minister)absent no
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)no aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Claire WardWatfordLab (minister)absent tellno
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)aye absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)no absent
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestCon (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 644 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 384 voted the same way, with 23 voting in opposite ways. There were 60 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 177 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
384
(384 + 23 + 0.2x177)
=
384
442.4
= 0.868 = 86.8 %.


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