Comparison of Divisions: Planning Bill — Right of oral representations — rejected — 25 Jun 2008 at 16:45 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) : Planning Bill — Right of oral representations — rejected - 25 Jun 2008 at 16:45 - Division No. 233

The majority of MPs voted against giving the right to make oral representations to the single planning commissioner, or panel of planning commissioners, who were handling the application.[1]

This proposed change to the Bill was intended to preserve the right for interested parties to cross-examine the applicant, which exists in the current planning system.[2]

Under the new system brought about by this Planning Bill, the evidence would be received in written form,[3] although the Examining Authority (either a single commissioner or a panel of commissioners) could choose to hold hearings on a specific issue[4] or open floor hearings[5] (which does not include the right to ask questions).[2]

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by name

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

Sort by: Name | Constituency | Party | Vote (a) | Vote (b)

NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Nick AingerCarmarthen West and South PembrokeshireLab (minister)absent no
James ArbuthnotNorth East HampshireCon (front bench)absent aye
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)no absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)no absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)no absent
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)aye absent
David BorrowSouth RibbleLab (minister)absent no
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)aye absent
Julian BrazierCanterburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)no absent
Colin BurgonElmetLabaye absent
Lorely BurtSolihullLDem (front bench)absent aye
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLabno absent
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLabno absent
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)aye absent
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Colin ChallenMorley and RothwellLab (minister)aye no
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)no absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)aye absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabno absent
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)aye absent
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)no absent
David CrausbyBolton North EastLab (minister)absent no
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLab (minister)no absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Frank DobsonHolborn and St PancrasLababsent no
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
David DrewStroudLab (minister)aye no
Natascha EngelNorth East DerbyshireLababsent no
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabno absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConaye absent
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)no aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno aye
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)aye absent
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)absent aye
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)no absent
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)absent aye
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)no absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)aye absent
John GroganSelbyLab (minister)aye no
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)no absent
Dai HavardMerthyr Tydfil and RhymneyLab (minister)absent no
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)aye absent
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabno absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)no absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)no absent
Adam HollowayGraveshamCon (front bench)absent aye
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)no absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)aye absent
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)aye absent
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabno aye
Bernard JenkinNorth EssexCon (front bench)absent aye
Kevan JonesNorth DurhamLab (minister)absent no
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)aye absent
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabno absent
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)aye absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)no absent
Stephen LadymanSouth ThanetLababsent no
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
David LidingtonAylesburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)no absent
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)no aye
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabno absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabno absent
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)aye absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLabno aye
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Michael MatesEast HampshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Francis MaudeHorshamCon (front bench)aye absent
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabno absent
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLababsent no
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)no absent
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLabno aye
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabaye absent
Alan MealeMansfieldLabno absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)no absent
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)no absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)no absent
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Elliot MorleyScunthorpeLababsent no
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)no absent
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)aye absent
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)no absent
Mark OatenWinchesterLDem (front bench)aye absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)no absent
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)no absent
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)no aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
Gordon PrenticePendleLab (minister)aye no
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)no absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)no aye
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)no absent
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLabno absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)no aye
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)no absent
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)aye absent
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)no absent
Barry SheermanHuddersfieldLab (minister)absent no
Clare ShortBirmingham, Ladywoodwhilst Independent Labouraye absent
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)no absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)no absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst UKIP (front bench)aye absent
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)aye absent
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLab (minister)no absent
Graham StringerManchester, BlackleyLab (minister)absent no
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)no absent
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)absent both
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)no absent
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)no absent
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)no aye
Theresa VilliersChipping BarnetCon (front bench)absent aye
Robert WalterNorth DorsetConaye absent
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)absent aye
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)absent aye
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)no absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 644 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 459 voted the same way, with 21 voting in opposite ways. There were 40 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 124 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
459
(459 + 21 + 0.2x124)
=
459
504.8
= 0.909 = 90.9 %.


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