Comparison of Divisions: Consolidated Fund (Appropriation) (No. 2) Bill — Criminal Evidence (Witness Anonymity) Bill (Allocation of Time) — 8 Jul 2008 at 16:32 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Consolidated Fund (Appropriation) (No. 2) Bill — Criminal Evidence (Witness Anonymity) Bill (Allocation of Time) - 8 Jul 2008 at 16:32 - Division No. 254

I beg to move, That the following provisions shall apply to the Criminal Evidence (Witness Anonymity) Bill:

Timetable

The House having divided: Ayes 283, Noes 145.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)no absent
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)no absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConno absent
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)no absent
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)no absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)no absent
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)no absent
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)no absent
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)no absent
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)no absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)no absent
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no absent
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)no absent
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)no absent
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)no absent
James ArbuthnotNorth East HampshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Tony BaldryBanburyConabsent aye
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
Peter BoneWellingboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Graham BradyAltrincham and Sale WestCon (front bench)absent aye
James BrokenshireHornchurchCon (front bench)absent aye
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Douglas CarswellHarwichCon (front bench)absent aye
Bill CashStoneCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen CrabbPreseli PembrokeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Jonathan DjanoglyHuntingdonCon (front bench)absent aye
Philip DunneLudlowCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael FallonSevenoaksCon (front bench)absent aye
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)absent aye
Damian GreenAshfordCon (front bench)absent aye
William HagueRichmond (Yorks)Con (front bench)absent aye
Stephen HammondWimbledonCon (front bench)absent aye
Greg HandsHammersmith and FulhamCon (front bench)absent aye
Adam HollowayGraveshamCon (front bench)absent aye
Stewart JacksonPeterboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Bernard JenkinNorth EssexCon (front bench)absent aye
Daniel KawczynskiShrewsbury and AtchamCon (front bench)absent aye
Robert KeySalisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Greg KnightEast YorkshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward LeighGainsboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKayBracknellCon (front bench)absent aye
Theresa MayMaidenheadCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick McLoughlinWest DerbyshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick MercerNewarkCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne MiltonGuildfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Brooks NewmarkBraintreeCon (front bench)absent aye
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew RobathanBlabyCon (front bench)absent aye
Laurence RobertsonTewkesburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew SelousSouth West BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard ShepherdAldridge-BrownhillsCon (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas SoamesMid SussexCon (front bench)absent aye
Caroline SpelmanMeridenCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael SpicerWest WorcestershireCon (front bench)absent aye
David TredinnickBosworthConabsent aye
Shailesh VaraNorth West CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter ViggersGosportCon (front bench)absent aye
Rob WilsonReading EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Ann WintertonCongletonCon (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas WintertonMacclesfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)aye aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentaye aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)aye aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)aye aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabaye aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)aye aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)aye aye
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)aye aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)aye aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabaye aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)aye aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLabaye aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLabaye aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)aye aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)aye aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)aye aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabaye aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)aye both
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)aye absent
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)aye absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Colin BurgonElmetLabaye absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabaye absent
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLabaye absent
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLabaye absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)aye absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabaye absent
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabaye absent
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)aye absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabaye absent
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)aye absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)aye absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)aye absent
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabaye absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)aye absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)aye absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)aye absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)aye absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabaye absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)aye absent
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)aye absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabaye absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabaye absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)aye absent
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabaye absent
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)aye absent
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabaye absent
Alan MealeMansfieldLabaye absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)aye absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)aye absent
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)aye absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)aye absent
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)aye absent
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)aye absent
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)aye absent
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLab (minister)aye absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)aye absent
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)aye absent
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)aye absent
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabaye absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabaye absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)aye absent
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLababsent aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLababsent aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLababsent aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)absent aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Nick AingerCarmarthen West and South PembrokeshireLab (minister)absent no
Ian AustinDudley NorthLab (minister)absent no
Liz BlackmanErewashLab (minister)absent no
David BorrowSouth RibbleLab (minister)absent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Lyn BrownWest HamLab (minister)absent no
Nick BrownNewcastle upon Tyne East and WallsendLab (minister)absent no
Tom ClarkeCoatbridge, Chryston and BellshillLab (minister)absent no
Vernon CoakerGedlingLab (minister)absent no
Michael ConnartyLinlithgow and East FalkirkLab (minister)absent no
Rosie CooperWest LancashireLab (minister)absent no
David CrausbyBolton North EastLab (minister)absent no
Mary CreaghWakefieldLab (minister)absent no
Ann CryerKeighleyLab (minister)absent no
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
Ian DavidsonGlasgow South WestLab (minister)absent no
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Natascha EngelNorth East DerbyshireLababsent no
Barry GardinerBrent NorthLab (minister)absent no
Paul GogginsWythenshawe and Sale EastLab (minister)absent no
Dai HavardMerthyr Tydfil and RhymneyLab (minister)absent no
John HealeyWentworthLab (minister)absent no
Keith HillStreathamLab (minister)absent no
Sharon HodgsonGateshead East and Washington WestLab (minister)absent no
Kim HowellsPontypriddLab (minister)absent no
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLababsent no
Kevan JonesNorth DurhamLab (minister)absent no
Andrew LoveEdmontonLab (minister)absent no
Thomas McAvoyRutherglen and Hamilton WestLab (minister)absent no
John McFallWest DunbartonshireLab (minister)absent no
Jim McGovernDundee WestLab (minister)absent no
Jim MurphyEast RenfrewshireLab (minister)absent no
Dawn PrimaroloBristol SouthLab (minister)absent no
Frank RoyMotherwell and WishawLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Joan RyanEnfield NorthLab (minister)absent no
Jonathan R ShawChatham and AylesfordLab (minister)absent no
Gerry SutcliffeBradford SouthLab (minister)absent no
Gareth ThomasHarrow WestLab (minister)absent no
Mark ToddSouth DerbyshireLab (minister)absent no
Derek TwiggHaltonLab (minister)absent no
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)both absent
Danny AlexanderInverness, Nairn, Badenoch and StrathspeyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Norman BakerLewesLDem (front bench)absent aye
John BarrettEdinburgh WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)absent aye
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)absent aye
Annette BrookeMid Dorset and North PooleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Lorely BurtSolihullLDem (front bench)absent aye
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDemabsent aye
Don FosterBathLDem (front bench)absent aye
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDem (front bench)absent aye
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)absent aye
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)absent aye
David HeathSomerton and FromeLDem (front bench)absent aye
John HemmingBirmingham, YardleyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)absent aye
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
David HowarthCambridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Simon HughesNorth Southwark and BermondseyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)absent aye
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)absent aye
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
John PughSouthportLDem (front bench)absent aye
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Dan RogersonNorth CornwallLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Bob RussellColchesterLDem (front bench)absent aye
Adrian SandersTorbayLDem (front bench)absent aye
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)absent aye
Andrew StunellHazel GroveLDemabsent aye
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemabsent aye
Sarah TeatherBrent EastLDem (front bench)absent aye
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)absent aye
Stephen WilliamsBristol WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDem (front bench)absent aye
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDem (front bench)absent aye
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mark DurkanFoyleSDLP (front bench)no absent
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)absent aye
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 644 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 22 voted the same way, with 336 voting in opposite ways. There were 59 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 227 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
336
(336 + 22 + 0.2x227)
=
336
403.4
= 0.833 = 83.3 %.


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