Comparison of Divisions: Orders of the Day — New Clause 9 — Power of authorities to provide services in exceptional circumstances — 27 Oct 2008 at 18:30 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Orders of the Day — New Clause 9 — Power of authorities to provide services in exceptional circumstances - 27 Oct 2008 at 18:30 - Division No. 289

I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.

The House having divided: Ayes 144, Noes 302.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by constituency

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Anne BeggAberdeen SouthLab (minister)absent no
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLabno absent
Gerald HowarthAldershotCon (front bench)absent aye
Graham BradyAltrincham and Sale WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)no absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
David LidingtonAylesburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Tony BaldryBanburyConabsent aye
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)no absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
Don FosterBathLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)no absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)no aye
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)no absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)no absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabno absent
John HemmingBirmingham, YardleyLDem (front bench)no aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLabno aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentno aye
David AndersonBlaydonLab (minister)absent no
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLabno absent
David CrausbyBolton North EastLab (minister)absent no
Ruth KellyBolton WestLababsent no
David TredinnickBosworthConabsent aye
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)aye absent
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)no absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Sarah TeatherBrent EastLDem (front bench)no aye
Madeleine MoonBridgendLab (minister)absent no
Ian Liddell-GraingerBridgwaterCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Doug NaysmithBristol North WestLab (minister)absent no
Stephen WilliamsBristol WestLDem (front bench)no aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)absent aye
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)no aye
Wayne DavidCaerphillyLab (minister)absent no
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)absent aye
Harriet HarmanCamberwell and PeckhamLab (minister)absent no
David HowarthCambridgeLDem (front bench)no aye
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDem (front bench)absent aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Alun MichaelCardiff South and PenarthLab (minister)absent no
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)absent aye
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst UKIP (front bench)aye absent
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)no aye
Stephen DorrellCharnwoodCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)no aye
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Dame Cheryl GillanChesham and AmershamCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)absent aye
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLabno aye
Bob RussellColchesterLDem (front bench)no aye
Geoffrey Clifton-BrownCotswoldCon (front bench)absent aye
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLabno absent
Rosemary McKennaCumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch EastLab (minister)absent no
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabno absent
Howard StoateDartfordLab (minister)absent no
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)aye absent
Michael AncramDevizesCon (front bench)absent aye
Caroline FlintDon ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Ian AustinDudley NorthLab (minister)absent no
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDem (front bench)no aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)absent aye
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLab (minister)absent no
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Hugo SwireEast DevonConabsent aye
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLababsent no
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)no absent
Tim LoughtonEast Worthing and ShorehamCon (front bench)absent aye
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mark LazarowiczEdinburgh North and LeithLab (minister)absent no
Nigel GriffithsEdinburgh SouthLab (minister)absent no
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
John BarrettEdinburgh WestLDem (front bench)no aye
Colin BurgonElmetLabno absent
Joan RyanEnfield NorthLababsent no
Chris GraylingEpsom and EwellCon (front bench)absent aye
Ben BradshawExeterLab (minister)absent no
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)no aye
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabno absent
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConabsent aye
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)aye absent
Mohammad SarwarGlasgow CentralLab (minister)absent no
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLabno absent
Tom HarrisGlasgow SouthLababsent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)no aye
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)no absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabno aye
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)no absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)absent aye
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenConaye absent
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabno aye
Edward GarnierHarboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDem (front bench)absent aye
Iain WrightHartlepoolLab (minister)absent no
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabno aye
Andrew StunellHazel GroveLDemno aye
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)aye absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDem (front bench)no aye
Francis MaudeHorshamCon (front bench)aye absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)no absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)no absent
Danny AlexanderInverness, Nairn, Badenoch and StrathspeyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabno aye
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaConabsent aye
Des BrowneKilmarnock and LoudounLababsent no
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)no aye
Alan JohnsonKingston upon Hull West and HessleLab (minister)absent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)no absent
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)no absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)no absent
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)no aye
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)no absent
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)absent aye
Patricia HewittLeicester WestLababsent no
Norman BakerLewesLDem (front bench)no aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Michael ConnartyLinlithgow and East FalkirkLab (minister)absent no
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabno absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentno aye
Jim DevineLivingstonLab (minister)absent no
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)absent aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Nicholas WintertonMacclesfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdConabsent aye
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)no aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLababsent aye
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)absent aye
Caroline SpelmanMeridenCon (front bench)absent aye
Nadine DorriesMid BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Annette BrookeMid Dorset and North PooleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas SoamesMid SussexCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)aye absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)no absent
David HamiltonMidlothianLab (minister)absent no
Paul BeresfordMole ValleyCon (front bench)absent aye
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLab (minister)absent no
Frank RoyMotherwell and WishawLab (minister)absent no
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)no aye
Jessica MordenNewport EastLab (minister)absent no
Dan RogersonNorth CornwallLDem (front bench)no tellaye
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)no aye
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)no aye
James ArbuthnotNorth East HampshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Mark LancasterNorth East Milton KeynesCon (front bench)absent aye
Bernard JenkinNorth EssexCon (front bench)absent aye
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)no aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Simon HughesNorth Southwark and BermondseyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabno absent
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)absent both
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)aye absent
Steve WebbNorthavonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)no absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabno absent
Graham AllenNottingham NorthLababsent no
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabno aye
Gordon BanksOchil and South PerthshireLab (minister)absent no
Huw Irranca-DaviesOgmoreLab (minister)absent no
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabno absent
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)no absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)no aye
Douglas AlexanderPaisley and Renfrewshire SouthLab (minister)absent no
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)absent aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabno aye
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)no absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConaye absent
William HagueRichmond (Yorks)Con (front bench)absent aye
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Charles KennedyRoss, Skye and LochaberLDemno absent
Philip HammondRunnymede and WeybridgeCon (front bench)absent aye
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)aye absent
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLabno absent
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Derek WyattSittingbourne and SheppeyLab (minister)absent no
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)absent aye
Lorely BurtSolihullLDem (front bench)absent aye
David HeathSomerton and FromeLDem (front bench)no aye
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)no aye
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)no absent
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLabno absent
Gary StreeterSouth West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Christopher FraserSouth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
John PughSouthportLDem (front bench)no aye
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDem (front bench)no aye
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno aye
Michael GoveSurrey HeathCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)no aye
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)no aye
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)no aye
Angela BrowningTiverton and HonitonCon (front bench)absent aye
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)aye absent
Adrian SandersTorbayLDem (front bench)no aye
David LammyTottenhamLab (minister)absent no
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemabsent aye
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Chris RuaneVale of ClwydLab (minister)absent no
Anne McIntoshVale of YorkCon (front bench)absent aye
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)absent aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Denis MurphyWansbeckLab (minister)absent no
Claire WardWatfordLab (minister)absent tellno
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)aye absent
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)no aye
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
Rosie CooperWest LancashireLab (minister)absent no
Michael SpicerWest WorcestershireCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)absent aye
John PenroseWeston-Super-MareCon (front bench)absent aye
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)no absent
Mark OatenWinchesterLDem (front bench)no absent
Ben ChapmanWirral SouthLab (minister)absent no
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)aye absent
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)no aye
Paul GogginsWythenshawe and Sale EastLab (minister)absent no
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 645 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 327 voted the same way, with 54 voting in opposite ways. There were 62 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 202 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
327
(327 + 54 + 0.2x202)
=
327
421.4
= 0.776 = 77.6 %.


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