Comparison of Divisions: Orders of the Day — Clause 154 — Rules — 26 Nov 2008 at 19:15 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Orders of the Day — Clause 154 — Rules - 26 Nov 2008 at 19:15 - Division No. 341

Amendment made: No. 40, in page 83, line 41, at end insert-

'(6) Section 413(2) of the Insolvency Act 1986 (rules: duty to consult Insolvency Rules Committee) shall not apply to the first set of rules which is made in reliance on this section.'.- [Mark Tami.]

Amendment proposed: No. 5, in page 86, line 7, leave out clause 164 .-[Mr. Hoban.]

Question put, That the amendment be made:-

The House divided: Ayes 133, Noes 296.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by name

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabno aye
Bob AinsworthCoventry North EastLab (minister)absent no
Peter AinsworthEast SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
Danny AlexanderInverness, Nairn, Badenoch and StrathspeyLDem (front bench)no aye
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)no absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
Vera BairdRedcarLab (minister)absent no
Norman BakerLewesLDem (front bench)absent aye
Edward BallsNormantonLab (minister)absent no
Gregory BarkerBexhill and BattleCon (front bench)absent aye
John BarrettEdinburgh WestLDem (front bench)no aye
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)no absent
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)absent aye
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)no absent
Joe BentonBootleLab (minister)absent no
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
Roger BerryKingswoodLab (minister)absent no
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)aye absent
Hazel BlearsSalfordLab (minister)absent no
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLababsent no
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)no aye
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)no aye
Kevin BrennanCardiff WestLab (minister)absent no
Annette BrookeMid Dorset and North PooleLDem (front bench)no aye
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Lyn BrownWest HamLab (minister)absent no
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Angela BrowningTiverton and HonitonCon (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)no absent
Colin BurgonElmetLabno absent
David BurrowesEnfield, SouthgateCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)no aye
Lorely BurtSolihullLDem (front bench)both aye
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)aye absent
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLabno absent
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Alan CampbellTynemouthLab (minister)absent no
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)no absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)no absent
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)aye absent
Greg ClarkTunbridge WellsCon (front bench)absent aye
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Paul ClarkGillinghamLab (minister)absent no
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabno absent
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Geoffrey Clifton-BrownCotswoldCon (front bench)absent aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLababsent aye
Stephen CrabbPreseli PembrokeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabno absent
Ann CryerKeighleyLab (minister)absent no
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)absent aye
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentno aye
Andrew DismoreHendonLab (minister)absent no
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)no aye
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
Stephen DorrellCharnwoodCon (front bench)absent aye
Nadine DorriesMid BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David DrewStroudLab (minister)absent no
James DuddridgeRochford and Southend EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Iain Duncan SmithChingford and Woodford GreenConabsent aye
Philip DunneLudlowCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael FallonSevenoaksCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)no aye
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno aye
Caroline FlintDon ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Don FosterBathLDem (front bench)absent aye
Michael FosterWorcesterLab (minister)absent no
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)absent aye
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)absent aye
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)no absent
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDem (front bench)absent aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)no absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)no absent
Linda GilroyPlymouth, SuttonLab (minister)absent no
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabno absent
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)no aye
Paul GoodmanWycombeCon (front bench)absent aye
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Justine GreeningPutneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Dominic GrieveBeaconsfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Nia GriffithLlanelliLab (minister)absent no
William HagueRichmond (Yorks)Con (front bench)absent aye
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
Stephen HammondWimbledonCon (front bench)absent aye
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)aye absent
Harriet HarmanCamberwell and PeckhamLab (minister)absent no
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)no aye
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)no aye
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
David HeathSomerton and FromeLDem (front bench)no aye
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)aye absent
John HemmingBirmingham, YardleyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Nick HerbertArundel and South DownsCon (front bench)absent aye
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)no absent
Sharon HodgsonGateshead East and Washington WestLab (minister)absent no
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)absent aye
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
Philip HolloboneKetteringCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)no aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)aye absent
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDem (front bench)no aye
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)no absent
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConabsent aye
David HowarthCambridgeLDem (front bench)no aye
George HowarthKnowsley North and Sefton EastLab (minister)absent no
Gerald HowarthAldershotCon (front bench)absent aye
John HowellHenleyCon (front bench)absent aye
Kim HowellsPontypriddLababsent no
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Simon HughesNorth Southwark and BermondseyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)absent aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)no aye
Nick HurdRuislip - NorthwoodCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)aye absent
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLababsent aye
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
Bernard JenkinNorth EssexCon (front bench)absent aye
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
Gerald KaufmanManchester, GortonLab (minister)absent no
Sally KeebleNorthampton NorthLab (minister)absent no
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)no absent
Ruth KellyBolton WestLababsent no
Jane KennedyLiverpool, WavertreeLab (minister)absent no
Sadiq KhanTootingLab (minister)absent no
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabno absent
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)aye absent
Greg KnightEast YorkshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Andrew LansleySouth CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)no aye
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)no aye
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
Julian LewisNew Forest EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian Liddell-GraingerBridgwaterCon (front bench)absent aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)no absent
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)absent aye
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabno absent
Fiona MactaggartSloughLab (minister)absent no
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)aye absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)aye absent
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLabno aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabno aye
Eric MartlewCarlisleLab (minister)absent no
John MasonGlasgow EastSNP (front bench)no aye
Michael MatesEast HampshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLababsent no
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabno aye
Jim McGovernDundee WestLab (minister)absent no
Anne McGuireStirlingLabno absent
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLabno aye
Rosemary McKennaCumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch EastLab (minister)absent no
Alan MealeMansfieldLabno absent
Alun MichaelCardiff South and PenarthLab (minister)absent no
Alan MilburnDarlingtonLababsent no
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)no absent
Andrew MitchellSutton ColdfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)no absent
Laura MoffattCrawleyLab (minister)absent no
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Jessica MordenNewport EastLab (minister)absent no
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Elliot MorleyScunthorpeLababsent no
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)aye absent
Meg MunnSheffield, HeeleyLababsent no
Denis MurphyWansbeckLab (minister)absent no
Paul MurphyTorfaenLab (minister)absent no
Stephen O'BrienEddisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)no absent
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)no absent
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
James PaiceSouth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Mike PenningHemel HempsteadCon (front bench)absent aye
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)absent aye
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)no absent
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)no aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)no aye
Mark PriskHertford and StortfordCon (front bench)absent aye
John PughSouthportLDem (front bench)absent aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
John RedwoodWokinghamConabsent aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)no aye
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)no absent
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)no tellaye
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLabno absent
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDem (front bench)both aye
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaConabsent aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)absent aye
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)no aye
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLabno absent
Geoffrey RobinsonCoventry North WestLababsent no
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Dan RogersonNorth CornwallLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Terry RooneyBradford NorthLab (minister)absent no
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)no absent
Bob RussellColchesterLDem (front bench)no aye
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)no absent
Adrian SandersTorbayLDem (front bench)absent aye
Alison SeabeckPlymouth, DevonportLababsent no
Richard ShepherdAldridge-BrownhillsCon (front bench)absent aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabno aye
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)no absent
Andrew SlaughterEaling, Acton and Shepherd's BushLab (minister)absent no
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLab (minister)absent no
Jacqui SmithRedditchLab (minister)absent no
John SmithVale of GlamorganLab (minister)absent no
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)absent aye
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLabno absent
Caroline SpelmanMeridenCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard SpringWest SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)aye absent
Ian StewartEcclesLab (minister)absent no
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLab (minister)no absent
Gary StreeterSouth West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Graham StringerManchester, BlackleyLab (minister)absent no
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)no absent
Andrew StunellHazel GroveLDemno aye
Gerry SutcliffeBradford SouthLab (minister)absent no
Hugo SwireEast DevonConabsent aye
Peter TapsellLouth and HorncastleConabsent aye
Dari TaylorStockton SouthLab (minister)absent no
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemno aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)absent aye
Sarah TeatherBrent EastLDem (front bench)absent aye
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)no aye
Don TouhigIslwynLab (minister)absent no
Jon TrickettHemsworthLab (minister)absent no
Paul TruswellPudseyLababsent aye
Shailesh VaraNorth West CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)absent aye
Peter ViggersGosportCon (front bench)absent aye
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabno absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Nigel WatersonEastbourneCon (front bench)absent aye
Angela WatkinsonUpminsterCon (front bench)absent aye
Steve WebbNorthavonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)no aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdConabsent aye
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)absent aye
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)no aye
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Stephen WilliamsBristol WestLDem (front bench)no aye
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDem (front bench)absent aye
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDem (front bench)no aye
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)aye absent
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLab (minister)absent no
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)absent aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabno aye
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)no absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 305 voted the same way, with 50 voting in opposite ways. There were 58 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 233 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
305
(305 + 50 + 0.2x233)
=
305
401.6
= 0.759 = 75.9 %.


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