Comparison of Divisions: Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat — 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 with Division No. 91 on 18 Apr 2007 at 15:45

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Vote (a) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

Vote (b) : Pensions Bill — Pensions Protection Lifeboat Fund - 18 Apr 2007 at 15:45 - Division No. 91

New clause tabled by the Conservatives

New Clause 41 - Pensions Protection Lifeboat Fund

‘(1) There shall be established as soon as reasonably practicable a Pension Protection Lifeboat Fund (“the Lifeboat Fund”) which shall be administered by the Board of the Pension Protection Fund (“the Board”).

(2) The purpose of the Lifeboat Fund shall be to make supplementary payments to persons who are qualifying members of qualifying schemes as defined by the Financial Assistance Scheme Regulations 2005 (S.I. 2006/1986) (or who would be qualifying members if the qualifying age for the Financial Assistance Scheme were set at the level of the qualifying scheme retirement age), in addition to the sums payable in any event under those regulations.

(3) The supplementary payments made to any person in accordance with subsection (2) shall equal the amount that, taken together with any amounts payable to that person under the Financial Assistance Scheme and amounts payable to that person as scheme benefits under the qualifying pension scheme in respect of which he is a qualifying member of the Financial Assistance Scheme (or would be a qualifying member if the qualifying age for the Financial Assistance Scheme were set at the level of the qualifying scheme retirement age), is the amount that would be payable to that person if that qualifying pension scheme was accepted into the Pension Protection Fund.

(4) The Secretary of State shall make such loans to the Lifeboat Fund as are necessary to allow the discharge of its functions and in particular its obligation to make supplementary payments under subsection (2).

(5) The Secretary of State shall make such loans from time to time having regard to—

(a) requests for such loans received from the Board;

(b) the amount of assets transferred or to be transferred to the Lifeboat Fund under the Scheme (as defined in section [Transfer of unclaimed assets] (“the Scheme”));

(c) the level of any claims on the Lifeboat Fund in respect of assets transferred to it under the Scheme.

(6) Loans made in accordance with this section must be repaid to the Secretary of State as soon as, in the reasonable opinion of the Board, it is prudent to do so having regard to—

(a) the obligations of the Lifeboat Fund;

(b) the amount of assets transferred or to be transferred to the Lifeboat Fund under the Scheme; and

(c) the level of claims on the Lifeboat Fund in respect of assets transferred to it under the Scheme.

(7) Loans made under this section shall be interest free.

(8) The assets of the Lifeboat Fund shall be held separately from the assets of any other fund under the control of the Board.

(9) The Secretary of State may by regulations make further provision in connection with the Lifeboat Fund.

(10) A statutory instrument containing regulations under this section is subject to annulment in pursuance of a resolution of either House of Parliament.’.— [Mr. Hammond.]

The House having divided: Ayes 260, Noes 282.

This Amendment was subsequently re-introduced in the Lords, and voted down again in the Commons.
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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

Sort by: Name | Constituency | Party | Vote (a) | Vote (b)

NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Michael AncramDevizesCon (front bench)aye absent
James ArbuthnotNorth East HampshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Tony BaldryBanburyConaye absent
Christopher ChopeChristchurchCon (front bench)aye absent
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)aye absent
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)aye absent
Adam HollowayGraveshamCon (front bench)aye absent
John HowellHenleyCon (front bench)aye absent
Bernard JenkinNorth EssexCon (front bench)aye absent
Julian LewisNew Forest EastCon (front bench)aye absent
Nicholas SoamesMid SussexCon (front bench)aye absent
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichCon (front bench)aye absent
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)absent aye
Derek ConwayOld Bexley and Sidcupwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenConabsent aye
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)absent aye
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)absent aye
Boris JohnsonHenleyCon (front bench)absent aye
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)absent aye
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)absent aye
Francis MaudeHorshamCon (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)absent aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPaye absent
David SimpsonUpper BannDUP (front bench)absent aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)aye absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)aye absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentaye absent
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabaye no
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)aye no
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)aye no
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)aye no
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)aye no
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)aye no
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabaye no
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)aye no
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLabaye no
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)aye no
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)aye no
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)aye no
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye no
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)aye no
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye no
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabaye absent
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)aye absent
Paul TruswellPudseyLabaye absent
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)aye absent
David DrewStroudLab (minister)no aye
Gordon PrenticePendleLab (minister)no aye
Tony WrightCannock ChaseLab (minister)no aye
Margaret BeckettDerby SouthLab (minister)no absent
Roger BerryKingswoodLab (minister)no absent
David BorrowSouth RibbleLab (minister)no absent
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)no absent
Liam ByrneBirmingham, Hodge HillLab (minister)no absent
Jim CousinsNewcastle upon Tyne CentralLab (minister)no absent
David CrausbyBolton North EastLab (minister)no absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)no absent
Bruce GeorgeWalsall SouthLabno absent
David HamiltonMidlothianLab (minister)no absent
Dai HavardMerthyr Tydfil and RhymneyLab (minister)no absent
Kevan JonesNorth DurhamLab (minister)no absent
Bob LaxtonDerby NorthLab (minister)no absent
Tom LevittHigh PeakLab (minister)no absent
Tony LloydManchester CentralLab (minister)no absent
Andrew MillerEllesmere Port and NestonLab (minister)no absent
Margaret MoranLuton SouthLab (minister)no absent
Jessica MordenNewport EastLab (minister)no absent
Chris MullinSunderland SouthLab (minister)no absent
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLab (minister)no absent
Christine RussellCity of ChesterLab (minister)no absent
Mohammad SarwarGlasgow CentralLab (minister)no absent
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLab (minister)no absent
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLab (minister)no absent
John SmithVale of GlamorganLab (minister)no absent
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLab (minister)no absent
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)both absent
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)absent aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)absent aye
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLababsent aye
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)absent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Lababsent aye
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)absent no
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)absent no
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)absent no
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)absent no
Colin BurgonElmetLababsent no
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLababsent no
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLababsent no
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)absent no
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)absent no
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)absent no
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLab (minister)absent no
Jon CruddasDagenhamLababsent no
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)absent no
Gwyneth DunwoodyCrewe and NantwichLababsent no
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)absent no
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)absent no
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLababsent no
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)absent no
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)absent no
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)absent no
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)absent no
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)absent no
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)absent no
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)absent no
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLababsent no
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLababsent no
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)absent no
Martin LintonBatterseaLababsent no
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLababsent no
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)absent no
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)absent no
Anne McGuireStirlingLababsent no
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)absent no
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)absent no
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)absent no
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)absent no
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)absent no
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)absent no
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLababsent no
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)absent no
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)absent no
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)absent no
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLababsent no
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLab (minister)absent no
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)absent no
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)absent no
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)absent no
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)absent no
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)aye absent
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)aye absent
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)aye absent
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDem (front bench)aye absent
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)absent aye
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)absent aye
Charles KennedyRoss, Skye and LochaberLDemabsent aye
Mark OatenWinchesterLDem (front bench)absent aye
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)absent aye
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)absent aye
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)aye absent
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)aye no
John MasonGlasgow EastSNP (front bench)aye absent
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)aye absent

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 445 voted the same way, with 20 voting in opposite ways. There were 52 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 129 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
445
(445 + 20 + 0.2x129)
=
445
490.8
= 0.907 = 90.7 %.


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