Comparison of Divisions: Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat — 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 with Division No. 237 on 30 Jun 2008 at 18:51

(Swap the two divisions around).

Vote (a) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

Vote (b) : Energy Security — Commends the Government's effort - 30 Jun 2008 at 18:51 - Division No. 237

The majority of MPs voted against the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • acknowledges that the security of the UK's energy supply has become of increasing importance over the last five years;
  • understands that with over eight GW of coal and a further seven GW of nuclear generating capacity coming offline in the next decade the UK faces a potentially serious energy gap by 2016;
  • regrets that with only 2 per cent. of the UK's energy needs coming from renewable sources, the UK is one of the worst performers in Europe;
  • notes that the Government's own Renewables Advisory Board has established that the UK is set to miss its EU renewables target for 2020 even with significant policy changes;
  • further notes that, as an island nation, the UK has major potential as a source of wave and tidal energy;
  • deplores the fact that the Marine Renewables Deployment Fund has not delivered monies to a single project since its creation in 2005;
  • regrets that the Government's latest Energy Bill contains insufficient provisions for feed-in tariffs for microgeneration,[2] the fast roll-out of smart meters or any serious help for the fuel poor; and
  • urgently presses the Government to act now to secure the UK's energy supplies for the future.

In its place a new motion was proposed:[3]

  • This House
  • acknowledges that the Government is addressing the recent sharp increases in fossil fuel prices, which reflect an imbalance between supply and demand in global markets, through international engagement;
  • recognises that the UK has the most competitive energy markets among the G7 nations, as recognised by independent analysts;
  • acknowledges the Government's success in establishing a market framework which encourages sharp increases in gas import and storage capacity;
  • further acknowledges the Government's success in establishing a clear framework for investment in new nuclear generation capacity through the Nuclear White Paper, and in setting out a blueprint for a historic expansion of renewable generation through the Renewable Energy Strategy consultation;
  • recognises the Government's work in promoting energy efficiency as an integral part of its strategy;
  • commends the Government's efforts to counter fuel poverty through the Winter Fuel Payment and through securing major financial commitments from energy supply companies;
  • notes the Government's support for microgeneration;
  • recognises that the Energy, Climate Change and Planning Bills will provide a legislative framework that is fit for purpose in changing market conditions and that supports the Government's policy objectives;
  • believes that the Opposition's failure to show clear leadership on energy could put at risk Great Britain's energy security;
  • condemns their failure to support the Government's Renewables Obligation; and
  • deplores their opposition to the Planning Bill, which will provide greater certainty for major infrastructure building and help secure Great Britain's future energy independence.

which passed without a further vote.

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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Peter AinsworthEast SurreyCon (front bench)aye absent
John BaronBillericayCon (front bench)aye absent
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestCon (front bench)aye absent
Simon BurnsWest ChelmsfordCon (front bench)aye absent
Alistair BurtNorth East BedfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)aye absent
Bill CashStoneCon (front bench)aye absent
Stephen CrabbPreseli PembrokeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Philip DunneLudlowCon (front bench)aye absent
Tobias EllwoodBournemouth EastCon (front bench)aye absent
Mark FieldCities of London and WestminsterCon (front bench)aye absent
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)aye absent
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)aye absent
John GummerSuffolk CoastalConaye absent
William HagueRichmond (Yorks)Con (front bench)aye absent
Stephen HammondWimbledonCon (front bench)aye absent
Greg HandsHammersmith and FulhamCon (front bench)aye absent
Philip HolloboneKetteringCon (front bench)aye absent
Gerald HowarthAldershotCon (front bench)aye absent
Greg KnightEast YorkshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Eleanor LaingEpping ForestCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew LansleySouth CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Julian LewisNew Forest EastCon (front bench)aye absent
Ian Liddell-GraingerBridgwaterCon (front bench)aye absent
Maria MillerBasingstokeCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew MitchellSutton ColdfieldCon (front bench)aye absent
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstCon (front bench)aye absent
Mark PriskHertford and StortfordCon (front bench)aye absent
Mark PritchardThe WrekinCon (front bench)aye absent
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaConaye absent
Laurence RobertsonTewkesburyCon (front bench)aye absent
Caroline SpelmanMeridenCon (front bench)aye absent
Graham StuartBeverley and HoldernessCon (front bench)aye absent
Hugo SwireEast DevonConaye absent
Shailesh VaraNorth West CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Theresa VilliersChipping BarnetCon (front bench)aye absent
Ben WallaceLancaster and WyreCon (front bench)aye absent
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdConaye absent
David WillettsHavantCon (front bench)aye absent
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)absent aye
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)absent aye
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConabsent aye
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)absent aye
John GreenwayRyedaleConabsent aye
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)absent aye
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)absent aye
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)absent aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)absent aye
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)absent aye
Robert WalterNorth DorsetConabsent aye
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)absent aye
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)aye absent
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)aye absent
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)aye absent
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)aye absent
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPaye absent
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)aye absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentaye no
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentaye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)aye absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)aye absent
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)aye absent
Derek ConwayOld Bexley and Sidcupwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)aye no
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)aye no
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)aye no
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabaye no
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)aye no
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)aye no
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)aye no
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLabaye no
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabaye no
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)aye no
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)aye no
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)aye no
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)aye no
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye no
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)aye no
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye no
Paul TruswellPudseyLabaye no
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)aye no
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabaye absent
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabaye absent
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)aye absent
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabaye absent
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)aye absent
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabaye absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)aye absent
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabaye absent
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabaye absent
Nick AingerCarmarthen West and South PembrokeshireLab (minister)no absent
Douglas AlexanderPaisley and Renfrewshire SouthLab (minister)no absent
Janet AndersonRossendale and DarwenLab (minister)no absent
Charlotte AtkinsStaffordshire MoorlandsLab (minister)no absent
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)no absent
Ben BradshawExeterLab (minister)no absent
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)no absent
Lyn BrownWest HamLabno absent
Colin ChallenMorley and RothwellLab (minister)no absent
Paul ClarkGillinghamLab (minister)no absent
Michael ConnartyLinlithgow and East FalkirkLab (minister)no absent
Mary CreaghWakefieldLab (minister)no absent
Ian DavidsonGlasgow South WestLab (minister)no absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)no absent
Andrew DismoreHendonLab (minister)no absent
Clive EffordElthamLabno absent
Natascha EngelNorth East DerbyshireLabno absent
Barbara FollettStevenageLab (minister)no absent
Barry GardinerBrent NorthLabno absent
Bruce GeorgeWalsall SouthLabno absent
Paul GogginsWythenshawe and Sale EastLab (minister)no absent
John GroganSelbyLab (minister)no absent
Mark HendrickPrestonLab (minister)no absent
Phil HopeCorbyLab (minister)no absent
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLabno absent
Sally KeebleNorthampton NorthLab (minister)no absent
David LammyTottenhamLab (minister)no absent
Gillian MerronLincolnLab (minister)no absent
Andrew MillerEllesmere Port and NestonLab (minister)no absent
Margaret MoranLuton SouthLab (minister)no absent
Elliot MorleyScunthorpeLabno absent
Meg MunnSheffield, HeeleyLabno absent
Denis MurphyWansbeckLab (minister)no absent
Jim MurphyEast RenfrewshireLab (minister)no absent
Frank RoyMotherwell and WishawLab (minister)no absent
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLab (minister)no absent
Mohammad SarwarGlasgow CentralLab (minister)no absent
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLab (minister)no absent
Howard StoateDartfordLab (minister)no absent
Gerry SutcliffeBradford SouthLab (minister)no absent
Emily ThornberryIslington South and FinsburyLab (minister)no absent
Tony WrightCannock ChaseLab (minister)no absent
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)both no
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)absent no
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)absent no
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)absent no
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)absent no
Colin BurgonElmetLababsent no
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLababsent no
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLababsent no
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)absent no
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)absent no
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)absent no
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLab (minister)absent no
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)absent no
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLababsent no
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLababsent no
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)absent no
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)absent no
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)absent no
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLababsent no
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)absent no
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)absent no
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLababsent no
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)absent no
Margaret HodgeBarkingLababsent no
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)absent no
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)absent no
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)absent no
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)absent no
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)absent no
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLababsent no
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)absent no
Martin LintonBatterseaLababsent no
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLababsent no
Anne McGuireStirlingLababsent no
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)absent no
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)absent no
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)absent no
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)absent no
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)absent no
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)absent no
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)absent no
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)absent no
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)absent no
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLababsent no
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)absent no
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)absent no
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLababsent no
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)absent no
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)absent no
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLababsent no
Betty WilliamsConwyLababsent no
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)absent no
Don FosterBathLDem (front bench)aye no
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDem (front bench)aye no
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemaye no
Danny AlexanderInverness, Nairn, Badenoch and StrathspeyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)aye absent
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)aye absent
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)aye absent
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)aye absent
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)aye absent
David HeathSomerton and FromeLDem (front bench)aye absent
John HemmingBirmingham, YardleyLDem (front bench)aye absent
David HowarthCambridgeLDem (front bench)aye absent
Simon HughesNorth Southwark and BermondseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDemaye absent
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)aye absent
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)aye absent
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)aye absent
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)tellaye absent
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)aye absent
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)aye absent
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)aye absent
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)aye absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)absent aye
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)absent aye
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mark OatenWinchesterLDem (front bench)absent no
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)aye absent
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)aye absent
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)aye absent
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)aye absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNP (front bench)aye absent
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)aye absent
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)aye absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst UKIP (front bench)absent aye
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)aye absent

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 366 voted the same way, with 22 voting in opposite ways. There were 53 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 205 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
366
(366 + 22 + 0.2x205)
=
366
429
= 0.853 = 85.3 %.


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