Comparison of Divisions: Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat — 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 with Division No. 53 on 4 Mar 2009 at 14:23

(Swap the two divisions around).

Vote (a) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

Vote (b) (unedited): Prime Minister — Northern Ireland Bill (Allocation of Time) - 4 Mar 2009 at 14:23 - Division No. 53

I beg to move,

That the following provisions shall apply to the proceedings on the Northern Ireland Bill-

I beg to move amendment (a), in paragraph 1(1), leave out 'at today's sitting' and insert

'in two allotted days, which shall not be consecutive,'.

Question put, That the amendment be made.

The House divided: Ayes 213, Noes 276.

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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Peter AinsworthEast SurreyCon (front bench)aye absent
James ArbuthnotNorth East HampshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Richard BaconSouth NorfolkCon (front bench)aye absent
Gregory BarkerBexhill and BattleCon (front bench)aye absent
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Angela BrowningTiverton and HonitonCon (front bench)aye absent
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)aye absent
Bill CashStoneCon (front bench)aye absent
Geoffrey CoxTorridge and West DevonCon (front bench)aye absent
Iain Duncan SmithChingford and Woodford GreenConaye absent
Tobias EllwoodBournemouth EastCon (front bench)aye absent
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)aye absent
Nick GibbBognor Regis and LittlehamptonCon (front bench)aye absent
Robert GoodwillScarborough and WhitbyCon (front bench)aye absent
Chris GraylingEpsom and EwellCon (front bench)aye absent
Justine GreeningPutneyCon (front bench)aye absent
William HagueRichmond (Yorks)Con (front bench)aye absent
Mark HarperForest of DeanCon (front bench)aye absent
Charles HendryWealdenCon (front bench)aye absent
Nick HerbertArundel and South DownsCon (front bench)aye absent
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamCon (front bench)aye absent
Adam HollowayGraveshamCon (front bench)aye absent
Jeremy HuntSouth West SurreyCon (front bench)aye absent
Bernard JenkinNorth EssexCon (front bench)aye absent
David JonesClwyd WestCon (front bench)aye absent
Daniel KawczynskiShrewsbury and AtchamCon (front bench)aye absent
Robert KeySalisburyCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew LansleySouth CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Peter LilleyHitchin and HarpendenConaye absent
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)aye absent
Theresa MayMaidenheadCon (front bench)aye absent
Anne McIntoshVale of YorkCon (front bench)aye absent
Patrick McLoughlinWest DerbyshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)aye absent
Mark PriskHertford and StortfordCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew SelousSouth West BedfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Anthony SteenTotnesCon (front bench)aye absent
Peter TapsellLouth and HorncastleConaye absent
David TredinnickBosworthConaye absent
Andrew TyrieChichesterCon (front bench)aye absent
Ed VaizeyWantageCon (front bench)aye absent
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdConaye absent
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)aye absent
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)absent aye
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)absent aye
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)absent aye
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)absent aye
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenConabsent aye
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)absent aye
John GreenwayRyedaleConabsent aye
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)absent aye
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)absent aye
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)absent aye
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)absent aye
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)absent aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)absent aye
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)absent aye
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)absent aye
David SimpsonUpper BannDUP (front bench)absent aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)aye absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentaye absent
Clare ShortBirmingham, Ladywoodwhilst Independent Labourabsent aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)aye no
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabaye no
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)aye no
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)aye no
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)aye no
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)aye no
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabaye no
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLabaye no
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabaye no
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)aye no
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)aye no
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)aye no
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)aye no
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)aye no
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)aye no
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabaye no
Paul TruswellPudseyLabaye no
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)aye no
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabaye absent
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)aye absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabaye absent
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabaye absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye absent
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabaye absent
Vera BairdRedcarLab (minister)no absent
Edward BallsNormantonLab (minister)no absent
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)no absent
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)no absent
Joe BentonBootleLab (minister)no absent
Roberta Blackman-WoodsCity of DurhamLab (minister)no absent
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLabno absent
David BorrowSouth RibbleLab (minister)no absent
Kevin BrennanCardiff WestLab (minister)no absent
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)no absent
Ann ClwydCynon ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Jim CousinsNewcastle upon Tyne CentralLab (minister)no absent
David CrausbyBolton North EastLab (minister)no absent
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)no absent
Wayne DavidCaerphillyLab (minister)no absent
John DenhamSouthampton, ItchenLab (minister)no absent
Jim DowdLewisham WestLab (minister)no absent
Barry GardinerBrent NorthLabno absent
Linda GilroyPlymouth, SuttonLab (minister)no absent
David HamiltonMidlothianLab (minister)no absent
David HansonDelynLab (minister)no absent
Dai HavardMerthyr Tydfil and RhymneyLab (minister)no absent
Patricia HewittLeicester WestLabno absent
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLabno absent
Brian JenkinsTamworthLab (minister)no absent
Ann KeenBrentford and IsleworthLab (minister)no absent
Ruth KellyBolton WestLabno absent
Jane KennedyLiverpool, WavertreeLab (minister)no absent
Fiona MactaggartSloughLab (minister)no absent
Ann McKechinGlasgow NorthLab (minister)no absent
Alan MilburnDarlingtonLabno absent
Laura MoffattCrawleyLabno absent
Jessica MordenNewport EastLab (minister)no absent
Chris MullinSunderland SouthLab (minister)no absent
James PurnellStalybridge and HydeLab (minister)no absent
John SmithVale of GlamorganLab (minister)no absent
Helen SouthworthWarrington SouthLab (minister)no absent
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)no absent
Mark ToddSouth DerbyshireLab (minister)no absent
Dave WattsSt Helens NorthLab (minister)tellno absent
Malcolm WicksCroydon NorthLabno absent
Michael WillsNorth SwindonLab (minister)no absent
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)both absent
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)absent no
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)absent no
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)absent no
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)absent no
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)absent no
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)absent no
Colin BurgonElmetLababsent no
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLababsent no
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLababsent no
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)absent no
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)absent no
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)absent no
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)absent no
Jon CruddasDagenhamLababsent no
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)absent no
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)absent no
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)absent no
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)absent no
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLababsent no
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)absent no
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)absent no
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)absent no
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLababsent no
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)absent no
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)absent no
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)absent no
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)absent no
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)absent no
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)absent no
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLababsent no
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)absent no
Martin LintonBatterseaLababsent no
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLababsent no
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)absent no
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLababsent no
Anne McGuireStirlingLababsent no
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)absent no
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)absent no
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)absent no
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)absent no
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLababsent no
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)absent no
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)absent no
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)absent no
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)absent no
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)absent no
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLababsent no
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLab (minister)absent no
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)absent no
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)absent no
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)absent no
Betty WilliamsConwyLababsent no
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)absent no
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)absent no
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)aye absent
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)aye absent
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)aye absent
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)aye absent
Bob RussellColchesterLDem (front bench)aye absent
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)aye absent
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)absent aye
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)absent aye
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)aye absent
Mark DurkanFoyleSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Eddie McGradySouth DownSDLPabsent aye
John MasonGlasgow EastSNP (front bench)aye absent
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)aye absent
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)aye absent
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)aye absent

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 392 voted the same way, with 18 voting in opposite ways. There were 48 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 188 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
392
(392 + 18 + 0.2x188)
=
392
447.6
= 0.876 = 87.6 %.


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