Comparison of Divisions: Natural Environment and Rural Communities Bill (Programme) — 6 Jun 2005 at 21:59 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) : Natural Environment and Rural Communities Bill (Programme) - 6 Jun 2005 at 21:59 - Division No. 6

The issue in this division was whether to approve a programme motion for the Natural Environment and Rural Communities Bill, which required that the Standing Committee proceedings finish by 5th July. Those voting Aye agreed to this limit.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthConno absent
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)no absent
John ButterfillBournemouth WestConno absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)no absent
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)no absent
Derek ConwayOld Bexley and Sidcupwhilst Conno absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)no absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyCon (front bench)no absent
Eric ForthBromley and ChislehurstConno absent
James GrayNorth WiltshireConno absent
John GreenwayRyedaleConno absent
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)no absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)no absent
John HoramOrpingtonConno absent
Michael JackFyldeConno absent
Boris JohnsonHenleyConno absent
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveConno absent
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)no absent
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)no absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)no absent
Michael MatesEast HampshireConno absent
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no absent
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireConno absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Conno absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Conno absent
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)no absent
Robert WalterNorth DorsetCon (front bench)no absent
Gregory BarkerBexhill and BattleCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestConabsent aye
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David CurrySkipton and RiponConabsent aye
David DaviesMonmouthConabsent aye
Stephen DorrellCharnwoodConabsent aye
David EvennettBexleyheath and CrayfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Dame Cheryl GillanChesham and AmershamCon (front bench)absent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Eleanor LaingEpping ForestCon (front bench)absent aye
David LidingtonAylesburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter LilleyHitchin and HarpendenConabsent aye
Andrew MitchellSutton ColdfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstConabsent aye
Hugh RobertsonFaversham and Mid KentCon (front bench)absent aye
Laurence RobertsonTewkesburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Hugo SwireEast DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Ian PaisleyNorth AntrimDUP (front bench)no absent
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independentabsent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independentabsent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)aye aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLabaye aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabaye aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)aye aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLabaye aye
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)aye aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLabaye aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabaye aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLabaye aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLabaye aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabaye aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabaye aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLabaye aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLabaye aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLabaye aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLabaye aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLabaye aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabaye aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLabaye aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabaye aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLabaye both
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLabaye absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)aye absent
John BattleLeeds WestLabaye absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabaye absent
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLabaye absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLabaye absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLabaye absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Frank CookStockton NorthLabaye absent
Robin CookLivingstonLabaye absent
Jon CruddasDagenhamLab (minister)aye absent
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLabaye absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLabaye absent
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabaye absent
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)aye absent
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)aye absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLabaye absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabaye absent
Mike HallWeaver ValeLabaye absent
Patrick HallBedfordLabaye absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)aye absent
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabaye absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)aye absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLabaye absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)aye absent
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)aye absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)aye absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLabaye absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLabaye absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLabaye absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLabaye absent
Piara S KhabraEaling, SouthallLabaye absent
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabaye absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLabaye absent
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Martin LintonBatterseaLabaye absent
John MacDougallGlenrothesLabaye absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabaye absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabaye absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLabaye absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)aye absent
David MarshallGlasgow EastLabaye absent
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)aye absent
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabaye absent
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)aye absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLabaye absent
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)aye absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLabaye absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLabaye absent
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLabaye absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)aye absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLabaye absent
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)aye absent
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLab (minister)aye absent
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)aye absent
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLab (minister)aye absent
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)aye absent
Clare ShortBirmingham, Ladywoodwhilst Labaye absent
Marsha SinghBradford WestLabaye absent
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLabaye absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)aye absent
Paddy TippingSherwoodLabaye absent
Neil TurnerWiganLabaye absent
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabaye absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labaye absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabaye absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLabaye absent
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLababsent aye
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLababsent aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLababsent aye
Janet AndersonRossendale and DarwenLababsent no
Margaret BeckettDerby SouthLab (minister)absent no
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLab (minister)absent no
Ben BradshawExeterLab (minister)absent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Nick BrownNewcastle upon Tyne East and WallsendLababsent no
Yvette CooperPontefract and CastlefordLab (minister)absent no
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
John DenhamSouthampton, ItchenLab (minister)absent no
Jim DevineLivingstonLababsent no
Brian H DonohoeCentral AyrshireLab (minister)absent no
Natascha EngelNorth East DerbyshireLababsent no
Peter HainNeathLab (minister)absent no
David HamiltonMidlothianLab (minister)absent no
David HansonDelynLab (minister)absent no
Kim HowellsPontypriddLab (minister)absent no
Tessa JowellDulwich and West NorwoodLab (minister)absent no
Ruth KellyBolton WestLab (minister)absent no
Stephen LadymanSouth ThanetLab (minister)absent no
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLab (minister)absent no
Alan MilburnDarlingtonLababsent no
Mike O'BrienNorth WarwickshireLab (minister)absent no
Ian PearsonDudley SouthLab (minister)absent no
James PlaskittWarwick and LeamingtonLab (minister)absent no
Geoffrey RobinsonCoventry North WestLababsent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Mohammad SarwarGlasgow CentralLababsent no
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Angela SmithBasildonLab (minister)absent no
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)absent no
Graham StringerManchester, BlackleyLab (minister)absent no
Gareth ThomasHarrow WestLab (minister)absent no
Derek TwiggHaltonLab (minister)absent no
Kitty UssherBurnleyLababsent no
Claire WardWatfordLab (minister)absent tellno
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
David WrightTelfordLab (minister)absent no
Tony WrightCannock ChaseLababsent no
Danny AlexanderInverness, Nairn, Badenoch and StrathspeyLDem (front bench)aye aye
Norman BakerLewesLDem (front bench)aye aye
John BarrettEdinburgh WestLDemaye aye
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)aye aye
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)aye aye
Annette BrookeMid Dorset and North PooleLDem (front bench)aye aye
Malcolm BruceGordonLDemaye aye
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)aye aye
Lorely BurtSolihullLDem (front bench)aye aye
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)aye aye
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)aye aye
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)aye aye
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDem (front bench)aye aye
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)aye aye
David HeathSomerton and FromeLDem (front bench)aye aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)aye aye
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDemaye aye
David HowarthCambridgeLDem (front bench)aye aye
Simon HughesNorth Southwark and BermondseyLDem (front bench)aye aye
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)aye aye
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)aye aye
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDemaye aye
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)aye aye
John PughSouthportLDem (front bench)aye aye
Dan RogersonNorth CornwallLDem (front bench)aye tellaye
Bob RussellColchesterLDem (front bench)aye aye
Adrian SandersTorbayLDem (front bench)aye aye
Andrew StunellHazel GroveLDem (front bench)aye aye
Sarah TeatherBrent EastLDem (front bench)aye aye
Steve WebbNorthavonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)aye aye
Stephen WilliamsBristol WestLDem (front bench)aye aye
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)aye absent
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)aye absent
Paul RowenRochdaleLDemaye absent
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDem (front bench)absent aye
Don FosterBathLDem (front bench)absent aye
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)absent aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDemabsent aye
John HemmingBirmingham, YardleyLDemabsent aye
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDemabsent aye
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)absent aye
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDem (front bench)absent aye
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)absent aye
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDemabsent aye
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDemabsent aye
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDemabsent aye
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)absent aye
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLPabsent aye
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)no absent
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)no absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 644 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 58 voted the same way, with 367 voting in opposite ways. There were 34 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 185 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
367
(367 + 58 + 0.2x185)
=
367
462
= 0.794 = 79.4 %.


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