Comparison of Divisions: Identity Cards Bill — Money — 28 Jun 2005 at 22:18 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

(Swap the two divisions around).

Vote (a) : Identity Cards Bill — Money - 28 Jun 2005 at 22:18 - Division No. 22

The Aye-voters agreed to authorize the payments from the Treasury to the National Identity Scheme Commissioner, the Home Secretary, and to any other department whose costs are increased as a result of the passing of the Identity Cards Bill.

This vote is a formality which shows that Parliament is supposedly in control of all public money spent by the government.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthConno absent
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)no absent
Derek ConwayOld Bexley and Sidcupwhilst Conno absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)no absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyCon (front bench)no absent
Eric ForthBromley and ChislehurstConno absent
James GrayNorth WiltshireConno absent
John GreenwayRyedaleConno absent
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)no absent
John HoramOrpingtonConno absent
Michael JackFyldeConno absent
Boris JohnsonHenleyConno absent
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)no absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)no absent
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)no absent
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireConno absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Conno absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Conno absent
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)no absent
Peter AinsworthEast SurreyConabsent aye
Michael AncramDevizesCon (front bench)absent aye
Tony BaldryBanburyConabsent aye
John BaronBillericayCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestConabsent aye
Graham BradyAltrincham and Sale WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Angela BrowningTiverton and HonitonCon (front bench)absent aye
Simon BurnsWest ChelmsfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Geoffrey Clifton-BrownCotswoldCon (front bench)absent aye
David CurrySkipton and RiponConabsent aye
Stephen DorrellCharnwoodConabsent aye
Iain Duncan SmithChingford and Woodford GreenConabsent aye
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick GibbBognor Regis and LittlehamptonCon (front bench)absent aye
John GummerSuffolk CoastalConabsent aye
William HagueRichmond (Yorks)Conabsent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Robert KeySalisburyConabsent aye
Edward LeighGainsboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Julian LewisNew Forest EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter LilleyHitchin and HarpendenConabsent aye
Tim LoughtonEast Worthing and ShorehamCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKayBracknellCon (front bench)absent aye
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne MainSt AlbansConabsent aye
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstConabsent aye
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Mike PenningHemel HempsteadConabsent aye
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)absent aye
John RedwoodWokinghamConabsent aye
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew RobathanBlabyCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard ShepherdAldridge-BrownhillsCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark SimmondsBoston and SkegnessCon (front bench)absent aye
Keith SimpsonMid NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Caroline SpelmanMeridenCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard SpringWest SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Gary StreeterSouth West DevonConabsent aye
Ian TaylorEsher and WaltonConabsent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Theresa VilliersChipping BarnetCon (front bench)absent aye
Nigel WatersonEastbourneCon (front bench)absent aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdConabsent aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkConabsent aye
George YoungNorth West HampshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian PaisleyNorth AntrimDUP (front bench)no absent
Iris RobinsonStrangfordDUPno absent
David SimpsonUpper BannDUP (front bench)no absent
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independentabsent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independentabsent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)tellaye aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLabaye aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)aye aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLabaye aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLabaye aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLabaye aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLabaye aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLabaye aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLabaye aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLabaye aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLabaye aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLabaye both
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLabaye absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)aye absent
John BattleLeeds WestLabaye absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Colin BurgonElmetLabaye absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabaye absent
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLabaye absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Robin CookLivingstonLabaye absent
Jon CruddasDagenhamLab (minister)aye absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLabaye absent
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabaye absent
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)aye absent
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)aye absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLabaye absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabaye absent
Mike HallWeaver ValeLabaye absent
Patrick HallBedfordLabaye absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)aye absent
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabaye absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)aye absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLabaye absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)aye absent
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)aye absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)aye absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLabaye absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLabaye absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLabaye absent
Piara S KhabraEaling, SouthallLabaye absent
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabaye absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLabaye absent
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Martin LintonBatterseaLabaye absent
John MacDougallGlenrothesLabaye absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabaye absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabaye absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLabaye absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)aye absent
David MarshallGlasgow EastLabaye absent
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabaye absent
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)aye absent
Alan MealeMansfieldLabaye absent
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)aye absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLabaye absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLabaye absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLabaye absent
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLabaye absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)aye absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLabaye absent
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)aye absent
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)aye absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLabaye absent
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLab (minister)aye absent
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)aye absent
Martin SalterReading WestLabaye absent
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLabaye absent
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabaye absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)aye absent
Paddy TippingSherwoodLabaye absent
Neil TurnerWiganLabaye absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabaye absent
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLabaye absent
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLababsent aye
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLababsent aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLababsent aye
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)absent aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)absent aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLababsent aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLababsent aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLababsent aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLababsent aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLababsent aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Graham AllenNottingham NorthLababsent no
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLab (minister)absent no
Ben ChapmanWirral SouthLababsent no
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Jim DevineLivingstonLababsent no
Bruce GeorgeWalsall SouthLababsent no
Peter HainNeathLab (minister)absent no
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLab (minister)absent no
Andrew LoveEdmontonLab (minister)absent no
Tony McNultyHarrow EastLab (minister)absent no
Albert OwenYnys MônLab (minister)absent no
Terry RooneyBradford NorthLababsent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLababsent no
John SmithVale of GlamorganLababsent no
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
David WinnickWalsall NorthLab (minister)absent no
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)no absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)no absent
Paul KeetchHerefordLDemno absent
Charles KennedyRoss, Skye and LochaberLDem (front bench)no absent
Mark OatenWinchesterLDem (front bench)no absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)absent aye
John HemmingBirmingham, YardleyLDemabsent aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDemabsent aye
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemabsent aye
Mark DurkanFoyleSDLP (front bench)no absent
Eddie McGradySouth DownSDLPno absent
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)no absent
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)no absent
Alex SalmondBanff and BuchanSNP (front bench)no absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 645 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 15 voted the same way, with 417 voting in opposite ways. There were 39 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 174 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
417
(417 + 15 + 0.2x174)
=
417
466.8
= 0.893 = 89.3 %.


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