Comparison of Divisions: Identity Cards Bill — Recommittal to Select Committee — 18 Oct 2005 at 16:22 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) : Identity Cards Bill — Recommittal to Select Committee - 18 Oct 2005 at 16:22 - Division No. 56

Those voting Aye were trying to recommit the Identity Cards Bill to a Select Committee. Recommittal means that the details of the Bill would again be subject to line-by-line scrutiny, as it was earlier in the Standing Committee. A Select Committee is, however, able to take external evidence and write a report which balances the views of all of its members. The Select Committee report, published on 20 July 2004, on the Identity Cards Bill which did not complete its passage in the previous Parliamentary session is here.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthConaye absent
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)aye absent
John ButterfillBournemouth WestConaye absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)aye absent
Derek ConwayOld Bexley and Sidcupwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Eric ForthBromley and ChislehurstCon (front bench)aye absent
John GreenwayRyedaleConaye absent
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)aye absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)aye absent
Michael JackFyldeConaye absent
Boris JohnsonHenleyConaye absent
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)aye absent
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)aye absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)aye absent
Michael MatesEast HampshireConaye absent
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)aye absent
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Conaye absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)aye absent
Robert WalterNorth DorsetConaye absent
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)aye absent
Michael AncramDevizesCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul BeresfordMole ValleyCon (front bench)absent aye
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
David DaviesMonmouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)absent aye
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)absent aye
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward GarnierHarboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Chris GraylingEpsom and EwellCon (front bench)absent aye
Dominic GrieveBeaconsfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Philip HammondRunnymede and WeybridgeCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheCon (front bench)absent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Andrew LansleySouth CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Oliver LetwinWest DorsetCon (front bench)absent aye
David LidingtonAylesburyCon (front bench)absent aye
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Theresa MayMaidenheadCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MitchellSutton ColdfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstConabsent aye
Stephen O'BrienEddisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
John RedwoodWokinghamConabsent aye
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaCon (front bench)absent aye
Caroline SpelmanMeridenCon (front bench)absent aye
Gary StreeterSouth West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Desmond SwayneNew Forest WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian TaylorEsher and WaltonConabsent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Ed VaizeyWantageConabsent aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdConabsent aye
David WillettsHavantCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian PaisleyNorth AntrimDUP (front bench)aye absent
Iris RobinsonStrangfordDUPaye absent
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independentabsent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLabaye no
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)aye absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)aye absent
Clare ShortBirmingham, Ladywoodwhilst Labaye absent
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabno aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabno aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)no aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabno aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)no aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)no aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabno aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLabno aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLabno aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)no aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLabno aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabno aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLabno aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabno aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)no absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLabno absent
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)no absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)no absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)no absent
Colin BurgonElmetLab (minister)no absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabno absent
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLab (minister)no absent
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLabno absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)no absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)no absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLab (minister)no absent
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabno absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabno absent
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)no absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)no absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)no absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabno absent
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)no absent
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabno absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)no absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)no absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)no absent
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)no absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
Piara S KhabraEaling, SouthallLab (minister)no absent
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabno absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLabno absent
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
John MacDougallGlenrothesLab (minister)no absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabno absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabno absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
John MannBassetlawLabno absent
David MarshallGlasgow EastLabno absent
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabno absent
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)no absent
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabno absent
Alan MealeMansfieldLabno absent
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)no absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLabno absent
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLabno absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)no absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLabno absent
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLabno absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)no absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)no absent
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLab (minister)no absent
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)no absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)no absent
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLab (minister)no absent
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLabno absent
Martin SalterReading WestLabno absent
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)no absent
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)no absent
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabno absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)no absent
Paddy TippingSherwoodLabno absent
Neil TurnerWiganLabno absent
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabno absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labno absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLab (minister)no absent
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)no absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Paul TruswellPudseyLababsent aye
Russell BrownDumfries and GallowayLab (minister)absent no
David ChaytorBury NorthLab (minister)absent no
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Janet DeanBurtonLab (minister)absent no
Brian JenkinsTamworthLab (minister)absent no
Alan JohnsonKingston upon Hull West and HessleLab (minister)absent no
Sally KeebleNorthampton NorthLab (minister)absent no
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLab (minister)absent no
Madeleine MoonBridgendLab (minister)absent no
George MudieLeeds EastLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
David WinnickWalsall NorthLab (minister)absent no
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)aye absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)aye absent
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)aye absent
Charles KennedyRoss, Skye and LochaberLDem (front bench)aye absent
Mark OatenWinchesterLDem (front bench)aye absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Paul RowenRochdaleLDemaye absent
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
John HemmingBirmingham, YardleyLDem (front bench)absent aye
John PughSouthportLDem (front bench)absent aye
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDemabsent aye
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)absent aye
George GallowayBethnal Green and BowRespectaye absent
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)aye absent
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)aye absent
Alex SalmondBanff and BuchanSNP (front bench)aye absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 435 voted the same way, with 24 voting in opposite ways. There were 26 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 161 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
435
(435 + 24 + 0.2x161)
=
435
491.2
= 0.886 = 88.6 %.


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