Comparison of Divisions: Electoral Administration Bill — Clause 15 — Personal identifiers: piloting — 8 Nov 2005 at 21:15 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Electoral Administration Bill — Clause 15 — Personal identifiers: piloting - 8 Nov 2005 at 21:15 - Division No. 82

I beg to move amendment No. 4, in clause 15, page 14, line 17, leave out subsection (1).

Question put, That the amendment be made:-

The Committee divided: Ayes 201, Noes 283.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by constituency

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Richard ShepherdAldridge-BrownhillsCon (front bench)absent aye
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)no absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Tony BaldryBanburyConabsent aye
Alex SalmondBanff and BuchanSNP (front bench)aye absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)no absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)no absent
John HuttonBarrow and FurnessLab (minister)absent no
Angela SmithBasildonLab (minister)absent no
John MannBassetlawLabno absent
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLabno absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)no aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)no absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)no absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)absent no
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)no aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
Peter LawBlaenau GwentIndependentno absent
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Ruth KellyBolton WestLab (minister)absent no
Gerry SutcliffeBradford SouthLab (minister)absent no
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)no absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Sarah TeatherBrent EastLDem (front bench)absent aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Desmond TurnerBrighton, KemptownLab (minister)absent no
Doug NaysmithBristol North WestLab (minister)absent no
Dawn PrimaroloBristol SouthLab (minister)absent no
Eric ForthBromley and ChislehurstCon (front bench)aye absent
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstConabsent aye
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)aye absent
Charles WalkerBroxbourneCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLabno aye
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabno absent
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Iain Duncan SmithChingford and Woodford GreenConabsent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Christopher ChopeChristchurchCon (front bench)absent aye
Christine RussellCity of ChesterLab (minister)absent no
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLabno aye
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
David JonesClwyd WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLabno absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLab (minister)no absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)no absent
Phil HopeCorbyLab (minister)absent no
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLab (minister)no absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independentabsent aye
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabno absent
Alan MilburnDarlingtonLababsent no
Howard StoateDartfordLab (minister)absent no
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)aye absent
Margaret BeckettDerby SouthLab (minister)absent no
Ian PearsonDudley SouthLab (minister)absent no
Tessa JowellDulwich and West NorwoodLab (minister)absent no
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)aye absent
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDemabsent aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)no aye
Piara S KhabraEaling, SouthallLab (minister)no absent
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)tellaye absent
Stephen TimmsEast HamLab (minister)absent no
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)no absent
Ian StewartEcclesLababsent no
Colin BurgonElmetLab (minister)no absent
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mark HobanFarehamConabsent aye
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)aye absent
David MarshallGlasgow EastLab (minister)no absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
John MacDougallGlenrothesLab (minister)no absent
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Peter ViggersGosportCon (front bench)absent aye
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)no absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Adam HollowayGraveshamConabsent aye
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Anne MiltonGuildfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabno aye
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)no absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLabno aye
Derek TwiggHaltonLab (minister)absent no
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabno aye
Edward GarnierHarboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Tony McNultyHarrow EastLab (minister)absent no
David WillettsHavantCon (front bench)absent aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabno aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Boris JohnsonHenleyConaye absent
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)aye absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)aye absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)no absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)no absent
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLababsent aye
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)absent aye
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLab (minister)no absent
Alan JohnsonKingston upon Hull West and HessleLab (minister)absent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)no absent
George MudieLeeds EastLab (minister)absent no
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)no absent
Keith VazLeicester EastLababsent aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabno absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLabno aye
Peter TapsellLouth and HorncastleConabsent aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLab (minister)absent no
John WhittingdaleMaldon and East ChelmsfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Graham StringerManchester, BlackleyLab (minister)absent no
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabno aye
Dai HavardMerthyr Tydfil and RhymneyLab (minister)absent no
Nicholas SoamesMid SussexConabsent aye
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)aye absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLabno absent
David DaviesMonmouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)aye absent
Peter HainNeathLab (minister)absent no
Patrick MercerNewarkCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick BrownNewcastle upon Tyne East and WallsendLababsent no
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabno absent
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)absent aye
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)no absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Robert WalterNorth DorsetConaye absent
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Bernard JenkinNorth EssexCon (front bench)absent aye
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Michael WillsNorth SwindonLababsent no
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)absent aye
Shailesh VaraNorth West CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthConaye absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)no absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLab (minister)no absent
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabno aye
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabno absent
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)aye absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Douglas AlexanderPaisley and Renfrewshire SouthLab (minister)absent no
Yvette CooperPontefract and CastlefordLab (minister)absent no
Robert SymsPooleCon (front bench)absent aye
Jim FitzpatrickPoplar and Canning TownLab (minister)absent no
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)aye absent
Stephen CrabbPreseli PembrokeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabno aye
Martin SalterReading WestLabno absent
Jacqui SmithRedditchLab (minister)absent no
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConaye absent
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)aye absent
Andrew RosindellRomfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Kevin BarronRother ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabno absent
Philip HammondRunnymede and WeybridgeCon (front bench)absent aye
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)absent aye
Robert KeySalisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLab (minister)no absent
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLababsent no
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Meg MunnSheffield, HeeleyLab (minister)absent no
Paddy TippingSherwoodLabno absent
Philip DaviesShipleyConabsent aye
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
Andrew LansleySouth CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
John HayesSouth Holland and The DeepingsCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkConabsent aye
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)no absent
Sir David AmessSouthend WestCon (front bench)absent aye
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)aye absent
Anne MainSt AlbansCon (front bench)absent aye
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)no absent
Charlotte AtkinsStaffordshire MoorlandsLab (minister)absent no
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)no absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno aye
Joan WalleyStoke-on-Trent NorthLab (minister)absent no
Bill CashStoneCon (front bench)absent aye
Iris RobinsonStrangfordDUPaye absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)aye absent
Beverley HughesStretford and UrmstonLab (minister)absent no
David DrewStroudLab (minister)absent no
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)no aye
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)aye absent
David LammyTottenhamLab (minister)absent no
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemabsent aye
David SimpsonUpper BannDUP (front bench)aye absent
Anne McIntoshVale of YorkCon (front bench)absent aye
Kate HoeyVauxhallLabno aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Ed VaizeyWantageConabsent aye
Bob BlizzardWaveneyLababsent no
Charles HendryWealdenCon (front bench)absent aye
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)aye absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLabno absent
Patrick McLoughlinWest DerbyshireCon (front bench)absent aye
John PenroseWeston-Super-MareCon (front bench)absent aye
Neil TurnerWiganLabno absent
Ben ChapmanWirral SouthLab (minister)absent no
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)aye absent
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)absent aye
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 371 voted the same way, with 25 voting in opposite ways. There were 48 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 202 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
371
(371 + 25 + 0.2x202)
=
371
436.4
= 0.850 = 85.0 %.


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