Comparison of Divisions: Racial and Religious Hatred Bill — 31 Jan 2006 at 19:49 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

(Swap the two divisions around).

Vote (a) : Racial and Religious Hatred Bill - 31 Jan 2006 at 19:49 - Division No. 148

Those voting No agreed that the "Lords amendment No. 4" should remain in the Racial and Religious Hatred Bill. This had been a replacement of most of its contents.

The the original version of the Racial and Religious Hatred Bill passed by the Commons on 11 July 2005 changed "racial hatred" to "racial and religious hatred" in several places in the Public Order Act 1986, and defined the offence with regard:

"to all... words, behaviour or material[s]... that are likely to be heard or seen by any person in whom... they are likely to stir up racial or religious hatred."

In place of this, the Lords applied "Lords amendment No. 4", resulting in a version that said:

A person who uses threatening words or behaviour, or displays any written material which is threatening, is guilty of an offence if he intends... to stir up religious hatred.

It went on to be very specific about the rules in relation to performances, witnesses making accurate statements in court, and the right of free expression.

Had the MPs voted against this Lords amendment, the Government would have substituted a new compromise version which was a combination of the two versions, but added the extra provision:

[A person] is guilty of an offence if... he intends... to stir up religious hatred, or... is reckless as to whether religious hatred would be stirred up [by his actions].

It appears that the fundamental dispute is that the Lords require there to be an intent to stir up hatred, rather than the intention to, say, crack a funny joke which the police happen to believe could be likely to stir up hatred.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)no absent
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)no absent
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)no absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)no absent
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)no absent
Derek ConwayOld Bexley and Sidcupwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)no absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConno absent
Eric ForthBromley and ChislehurstCon (front bench)no absent
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)no absent
John GreenwayRyedaleConno absent
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)no absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)no absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)no absent
Boris JohnsonHenleyCon (front bench)no absent
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)no absent
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)no absent
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)no absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)no absent
Michael MatesEast HampshireCon (front bench)no absent
Francis MaudeHorshamCon (front bench)no absent
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no absent
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)no absent
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)no absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Conno absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)no absent
Robert WalterNorth DorsetConno absent
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)no absent
Richard BaconSouth NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Alistair BurtNorth East BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
James DuddridgeRochford and Southend EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)absent aye
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)absent aye
John GummerSuffolk CoastalConabsent aye
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstConabsent aye
Mark SimmondsBoston and SkegnessCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Shailesh VaraNorth West CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Ann WintertonCongletonCon (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas WintertonMacclesfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian PaisleyNorth AntrimDUP (front bench)no absent
Iris RobinsonStrangfordDUPno absent
David SimpsonUpper BannDUP (front bench)no absent
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independentabsent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)aye aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)aye aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)aye aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)aye aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)aye aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabaye aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)aye aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)aye aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)aye aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)aye aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLabaye aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabaye aye
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)aye absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)aye absent
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)aye absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Colin BurgonElmetLab (minister)aye absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabaye absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)aye absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabaye absent
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLab (minister)aye absent
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)aye absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabaye absent
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)aye absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)aye absent
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabaye absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)aye absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)aye absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)aye absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)aye absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)aye absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Piara S KhabraEaling, SouthallLab (minister)aye absent
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabaye absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)aye absent
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)aye absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabaye absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLab (minister)aye absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)aye absent
David MarshallGlasgow EastLab (minister)aye absent
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabaye absent
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)aye absent
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)aye absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLabaye absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)aye absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)aye absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)aye absent
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)aye absent
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLab (minister)aye absent
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)aye absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)aye absent
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLab (minister)aye absent
Martin SalterReading WestLabaye absent
Clare ShortBirmingham, Ladywoodwhilst Labaye absent
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)aye absent
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabaye absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)aye absent
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)aye absent
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)aye absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabaye absent
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)aye absent
Joe BentonBootleLab (minister)no no
Colin ChallenMorley and RothwellLab (minister)no no
John GroganSelbyLab (minister)no no
Gordon PrenticePendleLab (minister)no no
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLabno no
Tony WrightCannock ChaseLab (minister)no no
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)no absent
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabno absent
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)no absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)no absent
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabno absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labno absent
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLababsent aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)absent aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)absent aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLababsent aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLababsent aye
Graham AllenNottingham NorthLababsent no
Gordon BanksOchil and South PerthshireLab (minister)absent no
Anne BeggAberdeen SouthLab (minister)absent no
Clive BettsSheffield, AttercliffeLab (minister)absent no
Russell BrownDumfries and GallowayLab (minister)absent no
Michael ConnartyLinlithgow and East FalkirkLab (minister)absent no
Ann CryerKeighleyLab (minister)absent no
Ian DavidsonGlasgow South WestLab (minister)absent no
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
David DrewStroudLab (minister)absent no
Michael Jabez FosterHastings and RyeLab (minister)absent no
Hywel FrancisAberavonLab (minister)absent no
Barry GardinerBrent NorthLab (minister)absent no
David HamiltonMidlothianLab (minister)absent no
David HansonDelynLab (minister)absent no
Tom HarrisGlasgow SouthLab (minister)absent no
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLab (minister)absent no
Eric JoyceFalkirkLab (minister)absent no
Gerald KaufmanManchester, GortonLab (minister)absent no
Mark LazarowiczEdinburgh North and LeithLababsent no
David LepperBrighton, PavilionLab (minister)absent no
Steve McCabeBirmingham, Hall GreenLab (minister)absent no
Rosemary McKennaCumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch EastLab (minister)absent no
Madeleine MoonBridgendLab (minister)absent no
Denis MurphyWansbeckLababsent no
Ian PearsonDudley SouthLab (minister)absent no
Frank RoyMotherwell and WishawLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Angela SmithBasildonLab (minister)absent no
Ian StewartEcclesLab (minister)absent no
Graham StringerManchester, BlackleyLab (minister)absent no
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)no absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)no absent
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)no absent
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)no absent
Charles KennedyRoss, Skye and LochaberLDemno absent
Mark OatenWinchesterLDemno absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)no absent
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDem (front bench)absent aye
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDemabsent aye
George GallowayBethnal Green and BowRespectaye absent
Mark DurkanFoyleSDLP (front bench)no absent
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)no absent
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)no absent
Alex SalmondBanff and BuchanSNP (front bench)no absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 645 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 22 voted the same way, with 435 voting in opposite ways. There were 27 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 161 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
435
(435 + 22 + 0.2x161)
=
435
489.2
= 0.889 = 88.9 %.


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