Comparison of Divisions: Government of Wales Bill — [2nd Allotted Day] — New Clause 12 — Business scheme — 28 Feb 2006 at 21:50 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Government of Wales Bill — [2nd Allotted Day] — New Clause 12 — Business scheme - 28 Feb 2006 at 21:50 - Division No. 181

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read the Third time.

If I may say so, Madam Deputy Speaker, to have a daughter of Wales in the Chair at this time is indeed most appropriate.

Question put, That the Bill be now read the Third time:-

The House divided: Ayes 324, Noes 143.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)no absent
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)no absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)no absent
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)no absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConno absent
Eric ForthBromley and ChislehurstCon (front bench)no absent
John GreenwayRyedaleConno absent
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)no absent
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)no absent
Boris JohnsonHenleyCon (front bench)no absent
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)no absent
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)no absent
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)no absent
Michael MatesEast HampshireCon (front bench)no absent
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no absent
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)no absent
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)no absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
Robert WalterNorth DorsetConno absent
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)no absent
Michael AncramDevizesCon (front bench)absent aye
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
Crispin BluntReigateCon (front bench)absent aye
Alistair BurtNorth East BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Bill CashStoneCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)absent aye
Jonathan DjanoglyHuntingdonCon (front bench)absent aye
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)absent aye
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)absent aye
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward GarnierHarboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael GoveSurrey HeathCon (front bench)absent aye
Chris GraylingEpsom and EwellCon (front bench)absent aye
John GummerSuffolk CoastalConabsent aye
Stephen HammondWimbledonCon (front bench)absent aye
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConabsent aye
Gerald HowarthAldershotCon (front bench)absent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Bernard JenkinNorth EssexCon (front bench)absent aye
Robert KeySalisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Eleanor LaingEpping ForestCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew LansleySouth CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward LeighGainsboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick MercerNewarkCon (front bench)absent aye
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstConabsent aye
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Mike PenningHemel HempsteadCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark PriskHertford and StortfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew RobathanBlabyCon (front bench)absent aye
Hugh RobertsonFaversham and Mid KentCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard ShepherdAldridge-BrownhillsCon (front bench)absent aye
Keith SimpsonMid NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas SoamesMid SussexCon (front bench)absent aye
Caroline SpelmanMeridenCon (front bench)absent aye
Hugo SwireEast DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter TapsellLouth and HorncastleConabsent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Andrew TurnerIsle of WightCon (front bench)absent aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)aye aye
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)aye aye
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)aye aye
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPaye aye
Ian PaisleyNorth AntrimDUP (front bench)both absent
Iris RobinsonStrangfordDUPboth absent
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independentabsent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)absent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)aye aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)aye aye
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabaye aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)aye aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)aye aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabaye aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)aye aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabaye aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabaye aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)aye aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)aye aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)aye aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)aye aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabaye aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabaye aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLabaye aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabaye aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)aye both
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)aye absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)aye absent
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)aye absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Colin BurgonElmetLab (minister)aye absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabaye absent
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)aye absent
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabaye absent
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLab (minister)aye absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)aye absent
Gwyneth DunwoodyCrewe and NantwichLab (minister)aye absent
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)aye absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLabaye absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabaye absent
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)aye absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)aye absent
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabaye absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)aye absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)aye absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)aye absent
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)aye absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)aye absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)aye absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)aye absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Piara S KhabraEaling, SouthallLab (minister)aye absent
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabaye absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)aye absent
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)aye absent
John MacDougallGlenrothesLab (minister)aye absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabaye absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLab (minister)aye absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)aye absent
David MarshallGlasgow EastLab (minister)aye absent
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabaye absent
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)aye absent
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabaye absent
Alan MealeMansfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLabaye absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)aye absent
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)aye absent
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLab (minister)aye absent
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)aye absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)aye absent
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLab (minister)aye absent
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)aye absent
Martin SalterReading WestLabaye absent
Clare ShortBirmingham, Ladywoodwhilst Labaye absent
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)aye absent
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabaye absent
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)aye absent
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)aye absent
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabaye absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabaye absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)aye absent
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLababsent aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLababsent aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)absent aye
Kate HoeyVauxhallLababsent aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)absent aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)absent aye
Douglas AlexanderPaisley and Renfrewshire SouthLab (minister)absent no
David AndersonBlaydonLab (minister)absent no
Ian AustinDudley NorthLababsent no
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Joe BentonBootleLab (minister)absent no
Liz BlackmanErewashLab (minister)absent no
Hazel BlearsSalfordLab (minister)absent no
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLababsent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Lyn BrownWest HamLab (minister)absent no
Paul ClarkGillinghamLab (minister)absent no
Tom ClarkeCoatbridge, Chryston and BellshillLababsent no
Ann ClwydCynon ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Yvette CooperPontefract and CastlefordLab (minister)absent no
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Harriet HarmanCamberwell and PeckhamLab (minister)absent no
Kim HowellsPontypriddLab (minister)absent no
John HuttonBarrow and FurnessLab (minister)absent no
Alan JohnsonKingston upon Hull West and HessleLab (minister)absent no
Ruth KellyBolton WestLab (minister)absent no
Sadiq KhanTootingLab (minister)absent no
David KidneyStaffordLab (minister)absent no
David LammyTottenhamLab (minister)absent no
Tony LloydManchester CentralLababsent no
Steve McCabeBirmingham, Hall GreenLab (minister)absent no
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLab (minister)absent no
Ann McKechinGlasgow NorthLab (minister)absent no
Tony McNultyHarrow EastLab (minister)absent no
Alun MichaelCardiff South and PenarthLab (minister)absent no
Chris MullinSunderland SouthLab (minister)absent no
Paul MurphyTorfaenLab (minister)absent no
Doug NaysmithBristol North WestLab (minister)absent no
Bill OlnerNuneatonLab (minister)absent no
Ken PurchaseWolverhampton North EastLab (minister)absent no
Terry RooneyBradford NorthLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Joan RuddockLewisham, DeptfordLab (minister)absent no
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Jonathan R ShawChatham and AylesfordLab (minister)absent no
Barry SheermanHuddersfieldLab (minister)absent no
Angela SmithBasildonLab (minister)absent no
John SmithVale of GlamorganLab (minister)absent no
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)absent no
Don TouhigIslwynLab (minister)absent no
Jon TrickettHemsworthLab (minister)absent no
Derek TwiggHaltonLab (minister)absent no
Tom WatsonWest Bromwich EastLab (minister)absent no
Alan WilliamsSwansea WestLab (minister)absent no
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
Iain WrightHartlepoolLab (minister)absent no
Tony WrightCannock ChaseLab (minister)absent no
Derek WyattSittingbourne and SheppeyLab (minister)absent no
Danny AlexanderInverness, Nairn, Badenoch and StrathspeyLDem (front bench)aye aye
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)aye aye
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Annette BrookeMid Dorset and North PooleLDem (front bench)aye aye
Lorely BurtSolihullLDem (front bench)aye aye
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)aye aye
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)aye aye
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDem (front bench)aye aye
Don FosterBathLDem (front bench)aye aye
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDem (front bench)aye aye
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)aye aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)aye aye
David HeathSomerton and FromeLDem (front bench)aye aye
John HemmingBirmingham, YardleyLDem (front bench)aye aye
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDem (front bench)aye aye
Simon HughesNorth Southwark and BermondseyLDem (front bench)aye aye
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)aye aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)aye aye
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)aye aye
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)aye aye
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)aye aye
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDemaye aye
Bob RussellColchesterLDem (front bench)aye aye
Adrian SandersTorbayLDemaye aye
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)aye aye
Andrew StunellHazel GroveLDem (front bench)aye aye
Sarah TeatherBrent EastLDem (front bench)aye aye
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)aye aye
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDem (front bench)aye aye
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)aye absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)aye absent
Norman BakerLewesLDemabsent aye
John BarrettEdinburgh WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)absent aye
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)absent aye
David HowarthCambridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
John PughSouthportLDem (front bench)absent aye
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Dan RogersonNorth CornwallLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemabsent aye
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)absent aye
Steve WebbNorthavonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Stephen WilliamsBristol WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDem (front bench)absent aye
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)aye aye
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)aye aye
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)aye aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)aye aye
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)aye absent
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)aye absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 60 voted the same way, with 318 voting in opposite ways. There were 50 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 218 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
318
(318 + 60 + 0.2x218)
=
318
421.6
= 0.754 = 75.4 %.


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