Comparison of Divisions: Northern Ireland (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill — Clause 19 — Department with policing and justice functions — 20 Apr 2006 at 15:15 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Northern Ireland (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill — Clause 19 — Department with policing and justice functions - 20 Apr 2006 at 15:15 - Division No. 212

I beg to move amendment No. 30, in page 13, line 41, leave out 'and justice'.

It is a delight to be back in the Chamber to discuss the Bill, and I am sure that the Minister shares those sentiments. He had a lively and enjoyable time yesterday, so I am sure he was impatient to get today's business under way.

I beg to move amendment No. 18, in page 14, line 4, at end insert-

'( ) The Act may provide for the department to be in the charge of the First and Deputy First Minister acting jointly.'.

I beg to move amendment No. 31, in page 14, line 12, at end insert-

'(4A) No person shall be appointed as Minister or Junior Minister of a Department to exercise functions consisting wholly or mainly of devolved policing and justice functions pursuant to this section if he has-

Question put, That the amendment be made:-

The Committee divided: Ayes 130, Noes 293.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by name

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLababsent aye
Danny AlexanderInverness, Nairn, Badenoch and StrathspeyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Michael AncramDevizesCon (front bench)absent aye
Charlotte AtkinsStaffordshire MoorlandsLab (minister)absent no
Peter AtkinsonHexhamConabsent aye
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)no absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
Norman BakerLewesLDemabsent aye
Gregory BarkerBexhill and BattleCon (front bench)absent aye
John BarrettEdinburgh WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Kevin BarronRother ValleyLab (minister)absent no
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)no absent
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Margaret BeckettDerby SouthLab (minister)absent no
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)absent aye
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)no absent
Richard BenyonNewburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul BeresfordMole ValleyCon (front bench)absent aye
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)aye absent
Crispin BluntReigateCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter BoneWellingboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)no aye
Kevin BrennanCardiff WestLab (minister)absent no
James BrokenshireHornchurchConabsent aye
Annette BrookeMid Dorset and North PooleLDem (front bench)no aye
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Lyn BrownWest HamLab (minister)absent no
Nick BrownNewcastle upon Tyne East and WallsendLababsent no
Des BrowneKilmarnock and LoudounLab (minister)absent no
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)no aye
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)no aye
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLabno absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)no absent
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)no aye
Lorely BurtSolihullLDem (front bench)no aye
Dawn ButlerBrent SouthLab (minister)absent no
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)aye absent
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)no aye
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLab (minister)no absent
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)no absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)no absent
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Ben ChapmanWirral SouthLab (minister)absent no
Christopher ChopeChristchurchCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)no absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)aye absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLab (minister)no absent
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)no aye
Geoffrey Clifton-BrownCotswoldCon (front bench)absent aye
Vernon CoakerGedlingLab (minister)absent no
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Derek ConwayOld Bexley and Sidcupwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)no absent
Rosie CooperWest LancashireLab (minister)absent no
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabno aye
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabno absent
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)no aye
Wayne DavidCaerphillyLab (minister)absent no
Ian DavidsonGlasgow South WestLab (minister)absent no
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
David DaviesMonmouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Janet DeanBurtonLab (minister)absent no
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Frank DobsonHolborn and St PancrasLab (minister)absent no
Stephen DorrellCharnwoodCon (front bench)absent aye
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)absent aye
Iain Duncan SmithChingford and Woodford GreenConabsent aye
Philip DunneLudlowCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark DurkanFoyleSDLP (front bench)no absent
Jeff EnnisBarnsley East and MexboroughLab (minister)absent no
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabno absent
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)absent aye
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDem (front bench)no aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLababsent aye
Rob FlelloStoke-on-Trent SouthLab (minister)absent no
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)no absent
Eric ForthBromley and ChislehurstCon (front bench)aye absent
Don FosterBathLDem (front bench)no aye
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)absent aye
Hywel FrancisAberavonLab (minister)absent no
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)absent aye
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)no absent
Barry GardinerBrent NorthLab (minister)absent no
Edward GarnierHarboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDemno aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLabno absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)no absent
Dame Cheryl GillanChesham and AmershamCon (front bench)absent aye
Linda GilroyPlymouth, SuttonLab (minister)absent no
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)absent aye
Chris GraylingEpsom and EwellCon (front bench)absent aye
Justine GreeningPutneyCon (front bench)absent aye
John GreenwayRyedaleConaye absent
Nigel GriffithsEdinburgh SouthLab (minister)absent no
William HagueRichmond (Yorks)Con (front bench)absent aye
Peter HainNeathLab (minister)absent no
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
Harriet HarmanCamberwell and PeckhamLab (minister)absent no
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)no aye
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
David HeathSomerton and FromeLDem (front bench)no aye
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)aye absent
John HemmingBirmingham, YardleyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Charles HendryWealdenCon (front bench)absent aye
Keith HillStreathamLab (minister)absent no
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)no absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)no absent
Kate HoeyVauxhallLababsent aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)no aye
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)no absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)no absent
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)aye absent
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
David HowarthCambridgeLDem (front bench)no aye
George HowarthKnowsley North and Sefton EastLab (minister)absent no
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Beverley HughesStretford and UrmstonLab (minister)absent no
Simon HughesNorth Southwark and BermondseyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)no aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Nick HurdRuislip - NorthwoodCon (front bench)absent aye
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)no absent
Huw Irranca-DaviesOgmoreLab (minister)absent no
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)aye absent
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabno aye
Stewart JacksonPeterboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
Bernard JenkinNorth EssexCon (front bench)absent aye
Diana R. JohnsonKingston upon Hull NorthLab (minister)absent no
Helen JonesWarrington NorthLab (minister)absent no
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
Daniel KawczynskiShrewsbury and AtchamCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)no absent
Robert KeySalisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Piara S KhabraEaling, SouthallLab (minister)no absent
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDem (front bench)no aye
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)no absent
Jacqui LaitBeckenhamCon (front bench)absent aye
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Andrew LansleySouth CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)absent aye
Bob LaxtonDerby NorthLababsent no
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
David LepperBrighton, PavilionLab (minister)absent no
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
Julian LewisNew Forest EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)no absent
Tony LloydManchester CentralLababsent no
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)absent aye
John MacDougallGlenrothesLab (minister)no absent
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)no aye
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabno absent
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)aye absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)aye absent
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)absent aye
David MarshallGlasgow EastLab (minister)no absent
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabno aye
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Theresa MayMaidenheadCon (front bench)absent aye
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabno absent
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLab (minister)absent no
Siobhain McDonaghMitcham and MordenLab (minister)absent no
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)no aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabno aye
Eddie McGradySouth DownSDLPno absent
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)no absent
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)no aye
Tony McNultyHarrow EastLab (minister)absent no
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabno absent
Alan MealeMansfieldLab (minister)no absent
Alan MilburnDarlingtonLababsent no
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)no absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLabno absent
Anne MiltonGuildfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)no absent
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)no aye
Meg MunnSheffield, HeeleyLab (minister)absent no
Paul MurphyTorfaenLab (minister)absent no
Doug NaysmithBristol North WestLab (minister)absent no
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstConabsent aye
Mike O'BrienNorth WarwickshireLab (minister)absent no
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)no absent
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)no absent
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian PaisleyNorth AntrimDUP (front bench)aye absent
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Conaye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independentabsent aye
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)absent aye
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)no absent
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)no aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLab (minister)no absent
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)absent aye
Dawn PrimaroloBristol SouthLab (minister)absent no
Gwyn ProsserDoverLab (minister)absent no
John PughSouthportLDem (front bench)no aye
James PurnellStalybridge and HydeLab (minister)absent no
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)no aye
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)no absent
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaConabsent aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)no aye
Andrew RobathanBlabyCon (front bench)absent aye
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
Hugh RobertsonFaversham and Mid KentCon (front bench)absent aye
Iris RobinsonStrangfordDUPaye absent
Dan RogersonNorth CornwallLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Bob RussellColchesterLDem (front bench)no aye
Martin SalterReading WestLabno absent
Adrian SandersTorbayLDem (front bench)absent aye
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Barry SheermanHuddersfieldLab (minister)absent no
Richard ShepherdAldridge-BrownhillsCon (front bench)absent aye
Clare ShortBirmingham, Ladywoodwhilst Labno absent
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabno aye
David SimpsonUpper BannDUP (front bench)aye absent
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)no absent
Dennis SkinnerBolsoverLab (minister)absent no
Andrew SmithOxford EastLababsent aye
Angela SmithBasildonLab (minister)absent no
John SmithVale of GlamorganLab (minister)absent no
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)absent aye
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)no absent
Peter SoulsbyLeicester SouthLab (minister)absent no
Helen SouthworthWarrington SouthLab (minister)absent no
Caroline SpelmanMeridenCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael SpicerWest WorcestershireCon (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Howard StoateDartfordLab (minister)absent no
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabno absent
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)absent no
Gary StreeterSouth West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Graham StringerManchester, BlackleyLab (minister)absent no
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)no absent
Graham StuartBeverley and HoldernessCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew StunellHazel GroveLDem (front bench)absent aye
Desmond SwayneNew Forest WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Robert SymsPooleCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter TapsellLouth and HorncastleConabsent aye
Dari TaylorStockton SouthLab (minister)absent no
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)absent both
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemabsent aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)absent aye
Sarah TeatherBrent EastLDem (front bench)no aye
Gareth ThomasHarrow WestLab (minister)absent no
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)absent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Mark ToddSouth DerbyshireLab (minister)absent no
David TredinnickBosworthConabsent aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabno aye
Andrew TurnerIsle of WightCon (front bench)absent aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLababsent aye
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabno absent
Joan WalleyStoke-on-Trent NorthLab (minister)absent no
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labno absent
Nigel WatersonEastbourneCon (front bench)absent aye
Steve WebbNorthavonLDemabsent aye
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdCon (front bench)absent aye
David WillettsHavantCon (front bench)absent aye
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)absent aye
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)absent aye
Stephen WilliamsBristol WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDem (front bench)no aye
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDem (front bench)absent aye
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)absent aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)no absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Iain WrightHartlepoolLab (minister)absent no
Jeremy WrightRugby and KenilworthConabsent aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
George YoungNorth West HampshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 297 voted the same way, with 44 voting in opposite ways. There were 53 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 252 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
297
(297 + 44 + 0.2x252)
=
297
391.4
= 0.759 = 75.9 %.


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