Comparison of Divisions: Opposition Day — [14th Allotted Day] — Carers — 11 Jun 2007 at 21:53 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Opposition Day — [14th Allotted Day] — Carers - 11 Jun 2007 at 21:53 - Division No. 137

I beg to move,

That this House recognises the vital contribution that the UK's six million carers make to society; welcomes recent announcements on carers including the Government review of the National Strategy for Carers, the New Deal for Carers and the Treasury report 'Aiming high for disabled children: better support for families' as steps towards an improvement in recognition and support for carers; notes that 54 per cent. of carers have given up work and one in five carers feel forced to do so; recognises the impacts which caring responsibilities have on family incomes, relative poverty and the health of carers themselves; is deeply concerned that an estimated 175,000 young people are carers of adults with the consequent pressures on them; calls on the Government to reduce the bureaucracy of social care provision that puts so much pressure on carers; and asks the Government to bring forward proposals for simplifying the benefit system in order to provide better support for carers and to ensure that the review of the National Strategy for Carers has both short term and long term objectives to enhance support for carers and to respond to the vital role played by carers in society.

I beg to move, To leave out from "review" to the end of the Question and to add instead thereof:

"of the first ever National Strategy for carers, the New Deal for Carers and the Treasury report "Aiming high for disabled children: better support for families" as steps towards an improvement in recognition and support for carers; notes that the review of the National Strategy includes a far reaching consultation with carers and others to make recommendations for the short, medium and long-term; further welcomes the extra £25 million for short-term home-based respite care for carers and the extra £3 million towards establishing a national helpline for carers announced in 2007; congratulates the Government for introducing in 2007 the new Expert Carers Programme; further notes that the Pensions Bill currently before Parliament includes a package of reforms to recognise the contribution made by carers and ensure that they can build up better pension records; further notes that the right to request flexible working introduced by this Government will help carers better balance their work and caring benefits; and further welcomes the substantial improvements made to the benefits available to low income carers.'.

Question put, That the original words stand part of the Question:-

The House divided: Ayes 198, Noes 291.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)aye absent
Tim BoswellDaventryConaye absent
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)aye absent
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)aye absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConaye absent
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)aye absent
John GreenwayRyedaleConaye absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)aye absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)aye absent
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)aye absent
Boris JohnsonHenleyCon (front bench)aye absent
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)aye absent
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)aye absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)aye absent
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)aye absent
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)aye absent
Tony BaldryBanburyConabsent aye
Gregory BarkerBexhill and BattleCon (front bench)absent aye
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
Crispin BluntReigateCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestCon (front bench)absent aye
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Douglas CarswellHarwichCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen CrabbPreseli PembrokeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)absent aye
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)absent aye
Dame Cheryl GillanChesham and AmershamCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael GoveSurrey HeathCon (front bench)absent aye
Chris GraylingEpsom and EwellCon (front bench)absent aye
Dominic GrieveBeaconsfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Stewart JacksonPeterboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Daniel KawczynskiShrewsbury and AtchamCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward LeighGainsboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Julian LewisNew Forest EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne MainSt AlbansCon (front bench)absent aye
Theresa MayMaidenheadCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick MercerNewarkConabsent aye
Andrew MitchellSutton ColdfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstConabsent aye
Stephen O'BrienEddisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)absent aye
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark SimmondsBoston and SkegnessCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard SpringWest SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Hugo SwireEast DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Andrew TurnerIsle of WightConabsent aye
Ed VaizeyWantageCon (front bench)absent aye
Shailesh VaraNorth West CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Theresa VilliersChipping BarnetCon (front bench)absent aye
John WhittingdaleMaldon and East ChelmsfordCon (front bench)absent aye
David WillettsHavantCon (front bench)absent aye
Rob WilsonReading EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Ann WintertonCongletonCon (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas WintertonMacclesfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentno aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)no aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabno aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabno aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)no aye
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)no aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabno aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)no aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)no aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)no aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabno aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabno aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLabno aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)no absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)no absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)no absent
Colin BurgonElmetLabno absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabno absent
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLab (minister)no absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)no absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)no absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabno absent
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)no absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Gwyneth DunwoodyCrewe and NantwichLab (minister)no absent
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)no absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)no absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)no absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabno absent
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)no absent
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabno absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)no absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)no absent
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)no absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)no absent
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)no absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabno absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)no absent
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)no absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabno absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabno absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
David MarshallGlasgow EastLab (minister)no absent
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabno absent
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)no absent
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabno absent
Alan MealeMansfieldLab (minister)no absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)no absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)no absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)no absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)no absent
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)no absent
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)no absent
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)no absent
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)no absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)no absent
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)no absent
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)no absent
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabno absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labno absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Kate HoeyVauxhallLababsent aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLababsent aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)absent aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLababsent aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)absent aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Douglas AlexanderPaisley and Renfrewshire SouthLab (minister)absent no
Hilary ArmstrongNorth West DurhamLab (minister)absent no
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Roger BerryKingswoodLab (minister)absent no
Hazel BlearsSalfordLab (minister)absent no
Ben BradshawExeterLab (minister)absent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Des BrowneKilmarnock and LoudounLab (minister)absent no
David ChaytorBury NorthLab (minister)absent no
Vernon CoakerGedlingLab (minister)absent no
Michael ConnartyLinlithgow and East FalkirkLab (minister)absent no
Mary CreaghWakefieldLab (minister)absent no
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Brian H DonohoeCentral AyrshireLab (minister)absent no
Natascha EngelNorth East DerbyshireLab (minister)absent no
Jeff EnnisBarnsley East and MexboroughLab (minister)absent no
Caroline FlintDon ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Peter HainNeathLab (minister)absent no
Keith HillStreathamLab (minister)absent no
Sharon HodgsonGateshead East and Washington WestLab (minister)absent no
Kim HowellsPontypriddLab (minister)absent no
Beverley HughesStretford and UrmstonLab (minister)absent no
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLab (minister)absent no
Alan JohnsonKingston upon Hull West and HessleLab (minister)absent no
Tessa JowellDulwich and West NorwoodLab (minister)absent no
Ruth KellyBolton WestLab (minister)absent no
Fiona MactaggartSloughLab (minister)absent no
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLab (minister)absent no
John McFallWest DunbartonshireLab (minister)absent no
Tony McNultyHarrow EastLab (minister)absent no
Margaret MoranLuton SouthLab (minister)absent no
Jessica MordenNewport EastLab (minister)absent no
Meg MunnSheffield, HeeleyLab (minister)absent no
Jim MurphyEast RenfrewshireLab (minister)absent no
Dawn PrimaroloBristol SouthLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Barry SheermanHuddersfieldLab (minister)absent no
Helen SouthworthWarrington SouthLab (minister)absent no
Howard StoateDartfordLab (minister)absent no
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)absent no
Graham StringerManchester, BlackleyLab (minister)absent no
Mark ToddSouth DerbyshireLab (minister)absent no
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
Phil WoolasOldham East and SaddleworthLab (minister)absent no
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)aye absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Mark OatenWinchesterLDemaye absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)aye absent
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)absent aye
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDemabsent aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)absent aye
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)absent aye
Stephen WilliamsBristol WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)no aye
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)no aye
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)no absent
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)no absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)absent aye
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 377 voted the same way, with 26 voting in opposite ways. There were 47 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 196 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
377
(377 + 26 + 0.2x196)
=
377
442.2
= 0.853 = 85.3 %.


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