Comparison of Divisions: Orders of the Day — Clause 1 — Meaning of "the probation purposes" — 18 Jul 2007 at 19:30 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Orders of the Day — Clause 1 — Meaning of "the probation purposes" - 18 Jul 2007 at 19:30 - Division No. 195

I beg to move, That this House agrees with the Lords in the said amendments.

Motion made, and Question put, That amendment (a) thereto be made:- [Claire Ward.]

The House divided: Ayes 266, Noes 127.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by name

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabaye aye
Adam AfriyieWindsorCon (front bench)absent aye
Bob AinsworthCoventry North EastLab (minister)absent no
Peter AinsworthEast SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
Danny AlexanderInverness, Nairn, Badenoch and StrathspeyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Douglas AlexanderPaisley and Renfrewshire SouthLab (minister)absent no
Michael AncramDevizesCon (front bench)absent aye
David AndersonBlaydonLab (minister)absent no
Hilary ArmstrongNorth West DurhamLababsent no
Peter AtkinsonHexhamCon (front bench)absent aye
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)aye absent
Richard BaconSouth NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)aye absent
Vera BairdRedcarLab (minister)absent no
Norman BakerLewesLDem (front bench)absent aye
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)aye absent
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Margaret BeckettDerby SouthLababsent no
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)absent aye
Henry BellinghamNorth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)aye absent
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)no absent
Roberta Blackman-WoodsCity of DurhamLab (minister)absent no
Crispin BluntReigateCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim BoswellDaventryConno absent
Ben BradshawExeterLab (minister)absent no
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)absent aye
Annette BrookeMid Dorset and North PooleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Russell BrownDumfries and GallowayLab (minister)absent no
Angela BrowningTiverton and HonitonCon (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)aye absent
David BurrowesEnfield, SouthgateCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Alistair BurtNorth East BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)no absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabaye absent
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLabaye absent
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye absent
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLabaye aye
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)aye absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)no absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)aye absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabaye absent
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)absent aye
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Rosie CooperWest LancashireLab (minister)absent no
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabaye aye
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Jim CousinsNewcastle upon Tyne CentralLab (minister)absent no
Geoffrey CoxTorridge and West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentaye aye
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)no absent
Parmjit DhandaGloucesterLab (minister)absent no
Jonathan DjanoglyHuntingdonCon (front bench)absent aye
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)aye absent
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Philip DunneLudlowCon (front bench)absent aye
Clive EffordElthamLab (minister)absent no
Tobias EllwoodBournemouth EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Natascha EngelNorth East DerbyshireLab (minister)absent no
Michael FabricantLichfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael FallonSevenoaksCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)absent aye
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDem (front bench)absent aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)aye absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabaye aye
Caroline FlintDon ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)aye absent
Don FosterBathLDem (front bench)absent aye
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark FrancoisRayleighCon (front bench)absent aye
Christopher FraserSouth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)absent aye
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)aye absent
David GaukeSouth West HertfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDemabsent aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)aye aye
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Linda GilroyPlymouth, SuttonLab (minister)absent no
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabaye absent
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)absent aye
Robert GoodwillScarborough and WhitbyCon (front bench)absent aye
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)no absent
Chris GraylingEpsom and EwellCon (front bench)absent aye
Justine GreeningPutneyCon (front bench)absent aye
John GreenwayRyedaleConno absent
John GroganSelbyLab (minister)absent no
William HagueRichmond (Yorks)Con (front bench)absent aye
Peter HainNeathLab (minister)absent no
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)aye absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)aye absent
David HamiltonMidlothianLab (minister)absent no
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)no absent
Mark HarperForest of DeanCon (front bench)absent aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)absent aye
John HayesSouth Holland and The DeepingsCon (front bench)absent aye
David HeathSomerton and FromeLDem (front bench)absent aye
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)no absent
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabaye absent
Charles HendryWealdenCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen HepburnJarrowLab (minister)absent no
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)aye absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)aye absent
Mark HobanFarehamCon (front bench)absent aye
Sharon HodgsonGateshead East and Washington WestLab (minister)absent no
Kate HoeyVauxhallLabaye aye
Adam HollowayGraveshamCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)absent aye
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)aye absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)aye aye
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)no absent
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConabsent aye
David HowarthCambridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Gerald HowarthAldershotCon (front bench)absent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)aye absent
Simon HughesNorth Southwark and BermondseyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)absent aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)aye aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)absent aye
John HuttonBarrow and FurnessLab (minister)absent no
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLababsent aye
Stewart JacksonPeterboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)aye absent
David JonesClwyd WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)aye absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Alan KeenFeltham and HestonLab (minister)absent no
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)no absent
Greg KnightEast YorkshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Jim KnightSouth DorsetLab (minister)absent no
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)aye absent
Eleanor LaingEpping ForestCon (front bench)absent aye
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)absent aye
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)absent aye
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Edward LeighGainsboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)absent aye
Tim LoughtonEast Worthing and ShorehamCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)aye aye
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabaye absent
Fiona MactaggartSloughLab (minister)absent no
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)no absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)aye absent
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)aye aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLababsent aye
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Steve McCabeBirmingham, Hall GreenLab (minister)absent no
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLababsent aye
John McFallWest DunbartonshireLab (minister)absent no
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)aye aye
Patrick MercerNewarkConabsent aye
Alan MilburnDarlingtonLababsent no
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Anne MiltonGuildfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MitchellSutton ColdfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)aye absent
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no absent
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Brooks NewmarkBraintreeCon (front bench)absent aye
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)aye absent
Albert OwenYnys MônLab (minister)absent no
James PaiceSouth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)aye aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)no absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)absent aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)absent aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)aye absent
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLabaye absent
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)absent aye
John PughSouthportLDem (front bench)absent aye
James PurnellStalybridge and HydeLab (minister)absent no
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)aye absent
John RandallUxbridgeCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
John RedwoodWokinghamConabsent aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)aye aye
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLabaye absent
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaConabsent aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)aye aye
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
Hugh RobertsonFaversham and Mid KentCon (front bench)absent aye
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)aye absent
Geoffrey RobinsonCoventry North WestLababsent no
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Dan RogersonNorth CornwallLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)no absent
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Chris RuaneVale of ClwydLababsent no
Joan RyanEnfield NorthLab (minister)absent no
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)aye absent
Mohammad SarwarGlasgow CentralLab (minister)absent no
Grant ShappsWelwyn HatfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Siôn SimonBirmingham, ErdingtonLababsent no
Keith SimpsonMid NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew SlaughterEaling, Acton and Shepherd's BushLab (minister)absent no
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)absent aye
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)aye absent
Nicholas SoamesMid SussexCon (front bench)absent aye
John SpellarWarleyLababsent no
Caroline SpelmanMeridenCon (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Phyllis StarkeyMilton Keynes South WestLab (minister)absent no
Ian StewartEcclesLababsent no
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabaye absent
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)absent no
Gary StreeterSouth West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew StunellHazel GroveLDem (front bench)absent aye
Gerry SutcliffeBradford SouthLab (minister)absent no
Dari TaylorStockton SouthLab (minister)absent no
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)absent both
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemabsent aye
Sarah TeatherBrent EastLDem (front bench)absent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)aye absent
David TredinnickBosworthConabsent aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabaye aye
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)aye absent
Ed VaizeyWantageCon (front bench)absent aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)absent aye
Peter ViggersGosportCon (front bench)absent aye
Theresa VilliersChipping BarnetCon (front bench)absent aye
Ben WallaceLancaster and WyreCon (front bench)absent aye
Joan WalleyStoke-on-Trent NorthLab (minister)absent no
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labaye absent
Nigel WatersonEastbourneCon (front bench)absent aye
Tom WatsonWest Bromwich EastLab (minister)absent no
Steve WebbNorthavonLDemabsent aye
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
Bill WigginLeominsterCon (front bench)absent aye
Alan WilliamsSwansea WestLab (minister)absent no
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)absent aye
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)absent aye
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Stephen WilliamsBristol WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDem (front bench)absent aye
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDem (front bench)absent aye
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)no absent
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)absent aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)aye absent
Jeremy WrightRugby and KenilworthCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
George YoungNorth West HampshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 644 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 20 voted the same way, with 308 voting in opposite ways. There were 66 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 250 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
308
(308 + 20 + 0.2x250)
=
308
378
= 0.815 = 81.5 %.


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