Comparison of Divisions: Orders of the Day — The Economy and Pensions — 14 Nov 2007 at 18:45 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) : Orders of the Day — The Economy and Pensions - 14 Nov 2007 at 18:45 - Division No. 3

The Aye-voters failed to carry a motion introduced by Vincent Cable (Acting Leader of the Liberal Democrats) to add an amendment to the traditional address offered to thank the Queen for her speech at the Opening of Parliament.

This amendment would have expressed regret that the Queen’s speech did not announce proposals for a referendum on the United Kingdom’s continued membership of the European Union.

The House divided: Ayes 68, Noes 464.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Adam AfriyieWindsorCon (front bench)no aye
Peter AinsworthEast SurreyCon (front bench)no aye
Sir David AmessSouthend WestCon (front bench)no aye
James ArbuthnotNorth East HampshireCon (front bench)no aye
Peter AtkinsonHexhamCon (front bench)no aye
Richard BaconSouth NorfolkCon (front bench)no aye
Tony BaldryBanburyConno aye
Gregory BarkerBexhill and BattleCon (front bench)no aye
John BaronBillericayCon (front bench)no aye
Henry BellinghamNorth West NorfolkCon (front bench)no aye
Richard BenyonNewburyCon (front bench)no aye
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)no aye
Crispin BluntReigateCon (front bench)no aye
Graham BradyAltrincham and Sale WestCon (front bench)no aye
Julian BrazierCanterburyCon (front bench)no aye
James BrokenshireHornchurchCon (front bench)no aye
Angela BrowningTiverton and HonitonCon (front bench)no aye
David BurrowesEnfield, SouthgateCon (front bench)no aye
Alistair BurtNorth East BedfordshireCon (front bench)no aye
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)no aye
Greg ClarkTunbridge WellsCon (front bench)no aye
Geoffrey Clifton-BrownCotswoldCon (front bench)no aye
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)no aye
David DaviesMonmouthCon (front bench)no aye
Jonathan DjanoglyHuntingdonCon (front bench)no aye
Stephen DorrellCharnwoodCon (front bench)no aye
Nadine DorriesMid BedfordshireConno aye
James DuddridgeRochford and Southend EastCon (front bench)no aye
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)no aye
Iain Duncan SmithChingford and Woodford GreenConno aye
Philip DunneLudlowCon (front bench)no aye
Tobias EllwoodBournemouth EastCon (front bench)no aye
David EvennettBexleyheath and CrayfordCon (front bench)no aye
Michael FabricantLichfieldCon (front bench)no aye
Michael FallonSevenoaksCon (front bench)no aye
Mark FieldCities of London and WestminsterCon (front bench)no aye
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)no aye
Mark FrancoisRayleighCon (front bench)no aye
Christopher FraserSouth West NorfolkCon (front bench)no aye
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)no aye
Edward GarnierHarboroughCon (front bench)no aye
David GaukeSouth West HertfordshireCon (front bench)no aye
Nick GibbBognor Regis and LittlehamptonCon (front bench)no aye
Dame Cheryl GillanChesham and AmershamCon (front bench)no aye
Paul GoodmanWycombeCon (front bench)no aye
Michael GoveSurrey HeathCon (front bench)no aye
Chris GraylingEpsom and EwellCon (front bench)no aye
Damian GreenAshfordCon (front bench)no aye
Justine GreeningPutneyCon (front bench)no aye
Dominic GrieveBeaconsfieldCon (front bench)no aye
John GummerSuffolk CoastalConno aye
William HagueRichmond (Yorks)Con (front bench)no aye
Philip HammondRunnymede and WeybridgeCon (front bench)no aye
Stephen HammondWimbledonCon (front bench)no aye
Greg HandsHammersmith and FulhamCon (front bench)no aye
Mark HarperForest of DeanCon (front bench)no aye
Charles HendryWealdenCon (front bench)no aye
Nick HerbertArundel and South DownsCon (front bench)no aye
Mark HobanFarehamCon (front bench)no aye
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConno aye
Gerald HowarthAldershotCon (front bench)no aye
Nick HurdRuislip - NorthwoodCon (front bench)no aye
Stewart JacksonPeterboroughCon (front bench)no aye
David JonesClwyd WestCon (front bench)no aye
Daniel KawczynskiShrewsbury and AtchamCon (front bench)no aye
Robert KeySalisburyCon (front bench)no aye
Greg KnightEast YorkshireCon (front bench)no aye
Eleanor LaingEpping ForestCon (front bench)no aye
Jacqui LaitBeckenhamCon (front bench)no aye
Mark LancasterNorth East Milton KeynesCon (front bench)no aye
Andrew LansleySouth CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no aye
Oliver LetwinWest DorsetCon (front bench)no aye
Ian Liddell-GraingerBridgwaterCon (front bench)no aye
David LidingtonAylesburyCon (front bench)no aye
Peter LilleyHitchin and HarpendenConno aye
Tim LoughtonEast Worthing and ShorehamCon (front bench)no aye
Andrew MacKayBracknellCon (front bench)no aye
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)no aye
Theresa MayMaidenheadCon (front bench)no aye
Anne McIntoshVale of YorkCon (front bench)no aye
Patrick McLoughlinWest DerbyshireCon (front bench)no aye
Patrick MercerNewarkConno aye
Maria MillerBasingstokeCon (front bench)no aye
Anne MiltonGuildfordCon (front bench)no aye
Andrew MitchellSutton ColdfieldCon (front bench)no aye
Andrew MurrisonWestburyCon (front bench)no aye
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstCon (front bench)no aye
Brooks NewmarkBraintreeCon (front bench)no aye
Stephen O'BrienEddisburyCon (front bench)no aye
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)no aye
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)no aye
James PaiceSouth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no aye
Mike PenningHemel HempsteadCon (front bench)no aye
John PenroseWeston-Super-MareCon (front bench)no aye
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)no aye
Mark PriskHertford and StortfordCon (front bench)no aye
John RandallUxbridgeCon (front bench)no aye
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaConno aye
Andrew RobathanBlabyCon (front bench)no aye
Hugh RobertsonFaversham and Mid KentCon (front bench)no aye
Laurence RobertsonTewkesburyCon (front bench)no aye
Andrew RosindellRomfordCon (front bench)no aye
Lee ScottIlford NorthCon (front bench)no aye
Grant ShappsWelwyn HatfieldCon (front bench)no aye
Mark SimmondsBoston and SkegnessCon (front bench)no aye
Keith SimpsonMid NorfolkCon (front bench)no aye
Nicholas SoamesMid SussexCon (front bench)no aye
Caroline SpelmanMeridenCon (front bench)no aye
Michael SpicerWest WorcestershireCon (front bench)no aye
Richard SpringWest SuffolkCon (front bench)no aye
Anthony SteenTotnesCon (front bench)no aye
Gary StreeterSouth West DevonCon (front bench)no aye
Graham StuartBeverley and HoldernessCon (front bench)no aye
Desmond SwayneNew Forest WestCon (front bench)no aye
Robert SymsPooleCon (front bench)no aye
Ian TaylorEsher and WaltonConno aye
David TredinnickBosworthConno aye
Andrew TurnerIsle of WightConno aye
Andrew TyrieChichesterCon (front bench)no aye
Shailesh VaraNorth West CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no aye
Theresa VilliersChipping BarnetCon (front bench)no aye
Charles WalkerBroxbourneCon (front bench)no aye
Ben WallaceLancaster and WyreCon (front bench)no aye
Nigel WatersonEastbourneCon (front bench)no aye
Angela WatkinsonUpminsterCon (front bench)no aye
John WhittingdaleMaldon and East ChelmsfordCon (front bench)no aye
Bill WigginLeominsterCon (front bench)no aye
David WillettsHavantCon (front bench)no aye
Rob WilsonReading EastCon (front bench)no aye
Jeremy WrightRugby and KenilworthCon (front bench)no aye
George YoungNorth West HampshireCon (front bench)no aye
Tim BoswellDaventryConno absent
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)no absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)no absent
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)no absent
Derek ConwayOld Bexley and Sidcupwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)no absent
John GreenwayRyedaleConno absent
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)no absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)no absent
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)no absent
Boris JohnsonHenleyConno absent
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)no absent
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)no absent
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)no absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)no absent
Francis MaudeHorshamCon (front bench)no absent
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no absent
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)no absent
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)no absent
Michael AncramDevizesCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul BeresfordMole ValleyCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Simon BurnsWest ChelmsfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Bill CashStoneCon (front bench)absent aye
Christopher ChopeChristchurchCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Geoffrey CoxTorridge and West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen CrabbPreseli PembrokeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Robert GoodwillScarborough and WhitbyCon (front bench)absent aye
John HayesSouth Holland and The DeepingsCon (front bench)absent aye
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
Adam HollowayGraveshamCon (front bench)absent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Jeremy HuntSouth West SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
Bernard JenkinNorth EssexCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward LeighGainsboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Julian LewisNew Forest EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne MainSt AlbansCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark PritchardThe WrekinCon (front bench)absent aye
John RedwoodWokinghamConabsent aye
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew SelousSouth West BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Hugo SwireEast DevonConabsent aye
Peter TapsellLouth and HorncastleConabsent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Ed VaizeyWantageCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter ViggersGosportCon (front bench)absent aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdConabsent aye
Ann WintertonCongletonCon (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas WintertonMacclesfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
David SimpsonUpper BannDUP (front bench)aye absent
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentno aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabno aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)no aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)no aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)no aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)no aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabno aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabno aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLabno aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)no aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)no aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)no aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabno aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabno aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)no aye
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)no absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)no absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)no absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)no absent
Colin BurgonElmetLabno absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabno absent
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLabno absent
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)no absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabno absent
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)no absent
Jon CruddasDagenhamLab (minister)no absent
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLab (minister)no absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Gwyneth DunwoodyCrewe and NantwichLab (minister)no absent
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)no absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)no absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabno absent
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)no absent
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)no absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)no absent
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)no absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)no absent
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
Martin LintonBatterseaLabno absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabno absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabno absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
David MarshallGlasgow EastLab (minister)no absent
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabno absent
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)no absent
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabno absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)no absent
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)no absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)no absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)no absent
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLabno absent
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)no absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)no absent
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLabno absent
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)no absent
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)no absent
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)no absent
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLab (minister)no absent
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)no absent
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)no absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLababsent aye
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLababsent aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLababsent aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Ann ClwydCynon ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Mary CreaghWakefieldLab (minister)absent no
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Tessa JowellDulwich and West NorwoodLab (minister)absent no
Jim KnightSouth DorsetLab (minister)absent no
David LammyTottenhamLab (minister)absent no
Shahid MalikDewsburyLab (minister)absent no
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLababsent no
John McFallWest DunbartonshireLab (minister)absent no
Alun MichaelCardiff South and PenarthLab (minister)absent no
Margaret MoranLuton SouthLab (minister)absent no
Jim MurphyEast RenfrewshireLab (minister)absent no
Ken PurchaseWolverhampton North EastLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Joan RyanEnfield NorthLab (minister)absent no
Ian StewartEcclesLab (minister)absent no
Mark TamiAlyn and DeesideLab (minister)absent no
Joan WalleyStoke-on-Trent NorthLab (minister)absent no
Phil WoolasOldham East and SaddleworthLab (minister)absent no
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)absent both
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)aye absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)aye absent
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)aye absent
Mark OatenWinchesterLDemaye absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)aye absent
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Simon HughesNorth Southwark and BermondseyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Bob RussellColchesterLDem (front bench)absent aye
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)no aye
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)absent aye
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)no aye
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)no aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)no aye
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)no absent
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)no absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 285 voted the same way, with 159 voting in opposite ways. There were 43 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 159 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
285
(285 + 159 + 0.2x159)
=
285
475.8
= 0.599 = 59.9 %.


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