Comparison of Divisions: Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill — Change abortion limit from 24 weeks to 20 weeks — rejected — 20 May 2008 at 22:00 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) : Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill — Change abortion limit from 24 weeks to 20 weeks — rejected - 20 May 2008 at 22:00 - Division No. 201

The majority of MPs voted against adding an new paragraph to the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill to change the time limit for the legal termination of pregnancy from 24 weeks to 20 weeks.[1]

A preceding attempt to change the limit to 16 weeks had also failed.[2]

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by constituency

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLabaye absent
Gerald HowarthAldershotCon (front bench)absent aye
Graham BradyAltrincham and Sale WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)no tellaye
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)no absent
Tony BaldryBanburyConno aye
Alex SalmondBanff and BuchanSNP (front bench)aye absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)no absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)no absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)no absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
Don FosterBathLDem (front bench)no aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabno aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)no absent
Jacqui LaitBeckenhamCon (front bench)no aye
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)absent aye
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)no aye
John BaronBillericayCon (front bench)no aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)aye absent
Steve McCabeBirmingham, Hall GreenLab (minister)absent no
Clare ShortBirmingham, Ladywoodwhilst Independent Labourno absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)no absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabno absent
John HemmingBirmingham, YardleyLDem (front bench)no aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentno aye
David AndersonBlaydonLab (minister)absent no
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLabaye absent
Nick GibbBognor Regis and LittlehamptonCon (front bench)absent aye
David CrausbyBolton North EastLab (minister)aye no
Ruth KellyBolton WestLab (minister)aye no
Joe BentonBootleLab (minister)aye no
Mark SimmondsBoston and SkegnessCon (front bench)no aye
David TredinnickBosworthConno aye
Andrew MacKayBracknellCon (front bench)no aye
Terry RooneyBradford NorthLab (minister)absent no
Gerry SutcliffeBradford SouthLab (minister)absent no
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)no absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Barry GardinerBrent NorthLab (minister)absent no
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Stephen WilliamsBristol WestLDem (front bench)no aye
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)no absent
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)no aye
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)absent aye
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)no aye
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)no aye
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabno absent
David HowarthCambridgeLDem (front bench)no aye
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDem (front bench)no aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Alun MichaelCardiff South and PenarthLab (minister)absent no
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)absent aye
Nick AingerCarmarthen West and South PembrokeshireLab (minister)absent no
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)no aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)no aye
Stephen DorrellCharnwoodCon (front bench)no aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)no aye
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDem (front bench)no aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)no aye
Andrew TyrieChichesterCon (front bench)no aye
Theresa VilliersChipping BarnetCon (front bench)no aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)aye absent
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLababsent aye
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
Tom ClarkeCoatbridge, Chryston and BellshillLab (minister)aye no
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Ann WintertonCongletonCon (front bench)absent aye
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)no absent
Geoffrey Clifton-BrownCotswoldCon (front bench)no aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLab (minister)aye absent
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Rosemary McKennaCumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch EastLab (minister)absent no
Ann ClwydCynon ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabno absent
Andrew GwynneDenton and ReddishLab (minister)absent no
Bob LaxtonDerby NorthLab (minister)absent no
Shahid MalikDewsburyLab (minister)aye no
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)no absent
Ian AustinDudley NorthLab (minister)absent no
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)aye absent
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)no absent
Jim McGovernDundee WestLab (minister)aye no
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDem (front bench)no aye
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLab (minister)absent no
John CummingsEasingtonLab (minister)aye no
Hugo SwireEast DevonConno aye
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Michael MatesEast HampshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)no absent
Jim MurphyEast RenfrewshireLab (minister)absent no
Tim LoughtonEast Worthing and ShorehamCon (front bench)absent aye
Greg KnightEast YorkshireCon (front bench)no aye
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)no aye
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLab (minister)no absent
John BarrettEdinburgh WestLDem (front bench)no aye
Colin BurgonElmetLabno absent
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)no absent
Ian TaylorEsher and WaltonConabsent aye
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)no aye
Alan KeenFeltham and HestonLab (minister)absent no
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabno absent
Mark DurkanFoyleSDLP (front bench)aye absent
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)aye absent
Mohammad SarwarGlasgow CentralLab (minister)absent no
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)no absent
Tom HarrisGlasgow SouthLab (minister)aye no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)no aye
Peter ViggersGosportCon (front bench)no aye
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)no absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabno aye
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)aye absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)no aye
Derek TwiggHaltonLab (minister)aye no
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabno aye
Edward GarnierHarboroughCon (front bench)no aye
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)no absent
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDem (front bench)no aye
Michael Jabez FosterHastings and RyeLab (minister)aye no
David WillettsHavantCon (front bench)absent aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabno aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)no absent
Mark PriskHertford and StortfordCon (front bench)absent aye
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)aye absent
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDemno aye
Francis MaudeHorshamCon (front bench)aye absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)aye absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)no absent
David CairnsInverclydeLab (minister)absent no
Danny AlexanderInverness, Nairn, Badenoch and StrathspeyLDemno aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabno aye
Don TouhigIslwynLab (minister)aye no
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaConno aye
Des BrowneKilmarnock and LoudounLab (minister)aye no
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)no aye
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLabno absent
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)no absent
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
Ben WallaceLancaster and WyreCon (front bench)absent aye
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)no absent
George MudieLeeds EastLab (minister)absent no
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)no absent
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)aye absent
Bill WigginLeominsterCon (front bench)no aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)aye absent
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Michael FabricantLichfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabaye absent
Jane KennedyLiverpool, WavertreeLab (minister)absent no
Peter TapsellLouth and HorncastleConabsent aye
Philip DunneLudlowCon (front bench)no aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Nicholas WintertonMacclesfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLababsent no
John WhittingdaleMaldon and East ChelmsfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Graham StringerManchester, BlackleyLab (minister)absent no
Gerald KaufmanManchester, GortonLab (minister)absent no
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)no aye
Alan MealeMansfieldLabno absent
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLababsent aye
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)no aye
Annette BrookeMid Dorset and North PooleLDem (front bench)no aye
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)aye no
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)no absent
Siobhain McDonaghMitcham and MordenLab (minister)absent no
Paul BeresfordMole ValleyCon (front bench)no aye
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)no aye
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLab (minister)aye no
Frank RoyMotherwell and WishawLab (minister)aye no
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)aye absent
Patrick MercerNewarkCon (front bench)no aye
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabno absent
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)absent aye
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)no absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)no aye
Robert WalterNorth DorsetConaye absent
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)no aye
James ArbuthnotNorth East HampshireCon (front bench)no aye
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Mark LancasterNorth East Milton KeynesCon (front bench)absent aye
Bernard JenkinNorth EssexCon (front bench)absent aye
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)no aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabno absent
Mike O'BrienNorth WarwickshireLab (minister)absent no
George YoungNorth West HampshireCon (front bench)no aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)tellaye both
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)aye absent
Steve WebbNorthavonLDem (front bench)no aye
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)no absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabno absent
John HeppellNottingham EastLab (minister)absent no
Graham AllenNottingham NorthLababsent no
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabno aye
Bill OlnerNuneatonLab (minister)absent no
Huw Irranca-DaviesOgmoreLab (minister)aye no
Derek ConwayOld Bexley and Sidcupwhilst Independent (front bench)aye absent
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabno absent
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)no absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)no aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)no aye
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)no absent
Mark HendrickPrestonLab (minister)absent no
Paul TruswellPudseyLabno aye
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)no absent
Vera BairdRedcarLab (minister)absent no
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
Crispin BluntReigateCon (front bench)no aye
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConaye absent
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDem (front bench)no aye
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)aye absent
James DuddridgeRochford and Southend EastCon (front bench)no aye
Andrew RosindellRomfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)no absent
Janet AndersonRossendale and DarwenLab (minister)absent no
Nick HurdRuislip - NorthwoodCon (front bench)no aye
Thomas McAvoyRutherglen and Hamilton WestLab (minister)aye no
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)absent aye
Robert KeySalisburyCon (front bench)no aye
Elliot MorleyScunthorpeLababsent no
John GroganSelbyLab (minister)aye no
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLabno absent
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)no aye
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)no absent
Philip DaviesShipleyConabsent aye
Derek WyattSittingbourne and SheppeyLab (minister)absent no
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)no aye
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConno aye
Lorely BurtSolihullLDem (front bench)no aye
David HeathSomerton and FromeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Andrew LansleySouth CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Eddie McGradySouth DownSDLPaye absent
David BorrowSouth RibbleLab (minister)aye no
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)no absent
Christopher FraserSouth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Dave WattsSt Helens NorthLab (minister)absent tellno
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDem (front bench)no aye
Charlotte AtkinsStaffordshire MoorlandsLab (minister)absent no
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno aye
Rob FlelloStoke-on-Trent SouthLab (minister)absent no
Iris RobinsonStrangfordDUPaye absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)no absent
David DrewStroudLab (minister)aye no
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabno absent
Michael GoveSurrey HeathCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)no aye
Andrew MitchellSutton ColdfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)no aye
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)absent aye
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)no absent
Adrian SandersTorbayLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paul MurphyTorfaenLab (minister)aye no
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemno aye
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
David SimpsonUpper BannDUP (front bench)aye absent
Chris RuaneVale of ClwydLab (minister)aye no
John SmithVale of GlamorganLab (minister)absent no
Anne McIntoshVale of YorkCon (front bench)no aye
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)no aye
Bruce GeorgeWalsall SouthLababsent no
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Helen JonesWarrington NorthLab (minister)aye no
Claire WardWatfordLab (minister)aye tellno
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)no absent
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)no aye
Tom WatsonWest Bromwich EastLab (minister)absent no
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
John McFallWest DunbartonshireLab (minister)aye no
Rosie CooperWest LancashireLab (minister)absent no
Michael SpicerWest WorcestershireCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)absent aye
John PenroseWeston-Super-MareCon (front bench)no aye
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)no absent
Adam AfriyieWindsorCon (front bench)absent aye
Ben ChapmanWirral SouthLab (minister)absent no
Stephen HesfordWirral WestLab (minister)absent no
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)aye absent
Tony CunninghamWorkingtonLab (minister)aye no
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)no aye
Paul GogginsWythenshawe and Sale EastLab (minister)aye no
Albert OwenYnys MônLab (minister)aye no

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 645 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 308 voted the same way, with 120 voting in opposite ways. There were 37 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 180 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
308
(308 + 120 + 0.2x180)
=
308
464
= 0.664 = 66.4 %.


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