Comparison of Divisions: Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill Third Reading — 22 Oct 2008 at 18:59 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) : Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill Third Reading - 22 Oct 2008 at 18:59 - Division No. 288

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read the Third time.

It has been a long journey to Third Reading, but a shared one, involving two years of scrutiny and discussion.

Question put, That the Bill be now read the Third time:-

The House divided: Ayes 355, Noes 129.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Adam AfriyieWindsorCon (front bench)aye aye
Peter AtkinsonHexhamCon (front bench)aye aye
Tony BaldryBanburyConaye aye
John BaronBillericayCon (front bench)aye aye
Henry BellinghamNorth West NorfolkCon (front bench)aye aye
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)aye aye
Paul BeresfordMole ValleyCon (front bench)aye aye
Crispin BluntReigateCon (front bench)aye aye
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)aye aye
Douglas CarswellHarwichCon (front bench)aye aye
Greg ClarkTunbridge WellsCon (front bench)aye aye
Geoffrey Clifton-BrownCotswoldCon (front bench)aye aye
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)aye aye
Jonathan DjanoglyHuntingdonCon (front bench)aye aye
Stephen DorrellCharnwoodCon (front bench)aye aye
Philip DunneLudlowCon (front bench)aye aye
Michael FabricantLichfieldCon (front bench)aye aye
Edward GarnierHarboroughCon (front bench)aye aye
Justine GreeningPutneyCon (front bench)aye aye
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConaye aye
Jeremy HuntSouth West SurreyCon (front bench)aye aye
Bernard JenkinNorth EssexCon (front bench)aye aye
Robert KeySalisburyCon (front bench)aye aye
Jacqui LaitBeckenhamCon (front bench)aye aye
Andrew LansleySouth CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye aye
Oliver LetwinWest DorsetCon (front bench)aye aye
Andrew MacKayBracknellCon (front bench)aye aye
Andrew MitchellSutton ColdfieldCon (front bench)aye aye
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)aye aye
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)aye aye
John PenroseWeston-Super-MareCon (front bench)aye aye
Mark PriskHertford and StortfordCon (front bench)aye aye
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaConaye aye
Grant ShappsWelwyn HatfieldCon (front bench)aye aye
Mark SimmondsBoston and SkegnessCon (front bench)aye aye
Graham StuartBeverley and HoldernessCon (front bench)aye aye
Ian TaylorEsher and WaltonConaye aye
Andrew TyrieChichesterCon (front bench)aye aye
Shailesh VaraNorth West CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye aye
Theresa VilliersChipping BarnetCon (front bench)aye aye
George YoungNorth West HampshireCon (front bench)aye aye
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)aye absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)aye absent
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)aye absent
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)aye absent
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)aye absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)aye absent
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)aye absent
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)no absent
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenConno absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConno absent
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)no absent
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)no absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)no absent
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)no absent
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no absent
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)no absent
Robert WalterNorth DorsetConno absent
Peter AinsworthEast SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
James ArbuthnotNorth East HampshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Gregory BarkerBexhill and BattleCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Angela BrowningTiverton and HonitonCon (front bench)absent aye
Christopher ChopeChristchurchCon (front bench)absent aye
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)absent aye
Iain Duncan SmithChingford and Woodford GreenConabsent aye
Tobias EllwoodBournemouth EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael FallonSevenoaksCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark FieldCities of London and WestminsterCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark FrancoisRayleighCon (front bench)absent aye
Christopher FraserSouth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)absent aye
David GaukeSouth West HertfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick GibbBognor Regis and LittlehamptonCon (front bench)absent aye
Robert GoodwillScarborough and WhitbyCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael GoveSurrey HeathCon (front bench)absent aye
Chris GraylingEpsom and EwellCon (front bench)absent aye
Dominic GrieveBeaconsfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
William HagueRichmond (Yorks)Con (front bench)absent aye
Philip HammondRunnymede and WeybridgeCon (front bench)absent aye
Charles HendryWealdenCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick HerbertArundel and South DownsCon (front bench)absent aye
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
Greg KnightEast YorkshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Eleanor LaingEpping ForestCon (front bench)absent aye
Julian LewisNew Forest EastCon (front bench)absent aye
David LidingtonAylesburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne McIntoshVale of YorkCon (front bench)absent aye
Maria MillerBasingstokeCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MurrisonWestburyCon (front bench)absent aye
James PaiceSouth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)absent aye
John RedwoodWokinghamConabsent aye
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)absent aye
Keith SimpsonMid NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas SoamesMid SussexCon (front bench)absent aye
Caroline SpelmanMeridenCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael SpicerWest WorcestershireCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard SpringWest SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Anthony SteenTotnesCon (front bench)absent aye
Gary StreeterSouth West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Hugo SwireEast DevonConabsent aye
David TredinnickBosworthConabsent aye
Ed VaizeyWantageCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter ViggersGosportCon (front bench)absent aye
John WhittingdaleMaldon and East ChelmsfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Bill WigginLeominsterCon (front bench)absent aye
David WillettsHavantCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian PaisleyNorth AntrimDUPno absent
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)aye aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)aye aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Clare ShortBirmingham, Ladywoodwhilst Independent Labouraye absent
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabaye aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)aye aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)aye aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabaye aye
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabaye aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)aye aye
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)aye aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)aye aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabaye aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabaye aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabaye aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLabaye aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)aye aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)aye aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabaye aye
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)aye absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Colin BurgonElmetLabaye absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabaye absent
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLabaye absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)aye absent
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)aye absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabaye absent
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)aye absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)aye absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)aye absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)aye absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)aye absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)aye absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)aye absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabaye absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)aye absent
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)aye absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabaye absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)aye absent
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabaye absent
Anne McGuireStirlingLabaye absent
Alan MealeMansfieldLabaye absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)aye absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)aye absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLabaye absent
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)aye absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)aye absent
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLabaye absent
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)aye absent
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)aye absent
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLabaye absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)aye absent
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)aye absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabaye absent
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)aye absent
Joe BentonBootleLab (minister)no no
Tom ClarkeCoatbridge, Chryston and BellshillLab (minister)no no
John CummingsEasingtonLab (minister)no no
David DrewStroudLab (minister)no no
Rob FlelloStoke-on-Trent SouthLab (minister)no no
Ruth KellyBolton WestLabno no
Rosemary McKennaCumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch EastLab (minister)no no
Denis MurphyWansbeckLab (minister)no no
Albert OwenYnys MônLab (minister)no no
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)no absent
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)absent aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLababsent aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)absent aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLababsent aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)absent aye
Vera BairdRedcarLab (minister)absent no
Gordon BanksOchil and South PerthshireLab (minister)absent no
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
Roberta Blackman-WoodsCity of DurhamLab (minister)absent no
Ben ChapmanWirral SouthLab (minister)absent no
David CrausbyBolton North EastLab (minister)absent no
Ann CryerKeighleyLab (minister)absent no
Linda GilroyPlymouth, SuttonLab (minister)absent no
John GroganSelbyLab (minister)absent no
Harriet HarmanCamberwell and PeckhamLab (minister)absent no
Tom HarrisGlasgow SouthLababsent no
Phil HopeCorbyLab (minister)absent no
John HuttonBarrow and FurnessLab (minister)absent no
Brian IddonBolton South EastLab (minister)absent no
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLababsent no
Gerald KaufmanManchester, GortonLab (minister)absent no
Tom LevittHigh PeakLab (minister)absent no
Sarah McCarthy-FryPortsmouth NorthLab (minister)absent no
Siobhain McDonaghMitcham and MordenLababsent no
John McFallWest DunbartonshireLab (minister)absent no
Jim McGovernDundee WestLab (minister)absent no
Madeleine MoonBridgendLab (minister)absent no
Jessica MordenNewport EastLab (minister)absent no
George MudieLeeds EastLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Christine RussellCity of ChesterLab (minister)absent no
Mohammad SarwarGlasgow CentralLab (minister)absent no
Alison SeabeckPlymouth, DevonportLababsent no
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLab (minister)absent no
Peter SoulsbyLeicester SouthLab (minister)absent no
Ian StewartEcclesLab (minister)absent no
Desmond TurnerBrighton, KemptownLab (minister)absent no
John BarrettEdinburgh WestLDem (front bench)aye aye
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Lorely BurtSolihullLDem (front bench)aye aye
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)aye aye
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDem (front bench)aye aye
Don FosterBathLDem (front bench)aye aye
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDem (front bench)aye aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)aye aye
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDem (front bench)aye aye
David HowarthCambridgeLDem (front bench)aye aye
Simon HughesNorth Southwark and BermondseyLDem (front bench)aye aye
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)aye aye
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDem (front bench)aye aye
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)aye aye
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)aye aye
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDem (front bench)aye aye
Adrian SandersTorbayLDem (front bench)aye aye
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)aye aye
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemaye aye
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)aye aye
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDem (front bench)aye aye
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)aye absent
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)aye absent
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)no absent
Charles KennedyRoss, Skye and LochaberLDemno absent
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)no absent
Danny AlexanderInverness, Nairn, Badenoch and StrathspeyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Norman BakerLewesLDem (front bench)absent aye
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)absent aye
Annette BrookeMid Dorset and North PooleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)absent aye
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)absent aye
Stephen WilliamsBristol WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDem (front bench)absent aye
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)aye aye
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)aye aye
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)absent aye
Mark DurkanFoyleSDLP (front bench)no absent
Eddie McGradySouth DownSDLPno absent
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)aye aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)aye aye
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)no absent
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)no absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst UKIP (front bench)aye absent
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 645 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 102 voted the same way, with 305 voting in opposite ways. There were 50 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 188 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
305
(305 + 102 + 0.2x188)
=
305
444.6
= 0.686 = 68.6 %.


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